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Posting for SC Superstar iCafe.Moto:
Before you begin reading this, I want to clarify that Zynastor is still my bitch. From the gosus & geniuses at Kah, Koreans are heartless, including the great EUD map maker Ava.Kah/Moto.Kah, presents... the #1 Antihack map ever created BY FAR.... [AH v2.0] Maps FEATURES: - Uses EUD Conditions - Uses new Antihack Method that is more secure than anything before.. (Still not perfected though, wait until AH v3.0, if i ever make it...) - Still has olders AH Triggers found in IntrA v1.2 for added protection - No annoying Screen Check or WARNING: messages, this map behaves just like a normal 1:1 map. - Doesn't use noob AH methods like "Disabled Unit Doodad" or sprite or w/e - Obs with PC's will get Mineral/Gas Counter for players - Will NOT drop MAC's - Won't drop random people like EG 2.0 AH Triggers - Must be played on UMS Setting - Made by Moto.Kah, genius + maker of IntrA v1.2 and other revolutionary AH Maps Map Pack Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?ydiwyuz3zzmI imported the triggers to most of the iCCup Maps. I coudn't unprotect a few though... I'll release them later. I challenge you find a hack that works on these maps... I am human, so I might of made mistakes with some maps. If you find any problems, PLZ post here and tell me, or msg me on my MSN... Spartan-119@hotmail.com PS: If any faggot koreans or UMS map making noobs try to jack my triggers from this map, like they did on IntrA v1.2 and AH v1.3, good luck cuz you're maps probably won't work... New method is somewhat "Map Specific", so unless you know how the triggers work, u'r screwed. g-_-g O yea, hackers will instant drop. instant disconnect = hack drop with dropscreen = no hack
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Germany2896 Posts
zynastor is not too active atm, so it might hold for some time 
I personally prefer ICC-AH, but if you are playing on normal bnet it will still be usefull. But I'm pretty sure it will not detect one of currenty public hacks.
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This guy really needs to get his head out of his fucking ass
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On January 11 2009 07:18 arb wrote:
This guy really needs to get his head out of his fucking ass
Seriously,
- Made by Moto.Kah, genius + maker of IntrA v1.2 and other revolutionary AH Maps
shows his attitude -_-
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On January 11 2009 07:18 arb wrote:
This guy really needs to get his head out of his fucking ass
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what are the chances he actually means all of that crap he wrote there? why so serious ?
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Who cares if he's an ass? His antihack maps are the best in existance.
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On January 11 2009 07:29 besiger wrote:
what are the chances he actually means all of that crap he wrote there? why so serious ?
Have you *ever* read the rest of his posts?
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On January 11 2009 07:29 besiger wrote:
what are the chances he actually means all of that crap he wrote there? why so serious ?
Because its Moto.Kah who wrote them. He's worse than Lastshadow about boosting his own ego with the shit he spewed above.
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On January 11 2009 07:12 MasterOfChaos wrote:zynastor is not too active atm, so it might hold for some time I personally prefer ICC-AH, but if you are playing on normal bnet it will still be usefull. But I'm pretty sure it will not detect one of currenty public hacks.
The new AH Method detects map hack by the source, not some trick like IntrA v1.2 or text detection. Thus, these maps are unpatchable by Zynastor and other people... Right now these maps are about equal to iCCup's AH.
When AH v3.0 comes out with new AH method being perfected, it'll be more secure than iccup vs Map hacks...
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Well I think motos personallity has been discussed often enough. Please keep discussion on the antihackmaps. Or this thread will probably be closed like the others before it.
And any antihack can be patched. Map based ones are even easier then normal ones.
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On January 11 2009 07:34 MasterOfChaos wrote:
Well I think motos personallity has been discussed often enough. Please keep discussion on the antihackmaps. Or this thread will probably be closed like the others before it.
