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[Patch 9.3] AD Itemization Changes General Discussion

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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-21 00:20:14
February 05 2019 19:13 GMT
#1
Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.

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Patch 9.3: Live on Feb. 06, 2019


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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
February 05 2019 19:16 GMT
#2
According to the bugfix list there's no Rek'sai bug fixes Sux. Maybe if we're lucky it's undocumented.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 05 2019 19:46 GMT
#3
Putting essence flair on an item better suited for bruizers is pretty bold. But tbh is probably fine since buffing crit adc is a nerf to every other class in the game anyway
Carrilord has arrived.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 05 2019 19:47 GMT
#4
Riot bug fixing champs that don't sell skins, pfft not gonna happen.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35139 Posts
February 05 2019 19:48 GMT
#5
It's actually a worse item. The item is more expensive and less gold efficient than old ER, even on champions like Riven who got 0 value from the mana related bits.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-05 19:51:18
February 05 2019 19:50 GMT
#6
wonder whats gonna happen to lucian/ez/( i ban vayne) every game

probably not much?
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4116 Posts
February 05 2019 21:21 GMT
#7
the assassins might fall even more now with the new dancer
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
February 05 2019 22:22 GMT
#8
So is akali now trash tier, or balanced?

- Cass change is dumb, it could even be considered a buff if she's ahead because of the ratio change.
- Essence reaver looks niche, because they nerfed the damage but it gives a lot of crit. Guess we're seeing Xayah build it again.
- Stormrazor has become a strong lan8ng item for the likes of Cait and Ashe but scaling has been gutted to the point it might not be worth it.
- ADC meta is back bois, I'm so happy to finally shit on tanks again.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
February 05 2019 23:05 GMT
#9
No Urgot changes. No Karthus changes.

I sometimes wonder about how riot thinks about making balance decisions. If a Karthus skin comes out next patch or we finally get star guardian urgot then these changes can be evaluated as cynical cash grabs. If the skins don’t come then I have no idea.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4116 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-06 00:11:28
February 06 2019 00:09 GMT
#10
On February 06 2019 08:05 General_Winter wrote:
No Urgot changes. No Karthus changes.

I sometimes wonder about how riot thinks about making balance decisions. If a Karthus skin comes out next patch or we finally get star guardian urgot then these changes can be evaluated as cynical cash grabs. If the skins don’t come then I have no idea.

I always thought that Karthus ult is detached from league's design and it should have range like pantheon's and TF's ults. All league globals have some drawbacks like being a skill shot or range restricted, only karthus can press R without thinking about it
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
February 06 2019 00:13 GMT
#11
I think akali is still pretty good. might just not be a first pick and blind it into anything pick anymore
TL/SKT
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-06 00:55:35
February 06 2019 00:54 GMT
#12
On February 06 2019 09:13 dsyxelic wrote:
I think akali is still pretty good. might just not be a first pick and blind it into anything pick anymore


Who the fuck was blind picking and first pickin akali on 9.2?? She's dead pretty sure. Already was dogshit in soloq, and now (she was already starting to fade in competitive btw) she's fucked in almost every lane in comp as well.
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
February 06 2019 00:56 GMT
#13
Now that Camille is nerfed, Kayn's gonna be SSSS tier in LPL :D
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dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-06 00:59:12
February 06 2019 00:58 GMT
#14
On February 06 2019 09:54 AdsMoFro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2019 09:13 dsyxelic wrote:
I think akali is still pretty good. might just not be a first pick and blind it into anything pick anymore


Who the fuck was blind picking and first pickin akali on 9.2?? She's dead pretty sure. Already was dogshit in soloq, and now (she was already starting to fade in competitive btw) she's fucked in almost every lane in comp as well.


um like every single pro team in the lck?

by dead i'm assuming you are ignoring lck because last i checked she was first pick or ban pretty much every match at least among the top teams
TL/SKT
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-06 01:08:42
February 06 2019 01:07 GMT
#15
On February 06 2019 09:58 dsyxelic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2019 09:54 AdsMoFro wrote:
On February 06 2019 09:13 dsyxelic wrote:
I think akali is still pretty good. might just not be a first pick and blind it into anything pick anymore


Who the fuck was blind picking and first pickin akali on 9.2?? She's dead pretty sure. Already was dogshit in soloq, and now (she was already starting to fade in competitive btw) she's fucked in almost every lane in comp as well.


um like every single pro team in the lck?

by dead i'm assuming you are ignoring lck because last i checked she was first pick or ban pretty much every match at least among the top teams


