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On May 02 2008 04:38 ForAdun wrote:
To me it seems that many tl.netters prefer to simply replace a person instead of finding an agreement. This is a very bad sign, it means that the person behind is less important than the work being done - unpaid work!
I have a really bad feeling about this.
eh? he doesnt want an agreement
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On May 02 2008 04:21 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2008 04:19 ForAdun wrote:On May 02 2008 04:14 iG.ClouD wrote:On May 02 2008 04:10 ForAdun wrote:
The whole trouble started way back, it would've never gotten so huge if all of us had simply left BaeZZi make his contribution for the community. A few people complaining here and there can be enough to cause such trouble and I think this was the case here. Sometimes people posted really annoying stuff about BaeZZi, on yt and here on tl.
What makes me really angry now are the people here saying that BaeZZi is acting childish and it's all his own fault blah blah blah. You guys should think of the cause-and-effect chain before blaming a single person, especially a respectable one like BaeZZi is.
Please think before you talk, guys. We need him and he doesn't need us. He doesn't want attention as some of you say, he just does not want people to ignore that he's human and not a robot.
It doesn't matter who's at fault, it only matters that you don't annoy him. Even if you are right you can't deny he's being a total bitch for a post which wasn't meant by anyone except him to be a flame or racist. He was the only one being racist after all. And now we are going to bury him? I say end the bullying now please everyone and start the diplomacy today or tomorrow whoever has contact to BaeZZi, please, please and huge thanks! don't talk about things you don't know about or don't fully understand thanks
Why the hell not? How else would we get anything done around here?
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On May 02 2008 04:40 IntoTheWow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2008 04:38 ForAdun wrote:
To me it seems that many tl.netters prefer to simply replace a person instead of finding an agreement. This is a very bad sign, it means that the person behind is less important than the work being done - unpaid work!
I have a really bad feeling about this. What? TL tried to get to an agreement. Why do you comment on things you don't know?
I didn't mean you. I meant a huge part of the community that seems to prefer quick actions taken no matter how bad it might end.
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On May 02 2008 04:41 CDRdude wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2008 04:21 LosingID8 wrote:On May 02 2008 04:19 ForAdun wrote:On May 02 2008 04:14 iG.ClouD wrote:On May 02 2008 04:10 ForAdun wrote:
The whole trouble started way back, it would've never gotten so huge if all of us had simply left BaeZZi make his contribution for the community. A few people complaining here and there can be enough to cause such trouble and I think this was the case here. Sometimes people posted really annoying stuff about BaeZZi, on yt and here on tl.
What makes me really angry now are the people here saying that BaeZZi is acting childish and it's all his own fault blah blah blah. You guys should think of the cause-and-effect chain before blaming a single person, especially a respectable one like BaeZZi is.
Please think before you talk, guys. We need him and he doesn't need us. He doesn't want attention as some of you say, he just does not want people to ignore that he's human and not a robot.
It doesn't matter who's at fault, it only matters that you don't annoy him. Even if you are right you can't deny he's being a total bitch for a post which wasn't meant by anyone except him to be a flame or racist. He was the only one being racist after all. And now we are going to bury him? I say end the bullying now please everyone and start the diplomacy today or tomorrow whoever has contact to BaeZZi, please, please and huge thanks! don't talk about things you don't know about or don't fully understand thanks Why the hell not? How else would we get anything done around here?
by having people who fully understand talk about things
... was this not obvious? like, simple logic 'n shit?
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Nobody wants to replace him. We want him back. Where did you get the idea from.
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On May 02 2008 04:42 Jimtudor wrote:
Nobody wants to replace him. We want him back. Where did you get the idea from.
Just read the whole topic, that idea came up pretty quick.
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On May 02 2008 04:42 Jimtudor wrote:
Nobody wants to replace him. We want him back. Where did you get the idea from.
WHAT.
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On May 02 2008 04:41 ForAdun wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2008 04:40 IntoTheWow wrote:On May 02 2008 04:38 ForAdun wrote:
To me it seems that many tl.netters prefer to simply replace a person instead of finding an agreement. This is a very bad sign, it means that the person behind is less important than the work being done - unpaid work!
I have a really bad feeling about this. What? TL tried to get to an agreement. Why do you comment on things you don't know? I didn't mean you. I meant a huge part of the community that seems to prefer quick actions taken no matter how bad it might end.
lol im done with this. Seems like baezzi attracts the sympathy of people similar to him. No surprise. Please foradun keep saying the same thing over and over even if people is proving ur totally wrong. Its fun.
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On May 02 2008 04:44 iG.ClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2008 04:41 ForAdun wrote:On May 02 2008 04:40 IntoTheWow wrote:On May 02 2008 04:38 ForAdun wrote:
To me it seems that many tl.netters prefer to simply replace a person instead of finding an agreement. This is a very bad sign, it means that the person behind is less important than the work being done - unpaid work!