Well aside from his personality the maps most likely will work for sometime and it shows mineral count so i can host these for friends so we can laugh at bad macro and what not.
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On January 11 2009 07:36 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 07:34 MasterOfChaos wrote:
Well I think motos personallity has been discussed often enough. Please keep discussion on the antihackmaps. Or this thread will probably be closed like the others before it. Well aside from his personality the maps most likely will work for sometime and it shows mineral count so i can host these for friends so we can laugh at bad macro and what not.
This map doesn't 100% rely on tricks like Intra v1.2, instead, these maps DIRECTLY detects map hack. Hacks won't be easily patchable against this, if they are even possible to patch vs new method.
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the kid thinks hes gosu at sc too. O______o
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haha doesn't matter for me, I have ICCUP. =]
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if these are the same as delta 2 stormplugin drops on them.
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O yea, hackers won't instant drop.
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On January 11 2009 08:21 jimminy_kriket wrote:
if these are the same as delta 2 stormplugin drops on them.
wtf is stormplugin and when does it drop? Does it drop while watching replay? Did you download stormplugin and try? Or was it your friend? Maybe if your friend dropped on the map.. he hacks and is just trying to say stormplugin is the problem...
On January 11 2009 08:25 Ashur wrote:
O yea, hackers won't instant drop.
??????? ur dumb
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On January 11 2009 07:32 tec27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 07:29 besiger wrote:
what are the chances he actually means all of that crap he wrote there? why so serious ? Have you *ever* read the rest of his posts?
Yes i have read plenty of stuff he posted, at most i get a good laugh out of it.
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Great job, I'm sure you put a lot of hard work into these. Thanks for helping rid bnet of stupid hackers.
p.s. who cares if he's cocky, he's actually contributing to the community unlike most of us...
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On January 11 2009 08:25 >>>>>> Ashur <<<<<<wrote:
O yea, hackers won't instant drop.
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN MAN!?
Awesome to see you!
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k well stormplugin isnt dropping me anymore i dont know what caused it then, my bw crashed when it happened, does this map do that?
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hmmm spartan... is that the guy that was in charge of TL ladder antihack?
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that was tiger
spartan is the owner of vgt the fastest ladder
moto makes antihack maps
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On January 11 2009 08:48 jimminy_kriket wrote:
k well stormplugin isnt dropping me anymore i dont know what caused it then, my bw crashed when it happened, does this map do that?
thank god i thought new ah map were dropping random people. The crash ur describing is not related to the maps and happen whether u use Stormplugin or not, and it also gives other players a dropscreen... so don't worry people won't think you hack
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On January 11 2009 07:37 Ava.Kah wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 07:36 arb wrote:On January 11 2009 07:34 MasterOfChaos wrote:
Well I think motos personallity has been discussed often enough. Please keep discussion on the antihackmaps. Or this thread will probably be closed like the others before it. Well aside from his personality the maps most likely will work for sometime and it shows mineral count so i can host these for friends so we can laugh at bad macro and what not. This map doesn't 100% rely on tricks like Intra v1.2, instead, these maps DIRECTLY detects map hack. Hacks won't be easily patchable against this, if they are even possible to patch vs new method.
The triggers you're using are by definition tricks, nowhere near as powerful as regular antihacks. I'm all fine with you advertising that they currently beat hacks, as they do, but to say they're going to be hard to patch against is fairly false (and wtf do you mean by "directly"? As far as I know, the triggers you're using can only access the data portion of SC, which is going to make it pretty much impossible to detect maphacks 'directly' (which I would take to mean detecting code changes in certain parts of the game)).
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The Mineral/Gas Counter for players is really awesome. :-)
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On January 11 2009 10:12 LuckyFool wrote:
The Mineral/Gas Counter for players is really awesome. :-)
Should add population to it also
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He's just going to provoke zynastor :/.
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I like his attitude, I find it refreshing. Thanks for the map.
