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United States1825 Posts
first person view vod demonstration: http://us.yaoyuan.com/vod/4dropships.rm (please rite click and Save As)
replay: http://us.yaoyuan.com/dropships.rep
a breaking discovery by yaoyuan.com clan leader [YY64]pcs!! this topic is HOT in chinese sc forums atm!!
the key difference of this new technique is ONLY ONE "U" is required!! as u see in the short first person view vod clip recorded by pcs himself, all u need 2 do its to find the GEOMETRY CENTER OF GRAVITY of all ur dropships. the dropships do NOT have 2b in a str8t line like u saw in the vod. even if some of them stack together, as long as u can precisely locate the center of gravity it will work.
please note that this is BY NO MEAN an easy thing 2 do. it requires lots of practice. its an advanced micro technique. so b4 u say something like "its not practical in real battle at all" or "its too hard. success rate is too low" please keep in mind that micro skills do not come that easy. for all the incredible micros u watched in replays and vods those progamers probably praticed hundreds of thousands of times. however its not THAT hard either. we already got members report a success rate as high as 80%.
again the most important thing is to "feel" and locate the center of gravity fast and accurately. once u can manage to do it the superiority of this new technique cant be more obvious: less control required. this discovery is still new and hundreds of people are still testing it out and hopefully will find some better ways around and eventually make it easier. if u find out any tips during ur experiment please dont hesitate to post and share with us.
cheers.
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Why did the bitch have to capture it in .rm im not fucking installing that bullshit again T_T.
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United States1825 Posts
i will post replays too. hang on.
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Sweden33719 Posts
oO I have done that before ;{ I didn't know it was something undiscovered :O
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I had been going from channel to channel teach people on b.net I even msg Nazgul about it, but he didn't reply.
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This is not new. I've seen this movie from about two months. But I still haven't got it. So ok, you press "upload" in the "CENTER OF GRAVITY of all ur dropships", but I don't understand why the dropships don't stop to unload everything there, but continue moving. Can someone explain to me?
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This is the same thing as using templars to storm at the same time with clicking once.. "korean storming" they used to call it..old news, used to do it all day on Templar Defense, lol
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U means unload right?!? (Use other keys)
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On September 05 2003 22:03 rei wrote: I had been going from channel to channel teach people on b.net I even msg Nazgul about it, but he didn't reply.
I'm rolling on the floor man
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On September 05 2003 22:05 Morbid wrote: This is not new. I've seen this movie from about two months. But I still haven't got it. So ok, you press "upload" in the "CENTER OF GRAVITY of all ur dropships", but I don't understand why the dropships don't stop to unload everything there, but continue moving. Can someone explain to me?
This is older than dirt..I don't know why people are making such a big deal about it with drop ships..People were using it with high templar a lonnng time ago ;;
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Is there any hope of doing this with lag?
Basically when you hit the middle of the Dropships wouldn't it theoretically wait a split second to do the unload? Thus meaning they would turn around to unload at the spot. I'm GUESSING that you would need to guess the spot and hope you are right.
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I can't watch the VOD so I don't know wtf the "Center of the dropship". If im guessing its clicking the Exact Middle of the dropship. Right?
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
not center of dropshop but center of gravity of dropships. thou you may call it a new discovery by drawing public attentions, i've heard someone told about it two years ago.
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United States4471 Posts
How does this work with temp storming again? This is all new to me.
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yeah someone explain templar storming for us n00bs =D
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u said "NEW" but..what was the "OLD" one?_?
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what the hell is the centre of gravity on a dropship? Oo
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ok i got it, =/ not that hard -_-
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Ok, this is so easy to do. I've done it in a first try. So whoever said it is hard and you have to practice, well it's not .
But yes I didn't know about this so it is sure much easier to do with one U. I will be using this move in the future.
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Center of gravity? Does that mean we have to take into account the weight of the units inside the dropship? :D
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say if you have 4 marines and a tank in one dropships, would you then have to push a bit over to the tanks side because it weighs more?
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its not that hard...but how do we do that storming technique?
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OK "Center of gravity of da dropships" as i understand it:
Lets say you have a fleet of dropships flying around in a circular formation. well, just click unload in in the middle of the Circle while the dropships are still moving... Its also easy to find from a box formation and so on.. just use your brain to figure it out. its simple logic
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ejai63
United States2101 Posts
for temps. just spread them apart a little, and then storm, and it will storm in relation to the temps. for example, if you have the temps 3 inches apart, then storm a certain location, then each of the storms will be 3 inches apart as well
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if its what Hot77 is saying then this is just VERY old. I would think most ppl knew that from just common sense when DSs dont unload exactly, but if you try to unload them in the "middle" of all of them it works somewhat fluidly.
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ive done that with temps 100s of times before when I was a newb and stacked. God that looked gosu :D.
