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HoloPainen
Profile Joined April 2003
Hungary54 Posts
August 11 2003 11:49 GMT
#101
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Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
August 11 2003 12:07 GMT
#102
first off, 2pac was the best. period. his lyrical content so far surpasses all others to such an extent that it makes any comparison ridiculous. and being an emcee is mostly about having the best shit written.

biggie. mathematical flow. best sounding rapper of all time. questionable writing ability. it has been said that craig mack ghostwrote ready 2 die. given the utter shit (well, comparitive shit) that came out of biggie's mouth afterwards, i am inclined to agree.

nas. artist. great voice. chases the dollar. soft. lacks charisma. terrific artist.

jigga. talent. creative. smart. alot of the wordplay you hear today, he created. eminem bit his wordplay, and rode the 2pac matyrdom train to superstardom. why do you think nobody gave a fuck about the slim shady lp? he was just the white dude with ill flow until he dropped the mmlp, and adopted the pac-martyrdom style image. instant $$.

there is a reason why shyheim aka the rugged child fell the fuck off after "on and on". he was garbage. he was better than that other "kiddie hardcore" duo tho, i must confess.

gza shines as a producer, not a lyricist.

big-l was the man. he took b-boy murder music (from a skills standpoint) much farther than raekwon, spice 1, or eazy e.

arguables:
rakim. delivery. innovation.
buckshot. god flow. understated delivery.
slick rick. storyteller. bourgeoisie. artist. pussy. nas before nas.

great individual performances on an album:
guru on hard to earn.
common sense (now common) on can i borrow a dollar.
q-tip on midnight marauders.

there's more but bleh.
JAM THE FUCKER!
Dirk
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-11 12:29:52
August 11 2003 12:08 GMT
#103
Damn, so much shit to comment on. First of all, i dont think anyone here has tried to give southern rappers credit for being good "rappers", cuz lyrically.. they obviously dont compare. They make songs that get you hype, and sometimes i feel like gettin hype, and then others i like to listen to quality rap. I dont see nothing wrong with that. About eminem... anyone who tries to say eminem doesnt have talent has just discredited any future post in this thread. Have you even heard any of his battles? He got second place at the rap olympics and yeah, tight rappers like Cannibus was there.

Jayz is one of the best cuz look how long he's been in the game and still going strong, you know how many people flop in the rap industry? Granted he might not be puttin out stuff thats original and creative as it used to be, but you try staying in the biz for as many years as him. And yeah, Nas chewed him up, horribly. I still listen to the song Ether to this day. Not sure who tried saying puffy was a good rapper.... have you lost your damn mind? The only reason he's in any videos rapping is because he owns bad boy and makes all the top decisions and does anything he wants. He's a good businessman, not an artist =/

Im only on the 5th page and i just said fuck it ill respond now. Everyone knows it was a damn shame how bad eminem made Jayz look in Renegade. Whether you want to admit it or not, eminems part was much better than jayz's, even though i liked jayz's part. And i dont know whats with all the hate on down south rap, mad cuz they coming up? Getting more popular as time goes on? And if you wanna go back and fourth with trading verses, sure ill do that using eminem, i could go on forever. But what it comes down to is, what your taste is, i get tired of hearing jayz voice after a while and i dont find his music as thrilling as down south shit. I would much rather get crunk off some tight beats, and dance to it, than sit down and dissect somebody's nice lyrics. Even though i do both.

Simply put.. Jayz = one of the best... well respected, but yeah got ate up by nas IMO (and mostly everyones). Eminem = talented as a mofo. Cannibus = not to be f*cked with in battling.
Dont confuse me wit these suckas... cuz when I spit, you here more OOOs than a skip to my lou move.. at the ruckers - Lloyd Banks
Bl[a]Ze
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada111 Posts
August 11 2003 12:22 GMT
#104
Ok let me break it down, if we are talking about the best rappers of ALL TIME then we are talking about there impact on hiphop.
In no particular order,
Run DMC- first rap record to go platinum, had many different achievements, brought real positive music unlike the shit today
Public enemy- Really not given the credit tehy truely deserve, as like dmc they rapped about real issues and wasnt about money like all the rappers today.
Nas- Yes, he did have a dry spell but ILLMATIC was a masterpiece, anyone who disses this album DOESNT know rap ok?
2pac- OF course id have to put 2pac in here, its a shame that all these new beats and lyrics are just all ripoffs of 2pacs songs, this guy had no trouble with writing lyrics that could trouble the mind and send out a real message. 2pac turned from a immature kid from cali and turned his power in the industry to try and send a message to kids in the hood. its a shame taht talent like taht had to die, u kno if pac was alive the rap game would be a lot different.
B.I.G- ? i presonally dont like this kid, fucknig idiot, didnt send out and message, didnt do anything for the community as far as im concerned. Although he was still a genius in the studio.
Mobb deep- Hey look if u know rap u know mobb deep, songs like survival of the fittest, give up the goods, oh man can u say fucking classics, i think ill leave it at that ,
Rakim- OH HOW could i miss this guy man, KING of freestyles, KING of battling, ya this is 50's inspiration for rapping. simply amazing.
NOTIBLE mentions ( these are NOT greatest rappers but just NOTIBLE MENTIONS GET IT?)- Say what the fuck you want about eminem he opened new doors to rappers like him or in other words, his race and how can eminem not have talent, hes hardworking and that song "stan" had to have some real fucknig thought put into it. With dre behind him (dre as another notible mention, as is the group NWA) i hope to see eminem producing and im looking forward to him making more albums.
50 cent- oh? thought after all taht i wouldnt mention this fucker. Ya i hate 21 questions too, but this kid has some crazy talent. and face it folks, he IS the future of rap.
In conclusion, if u dont like this list u can suck my balls. :D
I SEE YOU said the blind man to the deaf man -.-V
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
August 11 2003 12:32 GMT
#105
lol is that ur pick for a line?????? thats not even a direct diss, and even if it was, it sucks
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
August 11 2003 12:33 GMT
#106
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run dmc and public enemy are groups, not rappers.