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On January 11 2009 09:48 tec27 wrote:
The triggers you're using are by definition tricks, nowhere near as powerful as regular antihacks. I'm all fine with you advertising that they currently beat hacks, as they do, but to say they're going to be hard to patch against is fairly false (and wtf do you mean by "directly"? As far as I know, the triggers you're using can only access the data portion of SC, which is going to make it pretty much impossible to detect maphacks 'directly' (which I would take to mean detecting code changes in certain parts of the game)).
I can't for the life of me figure out why people have so much confidence in "regular antihacks." They are as trivial to defeat as these maps are - with the difference that the antihack maps might not be properly understood by someone that specializes in reverse code engineering rather than starcraft map making.
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A hacker who makes antihack maps to hide the fact that he hacks... funny o.o
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On January 11 2009 15:21 Phrujbaz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2009 09:48 tec27 wrote:
The triggers you're using are by definition tricks, nowhere near as powerful as regular antihacks. I'm all fine with you advertising that they currently beat hacks, as they do, but to say they're going to be hard to patch against is fairly false (and wtf do you mean by "directly"? As far as I know, the triggers you're using can only access the data portion of SC, which is going to make it pretty much impossible to detect maphacks 'directly' (which I would take to mean detecting code changes in certain parts of the game)). I can't for the life of me figure out why people have so much confidence in "regular antihacks." They are as trivial to defeat as these maps are - with the difference that the antihack maps might not be properly understood by someone that specializes in reverse code engineering rather than starcraft map making.
The difference being, a properly written regular antihack can self-update and detect new hacks, these maps become obsolete once the hack author works around them and provide no protection against many other types of hack.
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On January 11 2009 11:42 bp1696 wrote:
I like his attitude, I find it refreshing. Thanks for the map.
I second that! Good Job. Not everyone can figure out the programming/coding.
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Cafe is a superstar? He is really BM thats for sure.
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dude icafe.moto said he was best on east, if hes best on east, east must really suck taht bad ROFLCOPTER :D
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On January 11 2009 16:38 R1CH wrote:
The difference being, a properly written regular antihack can self-update and detect new hacks, these maps become obsolete once the hack author works around them and provide no protection against many other types of hack.
Both are obsolete once the hack author works around them. Sure, you can make a new antihack, and the hacker can make a new workaround, and you can keep on going forever.
In the end people just need to stop being no-life asshats and learn to play a fair game ffs.
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On January 11 2009 08:37 Ava.Kah wrote:??????? ur dumb
Ashur probably means that there are passive/external hacks which wouldn't cause a drop because they are undetectable by the map.
I suggest you to be more careful when choosing words.
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Guys please don't come to the thread just to bm Moto, you can do that on your own through msn or on battle.net.
As for patching the maps, I can't be specific, but it's going to be much more complicated than simply "patching" the hack this time.
Since most of you don't understand EUDs at all or how this works at all, please don't say false things you don't really know about like "WELL THEY'LL JUST PATCH THE HACK SO WHO CARES" because it is both misleading and demoralizing. Also, this should work on even all private maphacks, and definitely works vs all current public hacks.
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No it will not be more difficult.
From what I see he uses the old message based detection he used in the old versions(zynastor has already broken that method, so it does not hurt to talk about it), and additionally a new method which is trivially patched as a 10 liner(I won't publish it before it is broken).
But of course I might have missed another new ingenious method.
And external hacks will always be missed by these maps, unless he exploits a security hole in SC to execute arbitary code on the client.
Evenso I doubt the strength of antimaphack maps, I still admire the creative ways he finds for detecting hacks from EUDs.
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do these maps work for bw 1.15.3 ?
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so does these AH maps work or not?
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They work for the current integrated maphacks on 1.16. External maphacks can of course not be detected. And Ashur has coded a private external maphack some years ago, so obviously he can hack.
Internal hacks will work as soon as Zynastor corrects values read by the EUD. I don't think it will take him long, as it is not that difficult.