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i dont know how to do it with temps OR dropships.
so u find the middle point of ur dropships and unload there?
so do you target the middle ground between your temps as well? lol
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ive done it a few times now with 2 drop ships. More dropships seems harder
Its pretty nice.
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ugh i dont use ds's anyway
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Australia4514 Posts
people were doing this at the same time as everyone was learnings boxer style.
just leave the chinese to the glory of their discovery.
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with templars if u storm the ground not the units with a group of templars at the point thats in range for all of the templars, theyll cover the spot in storms. sorta like when u drop, dropships unload around the target not directly over it
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next time you see a chinese person they are going to say how they were the first to make paper, gunpowder and the unloading dropship technique
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does it work with defilers?
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On September 06 2003 06:56 ArC wrote: does it work with defilers? dont see why not... doesnt seem to have any practical applications though.
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I have a very old rep of boxer doing this ):
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I allways thought that boxer used the d-ships in individual groups...
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Valhalla18444 Posts
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If you select a group of high templar, and hit T, and then click the terrain somewhere, they storm the area where you clicked. having eight storms in one place sucks. hit 't', then click on the minimap where you want it. The templar will hold formation, and storm once they reach within range.
Your storms will keep the exact pattern of their formation... And centralize their storms around where you clicked.
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WHICH PROGRAMM DO I NEED TO HAVE A LOOK AT THIS VOD?
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And can anyone other explain it? Perhaps I understand it if I have so Vod but so  That thing with the templars is clear but I just don't understand what this "Centre of Gravity" is and where to click.
thx
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Australia4514 Posts
6 Dropships, x marks the spot.
D1.....D2............D3 ............X..D3 .........D4........D5
or if my pics to awesome to advanced for you lot to follow... just the supposed centre of the entire group.
With temps just select 3 that are in a row and storm in front of the middle one.
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ah thx legion  yes that thing with the temps is easy and your picture is realy nice  I hope I can do it now. thx
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ah it works. I love you Legion
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.rm is realmovie = realplayer (with spyware)
Doesn't alt+c give the centre automatically?
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you could just hotkey them and hold the hotkey down, but for it to work, the ships have to be moving, so theres no point
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Easy way for finding the 'center of gravity' for your dropships:
Use a CD-marker or something to put a little black dot exactly in the middle of your monitor. Group all dropships under 1, press 1 two times and the black dot will point you to the center of gravity. ^_^
(Based on an idea my brother used for CS. He just zoomed in with AWP, put a dot on his monitor in the middle of the crosshair and you also had a aiming mark when you're zoomed out )
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On September 06 2003 18:54 LaptopLegacy wrote: Easy way for finding the 'center of gravity' for your dropships: Use a CD-marker or something to put a little black dot exactly in the middle of your monitor. Group all dropships under 1, press 1 two times and the black dot will point you to the center of gravity. ^_^ (Based on an idea my brother used for CS. He just zoomed in with AWP, put a dot on his monitor in the middle of the crosshair and you also had a aiming mark when you're zoomed out  )
That's cheating.
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but what exactly makes them keep flying?
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it's all based around as if it were 1 dropship, take one dropship, as it's moving, hit U then click on the dropship, it will unload as it moves, so if you have a clump of dropships, pretend it's all 1 big dropship
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Could someone explain to me in what way boxer did it? I've seen it but haven't tried it myself.
If he did it the way I think he did it, then I just might have another discovery which _might_ make it easier to do it. But that one is most probably also discovered 2 years ago but whatever :O
someone? =)
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I tried the dropship trick with some shuttles and they worked just as well, although it's much easier to guess the center when you have only 2 and they don't have speed.
But for multi-storming (& formation dropping), there seems to be a minimum distance of about 2 inches on my 19" monitor. If 2 templar are further away than this, they will cast in the same place, if all are closer they'll cast apart. Same goes for dropping. Arranging say 9 shuttles in a 3x3 grid with max side length < 2", and then dropping far away on one spot, they'll keep their positions and won't interfere and waste time.
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
imo it's practically better to drag 3 and click u and repeat others than align 9 shuttles. of course it requires hands speed but i think 150~200apm should be enough.
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Im thinking calling it the "center of gravity" is a little confusing, how about the geometirc center of the group. And oh dear god there is an amazon.com ad at the bottom of the page. AHH, a gozing.com ad on the side...... i dont exaclty know what gozing.com is. TL.net a little low on funds?
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i guess sponsors r always welcome
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I have no idea why he didn't call it the 'center of the group of dropships'.
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Can anyone send me the files or a link to them? The one posted earlier isn't online.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
There is a seriously easy way to do this
When you're gonna drop put 1 ship in the middle of your screen (click on it and click its portrait to center it), then space your other ships around it evenly. Then use minimap to navigate so they hold formation.. When you want to drop hit U in the center ship, since its the "center of gravity".
its still not EASY easy, but its simpler than guessing at the location
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MURICA15980 Posts
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