tupac amari shakur was born and raised in New York City. he attended a performing arts school and performed under the name "MC New York". he didn't arrive on the west coast until he was in his 20's.

mobb deep is a group. without shook ones pt. 2, nobody would have even known who they were. the crap they put out afterwards solidified their previous anonymity to a new generation of rap music fans.

50 is a solid artist. he is not the future of anything.

saukrates is the future of rap, or, at the very least, the inheritor of creative/soulful rap in the mold of common.
JAM THE FUCKER!
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
August 11 2003 12:36 GMT
#107
dirk, ok ill use jay, u use eminem. we can go line for line. and lots of people think nas didnt eat jay. its rly about 50 50. ill eb waiting ur first line
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
MusiK[WG]
Profile Joined July 2003
United States54 Posts
August 11 2003 12:59 GMT
#108
lol i see y ur soo stuck on jay's dick and y u think hes good. To u good rap is about word play? lol well to me its shit that means somethin and makes sense and is real. Thats y i regard Pac as the greatest and far apart from whoeva is number 2.
im not even gonna continue with this thread anymore. Im arguin with someone who thinks jayz is the best of all time cuz he says shit like "Jay to the izzo" for shizzzzzzzzzzzle and " how u think i got the name hova, i've been reala the games over?" wut the fuck does that mean?? with that kinda taste im surprised u don't like them southern rappers.
Btw i'm not hatin on southernern rap...they got their own style i just don't like it. some pple like it others dont. im guessin alot of ppl like it since they makin all the money now.

lol@hovz again. u consider someone that uses wordplay as a good rapper. and the sad thing is he aint even good at that. Tell me one good deep meaninful track with a point that jayz has made recently??

both Nas and Eminem are far better than Jayz. And if it came to battlin Canibus will chew him up. All jay has is good dilivery of words. too bad he dont have original or meaninful words.

And to whoeva says jayz has stayed prominent for a long ass time and still makin money. thats not the issue here. if good rap means who makes the most money from sales than u can put jayz on the list cuz ppl like hovz keep buyin his shit and jayz knows wut the consumers want and like. not wuts necessarily good musik.

come to think of it hovz gimme me a line from jay that means somthin and original
plz
Girls suck for real. 1 advice, never get attached or fall in love with a girl. 99.9 of the time it will come back to haunt u. Be smart do it just for the nookie
Dirk
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1339 Posts
August 11 2003 13:00 GMT
#109
You're talking about just tight lines/lyrics right? Or are you talking about their battles/disses. When i said i could post up some eminem lines, i was referring to just hella tight lyrics of his.
Dont confuse me wit these suckas... cuz when I spit, you here more OOOs than a skip to my lou move.. at the ruckers - Lloyd Banks
ejai63
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2101 Posts
August 11 2003 13:04 GMT
#110
On August 10 2003 20:39 BlatantBlaZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
dre has sold like 20 million albums. cant argue with success


To quote dre from his and eminem's collaboration "Say what you say",
"over 80 million records sold, and I ain't have to do it with 10 or 11 year olds"

-_- Learn something new everyday.


thats as a producer, not as a soloist
1-10-5
Dirk
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-11 13:25:57
August 11 2003 13:24 GMT
#111
im not even gonna continue with this thread anymore. Im arguin with someone who thinks jayz is the best of all time cuz he says shit like "Jay to the izzo" for shizzzzzzzzzzzle and " how u think i got the name hova, i've been reala the games over?" wut the fuck does that mean??

LOL

Well anyway, since it hasnt been clarified yet what kinda lines we're talking about ill just throw one out there.

