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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 23 2009 04:37 GMT
#141
On February 23 2009 12:51 YPang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2009 12:47 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
On February 23 2009 12:46 YPang wrote:
On February 23 2009 12:41 Rekrul wrote:
Alright Superiorwolf we get it stop fucking spamming the thread with flame.


THis is soooo ironic... but im sure superior wolf can do 100% better than idra in korea.......


These posts are so fuckin stupid. It has nothing at all to do with being able to do better than Idra in Korea.


meh... u people who can't detect sarcasm ruin the fun.....

he wasnt missing the sarcasm, he was attacking the basis
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Swarmy
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada70 Posts
February 23 2009 04:37 GMT
#142
I finally realize why I keep losing on ICCUP! It's because all my opponents are retards! Their inferior build orders and pathetic game sense make them impossible to beat. If they were better I would be A+ by now.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
February 23 2009 04:40 GMT
#143
On February 23 2009 13:37 Swarmy wrote:
I finally realize why I keep losing on ICCUP! It's because all my opponents are retards! Their inferior build orders and pathetic game sense make them impossible to beat. If they were better I would be A+ by now.



Golden.

I'll start having this mindset as well.
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
February 23 2009 04:40 GMT
#144
I am wondering Idra sucks in terms of mechanics or game sense, or both

He repeatedly mentioned the F91 builds that suck, I really think he was just too predictable and not flexible countering to them. It is understandable to have your feeling hurt when you lose that way, in particular when you have looked at him like underdog before the match.

But seriously, I dont think his mechanics is better than F91, there were many mistakes in his micro, esp MnM micro, got flanked easily and his tank micro as well, remembering the only tank seiged within the sunken range is just painful.
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
February 23 2009 04:42 GMT
#145
To be honest, the game on Chupung was close.
IdrA just was off with the positioning of tanks and a big mistake was one of his bunkers only had one marine inside, while the other bunker he unloaded and stimmed but lost 2 marines in the process. He ran 3 more marines over to get them inside and lost even more marines. It would be interesting to see how the game would have turned out if he had barely defended.
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huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
February 23 2009 04:42 GMT
#146
On February 23 2009 13:37 Swarmy wrote:
I finally realize why I keep losing on ICCUP! It's because all my opponents are retards! Their inferior build orders and pathetic game sense make them impossible to beat. If they were better I would be A+ by now.


So many shitty poker players actually think like this, I swear it's the only reason that online poker is still profitable.
skating
Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
February 23 2009 04:43 GMT
#147
Rekrul is easily the best poster on TL.
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
February 23 2009 04:45 GMT
#148
What thread did all these idra quotes in the OP come from?
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
February 23 2009 04:45 GMT
#149
On February 23 2009 13:35 Louder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2009 13:34 -_- wrote:
So, why could someone explain why anyone should listen to rek about becoming a succesful sc player?

That's not a dig, but if I'm going to trust someone about top-level sc play (which my "omg, i once hit b- on pgt by matchup and match whoring) ass can't understand, I've been around long enough to know reks not the man.


Perspective counts for something. Rekrul at least knows (and knew) his place. You don't have to be a top pro gamer to make the observations he made in this post, you just have to have a functioning head on your shoulders.


Arrogance can be healthy. It can protect you when you're vulnerable. Is it the best way to approach pro sc? I don't know. But it's not obviously the wrong mindset to have.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27178 Posts
February 23 2009 04:46 GMT
#150
On February 23 2009 13:33 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2009 13:28 InfeSteD wrote:
I Think even Mike Tyson after trash talking would say something manner after losing a fight!

Actually usually Iron Mike talked about eating another boxer's babies.


Here is what I was thinking of:
"Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you man. My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!"

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Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
February 23 2009 04:46 GMT
#151
On February 23 2009 13:37 Swarmy wrote:
I finally realize why I keep losing on ICCUP! It's because all my opponents are retards! Their inferior build orders and pathetic game sense make them impossible to beat. If they were better I would be A+ by now.


omg it's so true
thats why it's impossible for me to get past D...
Retarded opponents..
Who the fuck goes 1 base biomech with mass valks and doesn't attack for 7 minutes??


+ Show Spoiler +
How the fuck did i lose that game??


T.T
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Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
February 23 2009 04:46 GMT
#152
damn this was so worth reading this man!
your points are so damn true and everything
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
February 23 2009 04:46 GMT
#153
On February 23 2009 13:30 baubo wrote:
This reminds me of my high school days playing chess. When I was learning the game, my local chess club head guy(rating of 1800ish) kept making it clear to me that it's not important to mindlessly memorize all the different openings, but KNOWING the concept behind it and why they're optimal.

