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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
February 28 2009 06:04 GMT
#201
Tomorrow will be the first obstacle.
Jaedong
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
February 28 2009 06:06 GMT
#202
This just shows how terrans dominated this game for much to long.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
February 28 2009 06:17 GMT
#203
On February 28 2009 15:04 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Tomorrow will be the first obstacle.


im so hyped ^^

i should be writing my last university application, and here i am on TL..
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
deathgodtoss
Profile Joined July 2008
Korea (North)189 Posts
February 28 2009 06:38 GMT
#204
On February 09 2009 01:32 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
If you have to ask if he's bonjwa, he's not bonjwa.


this pretty much summed it up
during saviors reign, he wasn't questioned, he was the pinnacle of starcraft.
you knew, in any bo5 against all but maybe like zergman or some z v z specialist, it was an autobet on savior no matter the maps. god, his osl run was so sick.... unbelievable.
god is about as useful as a protoss scout
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
February 28 2009 06:42 GMT
#205
Wasn't this already discussed to death, in at least three separate threads? ^
Jaedong
eazo
Profile Joined March 2008
United States530 Posts
February 28 2009 06:48 GMT
#206
On February 09 2009 01:32 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
If you have to ask if he's bonjwa, he's not bonjwa.

This
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66365 Posts
February 28 2009 09:08 GMT
#207
He's good, but not Bonjwa. Doesn't give the feeling that 'Oh, Bisu's here. He's going to win 100%."
POGGERS
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
February 28 2009 09:10 GMT
#208
On February 28 2009 18:08 konadora wrote:
He's good, but not Bonjwa. Doesn't give the feeling that 'Oh, Bisu's here. He's going to win 100%."

LOL, It is giving the feeling that:" Oh, Bisu's here. He's going to win 100%"
Look at his match list.He is losing 1 game of 10.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66365 Posts
February 28 2009 09:15 GMT
#209
On February 28 2009 18:10 monstar123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2009 18:08 konadora wrote:
He's good, but not Bonjwa. Doesn't give the feeling that 'Oh, Bisu's here. He's going to win 100%."

LOL, It is giving the feeling that:" Oh, Bisu's here. He's going to win 100%"
Look at his match list.He is losing 1 game of 10.


Then why were people (SPOILER FOR TODAY'S OZ VS SKT1) + Show Spoiler +
saying things like 'omg bisu won't make it','i'm a bisu fan but hate to say it, i think jaedong might win'
?
POGGERS
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
February 28 2009 09:19 GMT
#210
On February 28 2009 18:15 konadora wrote:
Then why were people (SPOILER FOR TODAY'S OZ VS SKT1) + Show Spoiler +
saying things like 'omg bisu won't make it','i'm a bisu fan but hate to say it, i think jaedong might win'
?


I agree, Bisu can't really be thought of as a Bonjwa until he can regularly take down beasts like Jaedong and Flash.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66365 Posts
February 28 2009 09:21 GMT
#211
On February 28 2009 18:19 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2009 18:15 konadora wrote:
Then why were people (SPOILER FOR TODAY'S OZ VS SKT1) + Show Spoiler +
saying things like 'omg bisu won't make it','i'm a bisu fan but hate to say it, i think jaedong might win'
?


I agree, Bisu can't really be thought of as a Bonjwa until he can regularly take down beasts like Jaedong and Flash.


Exactly, that's my point. Until he gives you the great confidence, regardless of who the opponent may be, that 'Nah, it's Bisu, he's gonna win for sure.', he's not Bonjwa. I felt that during Savior's prime. Now, not for Bisu.
POGGERS
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
February 28 2009 21:25 GMT
#212
wow im kinda new i never thought that savior was so fucking beast, I mean i knew he was good in his prime but well... :O how long did savior bonjowing go on?
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
February 28 2009 21:47 GMT
#213
PPL u should understand 1 thing. Even when Savior was a beast and bonjwa he also lost to mediocre players. He also lost too much PL games while he was fucking everyone in OSL,MSL.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
February 28 2009 21:51 GMT
#214
He is the best player ever clearly.
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 28 2009 21:57 GMT
#215
On March 01 2009 06:47 monstar123 wrote:
PPL u should understand 1 thing. Even when Savior was a beast and bonjwa he also lost to mediocre players. He also lost too much PL games while he was fucking everyone in OSL,MSL.


which makes sense because? Pl and OSL/MSL are just too different from 3 years ago.

The only reason, as stated before Bisu isn't considered one is because he isn't dominant. Sure, Savior and the like lost to mediocre players in PL but they DOMINATED other top tier players or pulled out damn near certain death victories. In other words - they won when it counted.

Savior vs Iris is possibly one of the greatest ZvT series of all time and when you watch it you can't help but think Savior was THE top dog. Iris gave him HELL and he still won.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
February 28 2009 21:59 GMT
#216
No sure if anyone said this already, but...
Jaedong or Flash will get there first.
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
February 28 2009 22:03 GMT
#217
On March 01 2009 06:59 3 Lions wrote:
No sure if anyone said this already, but...
Jaedong or Flash will get there first.


Flash is not good vs big names (Best,Leta,Bisu for recent examples) but yeah he rapes lesser players like nothing
Jaedong, well he is the best or 2nd player in the world right now, he can make it.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
February 28 2009 22:12 GMT
#218
On February 28 2009 18:10 monstar123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2009 18:08 konadora wrote:
He's good, but not Bonjwa. Doesn't give the feeling that 'Oh, Bisu's here. He's going to win 100%."

LOL, It is giving the feeling that:" Oh, Bisu's here. He's going to win 100%"
Look at his match list.He is losing 1 game of 10.


Yeah, good point, by citing sources that show he isn't 100% you argue that he is 100% :O

Not to mention because of WL he is playing a lot of lesser players who have no chance against him.

I'm not saying he isn't good or can't be Bonjwa, just kind of mentioning the contradictory points in that post
Cobalt
Profile Joined April 2008
United States441 Posts
February 28 2009 22:21 GMT
#219
The thing about Bisu and the bonjwa title is the fact that the title is relative.

I think I remember reading that many people recognize that in terms of raw skill, Bisu is better than at least some of the bonjwas. Why then can he not receive the same title? It's because being a bonjwa has nothing to do with skill, but rather in how dominant a player is. I'm sure almost everyone recognizes this.

The problem is that Boxer, Oov, Nada, and Savior all have the most prestigious title in Starcraft, when Bisu, a player on at least their level (and likely higher), doesn't. Bisu deserves some recognition for having this incredible amount of skill, but he can't be given the title "bonjwa" because of players like Flash and Jaedong, with comparable levels of skill. It seems unfair that he can't have this title simply because there are others who are as good as the previous bonjwas as well. If what I'm saying is correct, then that's the main issue with Bisu. Based solely on titles, people would assume that the bonjwas are better than Bisu, when in reality, he may be the best player in Starcraft history (according to some).
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
February 28 2009 22:29 GMT
#220
On March 01 2009 07:03 Hyperionnn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2009 06:59 3 Lions wrote:
No sure if anyone said this already, but...
Jaedong or Flash will get there first.


Flash is not good vs big names (Best,Leta,Bisu for recent examples) but yeah he rapes lesser players like nothing
Jaedong, well he is the best or 2nd player in the world right now, he can make it.


Err, what? He loses a few games and suddenly he's "not good vs big names"? That's just silly.
BW forever || Thall
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