Ah, you were referring to competitive. Yeah, I think she won't be first pick/ban worthy anymore. Would have to see how much it hurts her but we just saw last week in i think it was the Afreeca game how important her healing was. She's fp-able cause she can be flexed between mid/top but idk if that's going to be possible. There are big changes in the top lane meta coming too so...too early to say but soloq at the least, she's fucked.
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dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
February 06 2019 01:20 GMT
#16
On February 06 2019 10:07 AdsMoFro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2019 09:58 dsyxelic wrote:
On February 06 2019 09:54 AdsMoFro wrote:
On February 06 2019 09:13 dsyxelic wrote:
I think akali is still pretty good. might just not be a first pick and blind it into anything pick anymore


Who the fuck was blind picking and first pickin akali on 9.2?? She's dead pretty sure. Already was dogshit in soloq, and now (she was already starting to fade in competitive btw) she's fucked in almost every lane in comp as well.


um like every single pro team in the lck?

by dead i'm assuming you are ignoring lck because last i checked she was first pick or ban pretty much every match at least among the top teams


Ah, you were referring to competitive. Yeah, I think she won't be first pick/ban worthy anymore. Would have to see how much it hurts her but we just saw last week in i think it was the Afreeca game how important her healing was. She's fp-able cause she can be flexed between mid/top but idk if that's going to be possible. There are big changes in the top lane meta coming too so...too early to say but soloq at the least, she's fucked.


I still think she will be high priority. Healing/turret shroud hurts but its not enough to make her garbage tier from first pick or ban status every single game. Though this is mainly through the context of LCK since they seem to put the most priority onto Akali with good success.

As for soloq, its mainly just bad players but laning power definitely matters more there so it should hurt.
TL/SKT
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
February 06 2019 01:33 GMT
#17
On February 06 2019 10:20 dsyxelic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2019 10:07 AdsMoFro wrote:
On February 06 2019 09:58 dsyxelic wrote:
On February 06 2019 09:54 AdsMoFro wrote:
On February 06 2019 09:13 dsyxelic wrote:
I think akali is still pretty good. might just not be a first pick and blind it into anything pick anymore


Who the fuck was blind picking and first pickin akali on 9.2?? She's dead pretty sure. Already was dogshit in soloq, and now (she was already starting to fade in competitive btw) she's fucked in almost every lane in comp as well.


um like every single pro team in the lck?

by dead i'm assuming you are ignoring lck because last i checked she was first pick or ban pretty much every match at least among the top teams


Ah, you were referring to competitive. Yeah, I think she won't be first pick/ban worthy anymore. Would have to see how much it hurts her but we just saw last week in i think it was the Afreeca game how important her healing was. She's fp-able cause she can be flexed between mid/top but idk if that's going to be possible. There are big changes in the top lane meta coming too so...too early to say but soloq at the least, she's fucked.


I still think she will be high priority. Healing/turret shroud hurts but its not enough to make her garbage tier from first pick or ban status every single game. Though this is mainly through the context of LCK since they seem to put the most priority onto Akali with good success.

As for soloq, its mainly just bad players but laning power definitely matters more there so it should hurt.


If she does stay relevant after these nerfs...fucking hell how does Riot justify these champ designs and number man... She's getting hammered patch after patch and still could be relevant.
Que Sera Sera
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
February 06 2019 01:40 GMT
#18
On February 06 2019 10:33 AdsMoFro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2019 10:20 dsyxelic wrote:
On February 06 2019 10:07 AdsMoFro wrote:
On February 06 2019 09:58 dsyxelic wrote:
On February 06 2019 09:54 AdsMoFro wrote:
On February 06 2019 09:13 dsyxelic wrote:
I think akali is still pretty good. might just not be a first pick and blind it into anything pick anymore


Who the fuck was blind picking and first pickin akali on 9.2?? She's dead pretty sure. Already was dogshit in soloq, and now (she was already starting to fade in competitive btw) she's fucked in almost every lane in comp as well.


um like every single pro team in the lck?

by dead i'm assuming you are ignoring lck because last i checked she was first pick or ban pretty much every match at least among the top teams


Ah, you were referring to competitive. Yeah, I think she won't be first pick/ban worthy anymore. Would have to see how much it hurts her but we just saw last week in i think it was the Afreeca game how important her healing was. She's fp-able cause she can be flexed between mid/top but idk if that's going to be possible. There are big changes in the top lane meta coming too so...too early to say but soloq at the least, she's fucked.


I still think she will be high priority. Healing/turret shroud hurts but its not enough to make her garbage tier from first pick or ban status every single game. Though this is mainly through the context of LCK since they seem to put the most priority onto Akali with good success.

As for soloq, its mainly just bad players but laning power definitely matters more there so it should hurt.


If she does stay relevant after these nerfs...fucking hell how does Riot justify these champ designs and number man... She's getting hammered patch after patch and still could be relevant.