It's pretty stupid to BLAME opponent plays less than optimally. That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard in my life. If you're truly a progamer, you should be able to PUNISH less-than-optimal openings and plays. Not sitting there without a clue because he does a stupid build and you don't know the counter.


This. I couldn't have put it better in words.

If the opponent is doing something non-optimal, a standard build with little tweaks should give you the edge. Even if you as a progamer would consider it nonoptimal play.

Still, in a lot of games he really didn't make big mistakes.
Game 1 - little mismicro/mispositioning with that first group of mmf. He could have won that battle against the lings, if he would have pulled his group behind those minerals or something. Mid risk//low-mid reward move.

Game 2 - well, his defense should have blocked that lurker attack. Even I didn't get why it didn't work, yeah his tanks were too forward and one more bunker could have done it..

etc etc.

And all is illuminated.
Creationism
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
China505 Posts
February 23 2009 04:49 GMT
#154
if u think that starcraft is the obviously the most important thing in life, then you are a fucktard and shouldn't be alive. what is important? fucking character, which idra showed a complete lack of. i think he shouldn't be in korea taking a chance as a progamer not because hes bad at starcraft, but because he has no fucking character or a set of balls for that matter.
this is so fucking low im actually disgusted with him as a person. i dont care if he goes on to win an osl, hes still a fucking loserly fuck bag. learn to be a man fucktard. no fucking character... fucking loser.
The hoi polloi is the plague upon the world.
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
February 23 2009 04:50 GMT
#155
On February 23 2009 13:32 Louder wrote:
This post is proof that even a human toilet like Rekrul occasionally has something worthwhile to contribute

I voted Idra would lose 1-6 so going 2-5 actually bumped my estimation of his skill a bit. And really, the excuse making is no surprise either. Idra can loosen up and act human when he's drunk but otherwise he seems pretty committed to the "hey I'm a phenomenal douchebag who gives no respect to anyone who isn't in my practice partner circle" routine.

I'm convinced his attitude is the only thing holding him back -_-


And with the exception of Strelok, it seems like "top" foreign Terrans tend to be major fucking titty baby excuse making pussies. Artosis, Idra and Aerials come to mind right away (no offense Paul, you know it's true). So what if you're playing the most technically difficult race? If you can't lose with Terran without being a cunt, play the "easy race" and shut the fuck up.


I agree that IdrA's attitude probably holds him back, not just as a human being but as a starcraft player as well. If you're losing a game and you're convinced that your opponent was incapable of rational thought and just got lucky, you're probably not going to learn very much from your losses.
You gotta respect all of your opponents and the way they play, no matter how bad they are.. The same holds true for poker.

And btw, did you forget Brat_OK? Cuz that guy seems really humble and manner from what I've seen.
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Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
February 23 2009 04:52 GMT
#156
So, who's more of the asshole? FBH that sent an a letter to savior that he wants to befriend him then after a match which he rapes saviors dances around him again... or IdrA who likes doesn't type gg and still makes excuses/trashtalks opponents even though he knew that he was raped?
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
February 23 2009 04:55 GMT
#157
wheres idra's reply?!
Life?
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-23 04:55:49
February 23 2009 04:55 GMT
#158
WHERE'D YOU GET ALL THOSE QUOTES!! HOW DO PEOPLE KNOW FOR SURE HE SAID THAT?
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Rho_
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States971 Posts
February 23 2009 04:56 GMT
#159
Tuf Luv.
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
February 23 2009 04:57 GMT
#160
On February 23 2009 13:50 cujo2k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2009 13:32 Louder wrote:
This post is proof that even a human toilet like Rekrul occasionally has something worthwhile to contribute

I voted Idra would lose 1-6 so going 2-5 actually bumped my estimation of his skill a bit. And really, the excuse making is no surprise either. Idra can loosen up and act human when he's drunk but otherwise he seems pretty committed to the "hey I'm a phenomenal douchebag who gives no respect to anyone who isn't in my practice partner circle" routine.

I'm convinced his attitude is the only thing holding him back -_-


And with the exception of Strelok, it seems like "top" foreign Terrans tend to be major fucking titty baby excuse making pussies. Artosis, Idra and Aerials come to mind right away (no offense Paul, you know it's true). So what if you're playing the most technically difficult race? If you can't lose with Terran without being a cunt, play the "easy race" and shut the fuck up.


I agree that IdrA's attitude probably holds him back, not just as a human being but as a starcraft player as well. If you're losing a game and you're convinced that your opponent was incapable of rational thought and just got lucky, you're probably not going to learn very much from your losses.
You gotta respect all of your opponents and the way they play, no matter how bad they are.. The same holds true for poker.

And btw, did you forget Brat_OK? Cuz that guy seems really humble and manner from what I've seen.


Actually I did, but 2 exceptions hardly changes the rule
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