And Ashur why would you publish an external maphack just because some noob flames you? That just creates additional work for ICCup, and generally puts hackers in a better position because there is a fully featured external maphack available. And you know how hard fighting external hacks is.
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On January 12 2009 04:28 MasterOfChaos wrote: or did I miss something?
Well, maybe... :D
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no map/antihack isn't %100 antihack, still how the hell you can play like that? It should be hard playing with w-mode
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On January 12 2009 04:53 Hyperionnn wrote:
no map/antihack isn't %100 antihack, still how the hell you can play like that? It should be hard playing with w-mode
You can have 2 screens or 2 machines.
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Wait, Ashur, why'd you put MasterOfChaos name into Nightmarejoo's ask to ban?
And Nightmarejoo, I hope you know who Ashur is. He coded the original Penguin Plug/Anti-hack feature for PGTour and has influenced the community more than you ever have reposting Moto's anti-hack maps.
Ashur, please don't post your iteration of the external hack. As MasterofChaos, you would just be making it harder for the current generation to play decent Starcraft.
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On January 12 2009 05:01 thunk wrote:
Wait, Ashur, why'd you put MasterOfChaos name into Nightmarejoo's ask to ban?
Oh, +1 point!
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He is probably just screwing a bit with us.
The post was entirely different a few minutes ago. Ninjaedit4tw 
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On January 12 2009 05:04 MasterOfChaos wrote:He is probably just screwing a bit with us. The post was entirely different a few minutes ago. Ninjaedit4tw
I didn't. I told Chill to chill out when i received the "1st ban warning". He edited//deleted that posts. Ill change my signature, so he will have to delete all my posts.That should keep him busy for some time, and we can continue the thread.
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ashur has gone to the dark side or something?
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ashur,,can you update the bwchart and bwcoach pls... they are outdated... bwcoach not working for me .or maybe the bwcoach doesnt work for monikon starcraft? which is a mini version of starcraft . can anyone comfirm this? does bwcoach still works or not? it doesnt work for me. im using vista 64 and monikon starcraft. 
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On January 12 2009 05:10 jimminy_kriket wrote:
ashur has gone to the dark side or something?
I think he just dislikes overconfident antihack developers. You only arrive on the dark side if you publish the program. I think we had a similar thread every time an "unbeatable" antihack has been published.
On January 12 2009 05:15 KingofHearts wrote:ashurt,,can you update the bwchart and bwcoach pls... they are outdated... bwcoach not working for my vista 64 ..
Both aren't his. But he could update first person replays
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On January 12 2009 05:15 KingofHearts wrote:ashurt,,can you update the bwchart and bwcoach pls... they are outdated... bwcoach not working for my vista 64 ..
No, but i can give you that cheat, huh?
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On January 12 2009 05:18 Ashur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2009 05:15 KingofHearts wrote:ashurt,,can you update the bwchart and bwcoach pls... they are outdated... bwcoach not working for my vista 64 .. No, but i can give you that cheat, huh?
i love to cheat but thats agaisnt my principle. no tahnks
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first person replays was ashur's work? i remember using it. please update that thanks. 
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On January 12 2009 05:18 MasterOfChaos wrote:Both aren't his. But he could update first person replays
And yes MoC, that's true. I remember time when you didnt know what __asm directive stands for. And now you are respected coder.
I have the sources of those tools, you never know :D
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*Cough cough* my signature... down there... *Cough*
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put my name in your credits list in your software when you update something yo.
edit.
im gonna download that link.
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On January 12 2009 05:23 KingofHearts wrote:
im gonna download that link.
jahaha Chill, you were too slooow...! Nasty censorship takes time
I hope you are mad atm.
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ashur what the hell are you doing btw
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On January 12 2009 07:36 jimminy_kriket wrote:
ashur what the hell are you doing btw
Showing that he doesn't really give a shit about fair gaming and is more concerned about nerd-ego fights.
