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On February 23 2009 13:45 -_- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2009 13:35 Louder wrote:On February 23 2009 13:34 -_- wrote:
So, why could someone explain why anyone should listen to rek about becoming a succesful sc player?
That's not a dig, but if I'm going to trust someone about top-level sc play (which my "omg, i once hit b- on pgt by matchup and match whoring) ass can't understand, I've been around long enough to know reks not the man. Perspective counts for something. Rekrul at least knows (and knew) his place. You don't have to be a top pro gamer to make the observations he made in this post, you just have to have a functioning head on your shoulders. Arrogance can be healthy. It can protect you when you're vulnerable. Is it the best way to approach pro sc? I don't know. But it's not obviously the wrong mindset to have.
Arrogance to the point your behavior is on par with someone who is functionally retarded IS obviously the wrong mindset. I'm not saying arrogance is absolutely bad, but in this case (Idra) it objectively is.
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this is epic. rofl.
and i think the thing about the topic being foreigners is they both still suck and no1 cares about them in the actual world of the best star players (i think this was said somewhere in the article). gg.
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On February 23 2009 13:52 Licmyobelisk wrote:
So, who's more of the asshole? FBH that sent an a letter to savior that he wants to befriend him then after a match which he rapes saviors dances around him again... or IdrA who likes doesn't type gg and still makes excuses/trashtalks opponents even though he knew that he was raped?
FBH is 8-2 against Savior.
Idra is 2-5 against F91.
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On February 23 2009 11:57 Avidkeystamper wrote:
I thought this was about the Europe vs Korean match. gg
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IMO, the Flamers have barely any reason to flame.
i would LOVE to get an actual progamer to comment on the games.
i am 90 percent sure, that progamer's comments will debunk all of the flamers.
idra did not do as badly as some of you say seriously....
his builds were good, and its a standard build. it doesnt matter if its predictable, standard play can counter everything with scouting.
since f91 went lurks a lot of the time, idra had to realy save up on scans, meaning he had to rely on scv for scouting info. f91 denied many of these attempts to scout, keeping idra in the dark for a lot of the time. this puts terran back A LOT.
he is a terran player, and sometimes, it is just really difficult to accept that you lost esp with terran. its very hard to find mistakes you made esp since idra's micro and macro are good enough for that not to be a major problem.
in the raid assault game, i almost thought F91 was maphacking... f91 got really lucky that game with the "no reason" sunkens.
idra clearly shows improvement in all aspects of play, but f91's anti-metagame style prevented us from seeing it blossom. we should support idra since he is a foreigner that is playing in korea. he represents us, and he has the skills to do it.
he really only needs a tiny more exp against these weird "against reason" builds until he can become a player capable of killing off zergs like f91.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On February 23 2009 13:45 -_- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2009 13:35 Louder wrote:On February 23 2009 13:34 -_- wrote:
So, why could someone explain why anyone should listen to rek about becoming a succesful sc player?
That's not a dig, but if I'm going to trust someone about top-level sc play (which my "omg, i once hit b- on pgt by matchup and match whoring) ass can't understand, I've been around long enough to know reks not the man. Perspective counts for something. Rekrul at least knows (and knew) his place. You don't have to be a top pro gamer to make the observations he made in this post, you just have to have a functioning head on your shoulders. Arrogance can be healthy. It can protect you when you're vulnerable. Is it the best way to approach pro sc? I don't know. But it's not obviously the wrong mindset to have.
That bolded line right there explains exactly why confidence stems from humility and arrogance stems from insecurity. If you're not an arrogant fuck you'll never be in a situation where you're "vulnerable."
Yes, it is the wrong mindset to have, as demonstrated by Draco (who was way better than nony and WAYYY better than Idra) having problems with the other team members and leaving korea because he felt unwelcomed.
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On February 23 2009 13:32 Louder wrote:"This post is proof that even a human toilet like Rekrul occasionally has something worthwhile to contribute  " " If you can't lose with Terran without being a cunt, play the "easy race" and shut the fuck up."
HAHAHAHAHAH
One of those is going to be my new sig ... and I'm just not sure which one lol.
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thedeadhaji
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On February 23 2009 13:46 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2009 13:33 Manifesto7 wrote:On February 23 2009 13:28 InfeSteD wrote:
I Think even Mike Tyson after trash talking would say something manner after losing a fight!