I have a really bad feeling about this. What? TL tried to get to an agreement. Why do you comment on things you don't know? I didn't mean you. I meant a huge part of the community that seems to prefer quick actions taken no matter how bad it might end. lol im done with this. Seems like baezzi attracts the sympathy of people similar to him. No surprise. Please foradun keep saying the same thing over and over even if people is proving ur totally wrong. Its fun.
What exactly did I say that can be proven wrong? I just have my thoughts about the cause of the drama, that's my own thing. You can see it differently, but you can't say that diplomacy is wrong. Or do you?
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Maybe he was really from North Korea. That would explain his paranoid behaviour.
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On May 02 2008 04:46 ForAdun wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2008 04:44 iG.ClouD wrote:On May 02 2008 04:41 ForAdun wrote:On May 02 2008 04:40 IntoTheWow wrote:On May 02 2008 04:38 ForAdun wrote:
To me it seems that many tl.netters prefer to simply replace a person instead of finding an agreement. This is a very bad sign, it means that the person behind is less important than the work being done - unpaid work!
I have a really bad feeling about this. What? TL tried to get to an agreement. Why do you comment on things you don't know? I didn't mean you. I meant a huge part of the community that seems to prefer quick actions taken no matter how bad it might end. lol im done with this. Seems like baezzi attracts the sympathy of people similar to him. No surprise. Please foradun keep saying the same thing over and over even if people is proving ur totally wrong. Its fun. What exactly did I say that can be proven wrong? I just have my thoughts about the cause of the drama, that's my own thing. You can see it differently, but you can't say that diplomacy is wrong. Or do you?
It is teamliquid policy to ban childish attention whores. It is also teamliquid policy to ban anyone who disrupts the features of the site. BaeZZi has shown himself to be both. The guy has contributed a lot and we appreciate it. But that does not give him any rights. It earns him leniency and I'd say he's exhausted it by picking fights with mods and holding the TLPD to ransom. The guy has to go, and as such needs to be replaced.
Also, I believe there was a Linkin Park song on the subject of giving and expecting to recieve. Perhaps if he won't listen to reason we can sway him with that.
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Edit: I was ill informed. I am now better informed.
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Corinthos
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On May 02 2008 04:38 ForAdun wrote:
To me it seems that many tl.netters prefer to simply replace a person instead of finding an agreement. This is a very bad sign, it means that the person behind is less important than the work being done - unpaid work!
I have a really bad feeling about this.
There is no feature/tool on youtube that I am aware about that forces user to pay to watch videos, if there is please correct me.
It was his choice to upload the videos onto YouTube, he can easily go somewhere else and upload videos that have that option, it's his choice. When he made posts how he doesn't get paid to do this, it just adds onto the profile of childish. Then to bring more attention he needs to publish one of his own signature featured videos on his account with music that screams "hello look at me im right" just crumbles any sign of modesty or integrity he has. Not including the music probably would of been better choice imo. It just makes his case look really weak, because it seems like all he wants is praises and acknowledgment, and if everyone did that, then the internet would not be what it is.
His comments and posts just scream Attention. Squelching tl.net from his videos just adds onto that, and it pretty much paints his personality on the wall, and the big power trip he's going on. Quite frankly, I still don't understand why he tries to post here in English if he knows he has trouble with it. Then ironically, he misinterpret Live2Win's posts/pms in his own native language Korean, but whatever no one has perfected the trait of communication.
In the end, I will say that I am grateful for the work he has done because I know first hand how it feels like to download the videos then get them ready and uploading them on youtube. It takes an extreme amount of dedication. However, I hope he acknowledges that we are here for StarCraft and our love for it, and if he shares the same passion I feel he will make the right decision to allow others to watch it as well. People will always be opinionated, but let us not forget what we are here for.
Bai
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On May 02 2008 04:51 Kwark wrote:
Btw, I disagree with the ban of ForAdun, if it's suddenly become wrong to post angrily on a subject you know nothing about then we need a lot more bans around here. As far as I know it's not a bannable offence to disagree with tl mods provided you do it politely.
well it's only 2 days, I'd say he deserved it
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On May 02 2008 04:51 Kwark wrote:
Btw, I disagree with the ban of ForAdun, if it's suddenly become wrong to post angrily on a subject you know nothing about then we need a lot more bans around here. As far as I know it's not a bannable offence to disagree with tl mods provided you do it politely.
He's also previously banned user banned for trolling.
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yea not sure sc2gg got involved or what the original circumstances were, but I hope cooler heads prevail.
That being said I still back up Baezzi regardless of circumstance for all the hardwork he has put into the community . We basically exist because of his and violetak's sacrificial work.
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On May 02 2008 05:02 Kennigit wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2008 04:51 Kwark wrote:
Btw, I disagree with the ban of ForAdun, if it's suddenly become wrong to post angrily on a subject you know nothing about then we need a lot more bans around here. As far as I know it's not a bannable offence to disagree with tl mods provided you do it politely. He's also previously banned user banned for trolling.
Ah, go nuts then.
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We should just all stop crawling in Baezzi's skin.
<_<
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