Don't know how the expression in english is, but translated would be something like: The one that leaves without being expelled comes back without being called.
"El que se va sin que lo echen vuelve sin que lo llamen"
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Sad to see such a well respected programmer who use to selflessly help the community become such a dick.
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On January 12 2009 08:06 Nytefish wrote:
Sad to see such a well respected programmer who use to selflessly help the community become such a dick.
Yes yes, I agree, poor Moto.Kah...
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dude you arent even bothering moto... just the people who want to play hack free
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On January 12 2009 08:13 Ashur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2009 08:06 Nytefish wrote:
Sad to see such a well respected programmer who use to selflessly help the community become such a dick. Yes yes, I agree, poor Moto.Kah...
You have a great sense of humor =)
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Well obviously, mission failed. I coudn't break your hackfree utopia. Hope that noone will release any sophisticated cheat anytime soon.
Everybody gnite.
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What the fuck Ashur's external hack looks fucking ridiculous.
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On January 12 2009 05:01 thunk wrote:
Wait, Ashur, why'd you put MasterOfChaos name into Nightmarejoo's ask to ban?
And Nightmarejoo, I hope you know who Ashur is. He coded the original Penguin Plug/Anti-hack feature for PGTour and has influenced the community more than you ever have reposting Moto's anti-hack maps.
Ashur, please don't post your iteration of the external hack. As MasterofChaos, you would just be making it harder for the current generation to play decent Starcraft.
No, superpenguin from France coded the ORIGINAL Penguin Plug. Ashur took it and updated it for later patches, I believe.
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i just got haxxor hardcore on bnet
it was a FFA hunters, i was zerg vs protoss vs protoss
i eliminated one, fend off an attack of the other and was about to counter attack, when all my buildings expoded. all my units. at least he had it programmed to say "GG" lol.
i have the replay. makes me mad. is there anything i can do? can u report these to blizzard or something?
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What the hell is going on in this thread? Is this shit even worth downloading?
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On January 12 2009 11:03 CharlieMurphy wrote:
What the hell is going on in this thread? Is this shit even worth downloading?
Probably not, someone released a hackfix for this version a little while ago.
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On January 12 2009 10:30 cUrsOr wrote:
i just got haxxor hardcore on bnet
it was a FFA hunters, i was zerg vs protoss vs protoss
i eliminated one, fend off an attack of the other and was about to counter attack, when all my buildings expoded. all my units. at least he had it programmed to say "GG" lol.
i have the replay. makes me mad. is there anything i can do? can u report these to blizzard or something?
If thats true, it's absolutely awesome.
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Just had a hilarious conversation with Cafe.Moto on west. Wish I could save the chat log and post it here. He talked a bit about how the maps work. Seems pretty solid. I dunno.
I took 7 screenshots.
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On January 12 2009 11:03 CharlieMurphy wrote:
What the hell is going on in this thread? Is this shit even worth downloading?
No, it is not. One of the infamous sites has already created a fix for this:
i posted a fix for this. it is waiting for approval.
Presumably in a couple of hours this will be fixed with all popular public hacks, so don't even bother with it.
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On January 12 2009 11:29 Rotodyne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2009 10:30 cUrsOr wrote:
i just got haxxor hardcore on bnet
it was a FFA hunters, i was zerg vs protoss vs protoss
i eliminated one, fend off an attack of the other and was about to counter attack, when all my buildings expoded. all my units. at least he had it programmed to say "GG" lol.
i have the replay. makes me mad. is there anything i can do? can u report these to blizzard or something? If thats true, it's absolutely awesome.
its true. i have the replay if you want me to email it to you.
just regular battle net game, i think it was titled The Hunters.
players name was F_C_IN_LAME
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On January 12 2009 11:34 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
What is this thread?? This thread is getting closed
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Oh how the mighty have fallen :\
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