"....Wrap you in rope and plastic, stab you with broken glass, and have you with open gashes straped to a soakened matress/
Coke and acid, black magic, cloaks and daggers, fuck the planet till it spins on a broken axis/
I'm so bananas im showin up to your open casket to fill it full of explosive gases and close it back with a lit match in it, while i sit back and just hope it catches/
blow you to fragments, laugh, roll you then smoke the ashes." - Eminem, Hellbound.
Dont confuse me wit these suckas... cuz when I spit, you here more OOOs than a skip to my lou move.. at the ruckers - Lloyd Banks
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
August 11 2003 13:28 GMT
#112
any lines that are sick or witty, heres an example:

big l- ask beavis i get nothin but head (butthead)
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
August 11 2003 13:29 GMT
#113
musik , i said big was the best u idiot. keep ramblin on cuz u dont know shit about rap. when u wanna go lien for line and get proven wrong, let me know
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
August 11 2003 13:30 GMT
#114
dirk that line rhymes and flows smooth, but it doesnt rly make u say "damn, and rewind the track to here it again". it doesnt rly say anythign sick, it just flows smooth
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
Dirk
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1339 Posts
August 11 2003 13:57 GMT
#115
Hmm.. i dunno about really witty one liners. When im referring to a tight line of his, im basically talking about the creative way he can put together his thoughts. The stuff he says makes sense, is creative, gets you thinking, and rhymes. The line i typed out.. sounds much better when you hear it. When i heard it i was like "damn wtf? did he just say he'll blow your body to fragments and smoke your ashes? and made it all flow perfectly?".

Another one off the top of my head was off the underground 5 star general.
"You better run, Cuz im probably the only one crazy enough to shoot your ass with a knife and stab you with a gun"

Post up some of one of Jay Z's lines, i wanna see what kind witty lines ur talking about.
Dont confuse me wit these suckas... cuz when I spit, you here more OOOs than a skip to my lou move.. at the ruckers - Lloyd Banks
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28642 Posts
August 11 2003 14:32 GMT
#116
saïan supa crew

cept they're a group of people !

and cept I cant figure out their lyrics lzozl but great flow yes
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MusiK[WG]
Profile Joined July 2003
United States54 Posts
August 11 2003 14:40 GMT
#117
On August 11 2003 22:28 HovZ wrote:
any lines that are sick or witty, heres an example:

big l- ask beavis i get nothin but head (butthead)


lol Hovz ur retarded man. all this time this was ur idea of good rap??
lolz. sad shit...anyways heres another line that don't mean shit but to u its "good rap"

Rakim : "and stick my dick in ur ear, and fuck what u heard"

Canibus : "Fuck yall you dont impress me and no one can test me
An Emcee so ill, I got AIDS scared to catch me"

Canibus : "Who in the hell wanna battle, the ill mathematical?
My motherfuckin' brain is IBM compatible"


Canibus: "I existed, in the garden of Eden gettin lifted
stickin dick to Eve before she was Adams mistress
Before Christ created Christmas, I been in lyrical fitness
The Canibus is spitten till' he's spitless"

Canibus : "my only concern when I approach you, is to roast you
I smoke you and whoever you standing close to
and make every man in your crew deny that he knows you"

Canibus: "Poisonous poems travel through walkman headphones
into your dome Osteoperosis your bones, Who's the nicest nigga you know in the year two triple-oh
Spit turn to icicles in the mid air and slit your throat
Drain your carcass dry rip out your heart bitch
I write rhymes using your blood for my ink cartridges
Paleoanthropologists, polish the bones
of rap artist after I dip in my hydrochloric waters"

is this the sort of nonsensical shit u think makes a good rapper?? lol
when u started postin on this topic i considered u a 4 on a scale of 1 to 10 on ur knowledge of rap. i now regard u as 1, and thats cuz ur so head strong on thinkin u actually think u know shit. keep watchin ur mtv and renewin ur subcription to the source and the numerous hiphop mags u get
Girls suck for real. 1 advice, never get attached or fall in love with a girl. 99.9 of the time it will come back to haunt u. Be smart do it just for the nookie
ComicBookArtist
Profile Joined January 2003
157 Posts
August 11 2003 14:47 GMT
#118
At least Reakwon isn't a sell out like JayZ.
HovZ
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1917 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-11 14:57:56
August 11 2003 14:54 GMT
#119
musik ur idea of a good line must be "u aint got the skilsl to eat another niggas ass like me" anwyays im done responding to your bullshit. dirk heres a few:

niggas dont get the picture till the weapons is drawn

yall dont paint pictures yall all trace me

like short sleeves i bear arms

said she liek my necklace, started relaxin, now thats wtf i call a chain reaction

No more reasonable doubt ive proven to be da illest MC, Somthing's wrong wit ya motor skills cause y'all ain't movin me

About his whereabouts I wasn't convinced, So I kept feeding her money 'til her shit started to make sense

fukin with me, u gotta drop a mil/amil, cuz if u gonna cop soemthin u gotta cop for real

bullets squeeze by you/bayou like lousiana man

get ur mind right or get it on ur left sleeve

i can go on forever, if u want more let me know
z7-Rain : D Block is a rly good rapper, cosmo : mobb deep is a rly good rapper, cosmo : that song notorious thugs by bone and andre nickatana is sick
Jar_Ly
Profile Joined March 2003
Cuba133 Posts
August 11 2003 15:03 GMT
#120
i didn't read the entire post, but everybody seems to be forgotting some of the best for me: Method Man,Red Man, Busta Rhymes, Laurin Hill, Mystikal. (2Pac onws)!

Jar_Ly
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