I think these were good changes compared to the ones previously. They actually target the parts that made her broken af. I'm hoping she's just ok to good now
TL/SKT
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-06 02:07:11
February 06 2019 02:06 GMT
#19
On February 06 2019 10:40 dsyxelic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2019 10:33 AdsMoFro wrote:
On February 06 2019 10:20 dsyxelic wrote:
On February 06 2019 10:07 AdsMoFro wrote:
On February 06 2019 09:58 dsyxelic wrote:
On February 06 2019 09:54 AdsMoFro wrote:
On February 06 2019 09:13 dsyxelic wrote:
I think akali is still pretty good. might just not be a first pick and blind it into anything pick anymore


Who the fuck was blind picking and first pickin akali on 9.2?? She's dead pretty sure. Already was dogshit in soloq, and now (she was already starting to fade in competitive btw) she's fucked in almost every lane in comp as well.


um like every single pro team in the lck?

by dead i'm assuming you are ignoring lck because last i checked she was first pick or ban pretty much every match at least among the top teams


Ah, you were referring to competitive. Yeah, I think she won't be first pick/ban worthy anymore. Would have to see how much it hurts her but we just saw last week in i think it was the Afreeca game how important her healing was. She's fp-able cause she can be flexed between mid/top but idk if that's going to be possible. There are big changes in the top lane meta coming too so...too early to say but soloq at the least, she's fucked.


I still think she will be high priority. Healing/turret shroud hurts but its not enough to make her garbage tier from first pick or ban status every single game. Though this is mainly through the context of LCK since they seem to put the most priority onto Akali with good success.

As for soloq, its mainly just bad players but laning power definitely matters more there so it should hurt.


If she does stay relevant after these nerfs...fucking hell how does Riot justify these champ designs and number man... She's getting hammered patch after patch and still could be relevant.


I think these were good changes compared to the ones previously. They actually target the parts that made her broken af. I'm hoping she's just ok to good now


Yeah but once again Riot shows a complete unwillingness to nerf the most obviously broken shit out of a champ's kit and it becomes dogshit for soloq. They nerf all the surrounding shit (making the champ trash for soloq but still fine for comp) and then finally nerf the root problem and the champ (usually) falls out of competitive favor and is troll pick in soloq.

You'd think they'd learn by now but.... /shrug
Que Sera Sera
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
February 06 2019 02:20 GMT
#20
On February 06 2019 11:06 AdsMoFro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2019 10:40 dsyxelic wrote:
On February 06 2019 10:33 AdsMoFro wrote:
On February 06 2019 10:20 dsyxelic wrote:
On February 06 2019 10:07 AdsMoFro wrote:
On February 06 2019 09:58 dsyxelic wrote:
On February 06 2019 09:54 AdsMoFro wrote:
On February 06 2019 09:13 dsyxelic wrote:
I think akali is still pretty good. might just not be a first pick and blind it into anything pick anymore


Who the fuck was blind picking and first pickin akali on 9.2?? She's dead pretty sure. Already was dogshit in soloq, and now (she was already starting to fade in competitive btw) she's fucked in almost every lane in comp as well.


um like every single pro team in the lck?

by dead i'm assuming you are ignoring lck because last i checked she was first pick or ban pretty much every match at least among the top teams


Ah, you were referring to competitive. Yeah, I think she won't be first pick/ban worthy anymore. Would have to see how much it hurts her but we just saw last week in i think it was the Afreeca game how important her healing was. She's fp-able cause she can be flexed between mid/top but idk if that's going to be possible. There are big changes in the top lane meta coming too so...too early to say but soloq at the least, she's fucked.


I still think she will be high priority. Healing/turret shroud hurts but its not enough to make her garbage tier from first pick or ban status every single game. Though this is mainly through the context of LCK since they seem to put the most priority onto Akali with good success.

As for soloq, its mainly just bad players but laning power definitely matters more there so it should hurt.


If she does stay relevant after these nerfs...fucking hell how does Riot justify these champ designs and number man... She's getting hammered patch after patch and still could be relevant.


I think these were good changes compared to the ones previously. They actually target the parts that made her broken af. I'm hoping she's just ok to good now


Yeah but once again Riot shows a complete unwillingness to nerf the most obviously broken shit out of a champ's kit and it becomes dogshit for soloq. They nerf all the surrounding shit (making the champ trash for soloq but still fine for comp) and then finally nerf the root problem and the champ (usually) falls out of competitive favor and is troll pick in soloq.

You'd think they'd learn by now but.... /shrug


I call that the Kalista where it took them years to just nerf the damage to monsters lol
TL/SKT
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