Actually usually Iron Mike talked about eating another boxer's babies. Here is what I was thinking of: "Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you man. My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!"
he switches from referring to Lewis as "you" to "he"
Iron mike needs a grammar lesson imo
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JIJIyO
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Not to bash or anything, but didn't people give Nony huge amounts of shit for not gging? Or just gging when he feels like it's a good thing. I remember a whole thread dedicated to this. Then when he goes to Korea people love him. I remember some comments like "HAHAHA BM TOSS FORGOT TO RESEARCH STORM FOR STORM DROP SAY GG TO THAT". What was with the sudden change in support? Was it really the Korea thing?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
Louder why am I a human toilet? I don't take shit I usually give it.
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i think the problem with idra is that he thinks he knows how everything works and when it doesnt he thinks it was suppose to happen "this way" and he could "win this way". he doesnt learn from his mistake and probably will focus on beating the "way" it was suppose to go. i have nothing against him but comments like this "god DAMNIT fuck 2 hat muta win or lose such fucking awful games" in jaedong vs flash in the msl group F, makes me wonder if hes not thinking any deeper into the game. 2 hatch muta isnt win or lose imo. i was cheering for him to beat F91 since he is the only foreigner in korea representing us or maybe toad lmao. but yea ill still cheer him on. he makes himself nervous by saying he will win and add more pressure to himself. IDRA JUST GO WITH THE MINDSET OF "OK LETS DO EVERYTHING RIGHT AND TRY TO MAKE FEW MISTAKES" that way u wont feel like shit when losing and gave it your best. congradulation f91. and nice write up rek haha
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
On February 23 2009 14:08 Rekrul wrote:
Louder why am I a human toilet? I don't take shit I usually give it.
Wow...........that is such a great quote.........I don't even know how to react. Seriously.
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Yeah it was mainly polish players (draco fans) that were flaming nony. At least thats what I remember.
At the time it seemed most people liked him though. Then the polish people liked him because he is at least part polish and was going to korea.
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On February 23 2009 13:21 NoobsOfWrath wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2009 12:56 Xeris wrote:
Good post, but you retards saying "IdrA shouldn't be in Korea" need to stfu ... that's not what this post is about. If you think that it's 100% idra bashing and think this post is trying to totally demean him and say he's a newb that shouldn't be in Korea you're fucking retarded.
He pointed out IdrA's flaws and faults in a mean, but funny way, but even so, he needs to be respected because hes REALLY GOOD at Starcraft ... he just isn't as good as he could be yet No, he doesn't NEED to be respected because he's good at SC. Maybe for you that's all it takes. I don't respect a dickhead asshole just because he's good at something.
this
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On February 23 2009 14:08 Rekrul wrote:
Louder why am I a human toilet? I don't take shit I usually give it.
Can I put my fluids in you.
I know you can afford to come up to sac and play some 100-300 nl with me and then spend the night making love ... yes?
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"He played bad, so I lost" is among the lamest excuses ever and only a bm asshole like Idra would use it.
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the quotes seem copy and pasted -- where did Idra post these things? email?
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On February 23 2009 14:04 ramen247 wrote:
IMO, the Flamers have barely any reason to flame.
i would LOVE to get an actual progamer to comment on the games.
You do have one progamer's comment. Idra's own.
If you do not understand why he lost after reading his comments, then you don't understand about playing competitve games(SC or anything else).
Idra is the better mechanical player. He knows the best BOs. He knows how to counter the best ZvT build orders. He knows the map inside out.
So why did he lost?
Because he only knows the answers, but not the reasoning behind it. For example, he knows that 2-hatch is better than 3-hatch on RA2. But he doesn't know how a terran should punish the zerg for going with the less-than-best 3-hatch. This is why Idra is a B-teamer.
If you read the translations of S-class progamers, you'd find that they KNOW the game. They understand the concepts inside and out, and know how to deal with just about every situation.
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Baa?21248 Posts
On February 23 2009 14:08 Rekrul wrote:
I don't take shit I usually give it.
So you're a clogged up toilet?
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On February 23 2009 12:24 SonuvBob wrote:
lmao nice pic. it sums it all up
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