EPT[Spoiler] Next Bonjwa? - Page 11
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
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imperfect
Canada1652 Posts
On February 28 2009 15:04 Avidkeystamper wrote: Tomorrow will be the first obstacle. im so hyped ^^ i should be writing my last university application, and here i am on TL.. | ||
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deathgodtoss
Korea (North)189 Posts
On February 09 2009 01:32 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: If you have to ask if he's bonjwa, he's not bonjwa. this pretty much summed it up during saviors reign, he wasn't questioned, he was the pinnacle of starcraft. you knew, in any bo5 against all but maybe like zergman or some z v z specialist, it was an autobet on savior no matter the maps. god, his osl run was so sick.... unbelievable. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
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eazo
United States530 Posts
On February 09 2009 01:32 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: If you have to ask if he's bonjwa, he's not bonjwa. This | ||
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
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monstar123
United States516 Posts
On February 28 2009 18:08 konadora wrote: He's good, but not Bonjwa. Doesn't give the feeling that 'Oh, Bisu's here. He's going to win 100%." LOL, It is giving the feeling that:" Oh, Bisu's here. He's going to win 100%" Look at his match list.He is losing 1 game of 10. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
On February 28 2009 18:10 monstar123 wrote: LOL, It is giving the feeling that:" Oh, Bisu's here. He's going to win 100%" Look at his match list.He is losing 1 game of 10. Then why were people (SPOILER FOR TODAY'S OZ VS SKT1) + Show Spoiler + saying things like 'omg bisu won't make it','i'm a bisu fan but hate to say it, i think jaedong might win' | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On February 28 2009 18:15 konadora wrote: Then why were people (SPOILER FOR TODAY'S OZ VS SKT1) + Show Spoiler + saying things like 'omg bisu won't make it','i'm a bisu fan but hate to say it, i think jaedong might win' I agree, Bisu can't really be thought of as a Bonjwa until he can regularly take down beasts like Jaedong and Flash. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
On February 28 2009 18:19 writer22816 wrote: I agree, Bisu can't really be thought of as a Bonjwa until he can regularly take down beasts like Jaedong and Flash. Exactly, that's my point. Until he gives you the great confidence, regardless of who the opponent may be, that 'Nah, it's Bisu, he's gonna win for sure.', he's not Bonjwa. I felt that during Savior's prime. Now, not for Bisu. | ||
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koziol
Poland768 Posts
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monstar123
United States516 Posts
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 01 2009 06:47 monstar123 wrote: PPL u should understand 1 thing. Even when Savior was a beast and bonjwa he also lost to mediocre players. He also lost too much PL games while he was fucking everyone in OSL,MSL. which makes sense because? Pl and OSL/MSL are just too different from 3 years ago. The only reason, as stated before Bisu isn't considered one is because he isn't dominant. Sure, Savior and the like lost to mediocre players in PL but they DOMINATED other top tier players or pulled out damn near certain death victories. In other words - they won when it counted. Savior vs Iris is possibly one of the greatest ZvT series of all time and when you watch it you can't help but think Savior was THE top dog. Iris gave him HELL and he still won. | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
Jaedong or Flash will get there first. | ||
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Hyperionnn
Turkey4968 Posts
On March 01 2009 06:59 3 Lions wrote: No sure if anyone said this already, but... Jaedong or Flash will get there first. Flash is not good vs big names (Best,Leta,Bisu for recent examples) but yeah he rapes lesser players like nothing Jaedong, well he is the best or 2nd player in the world right now, he can make it. | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
On February 28 2009 18:10 monstar123 wrote: LOL, It is giving the feeling that:" Oh, Bisu's here. He's going to win 100%" Look at his match list.He is losing 1 game of 10. Yeah, good point, by citing sources that show he isn't 100% you argue that he is 100% :O Not to mention because of WL he is playing a lot of lesser players who have no chance against him. I'm not saying he isn't good or can't be Bonjwa, just kind of mentioning the contradictory points in that post | ||
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Cobalt
United States441 Posts
I think I remember reading that many people recognize that in terms of raw skill, Bisu is better than at least some of the bonjwas. Why then can he not receive the same title? It's because being a bonjwa has nothing to do with skill, but rather in how dominant a player is. I'm sure almost everyone recognizes this. The problem is that Boxer, Oov, Nada, and Savior all have the most prestigious title in Starcraft, when Bisu, a player on at least their level (and likely higher), doesn't. Bisu deserves some recognition for having this incredible amount of skill, but he can't be given the title "bonjwa" because of players like Flash and Jaedong, with comparable levels of skill. It seems unfair that he can't have this title simply because there are others who are as good as the previous bonjwas as well. If what I'm saying is correct, then that's the main issue with Bisu. Based solely on titles, people would assume that the bonjwas are better than Bisu, when in reality, he may be the best player in Starcraft history (according to some). | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On March 01 2009 07:03 Hyperionnn wrote: Flash is not good vs big names (Best,Leta,Bisu for recent examples) but yeah he rapes lesser players like nothing Jaedong, well he is the best or 2nd player in the world right now, he can make it. Err, what? He loses a few games and suddenly he's "not good vs big names"? That's just silly. | ||
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