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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
February 09 2019 17:12 GMT
#61
On February 09 2019 03:03 General_Winter wrote:
A little off topic, but public service announcement. GSL is back cast by tasteless and artosis and the meta seems to be favoring pretty fun and exciting games. Wouldn’t post that on most league forums, but I figure with the roots of team liquid it’s ok here.

It's because they went back to the good GSL logo.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4116 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-09 20:59:22
February 09 2019 20:59 GMT
#62
When both Sylas and the enemy are low health, what does his W prioritize ? to heal him, to do more damage or both?
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35140 Posts
February 09 2019 23:40 GMT
#63
On February 10 2019 05:59 M2 wrote:
When both Sylas and the enemy are low health, what does his W prioritize ? to heal him, to do more damage or both?

Both.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-18 17:00:44
February 18 2019 17:00 GMT
#64
https://m.weibo.cn/status/4341197633680433?

Kayle/Morg rework leak
Que Sera Sera
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
February 18 2019 17:36 GMT
#65
Looks cool, more anime/cartoon faces. Guess this means I can't carry myself with Morg support anymore.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9184 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-18 18:56:00
February 18 2019 18:53 GMT
#66
gweilo verison



Morg Q, E and R look the same? I was hoping they'll make some changes to her ult.
You're now breathing manually
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 18 2019 19:21 GMT
#67
Morgana's face looks like a rehash of Kai'sa's/Xayah's.
The game has rotated through art styles with time so it's natural that champions in the same "era" share similarities, but that one's pretty blatant.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 18 2019 19:41 GMT
#68
I’m just really glad black shield wasn’t removed because I had suspected it would be
Carrilord has arrived.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
February 19 2019 01:56 GMT
#69
Next patch delayed to 21st due to holiday in America.
Que Sera Sera
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
February 19 2019 04:25 GMT
#70
I like the generic mobile game look.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
February 19 2019 08:03 GMT
#71
Kayle's new model is horrible but Morgana look pretty dope.....
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 19 2019 08:25 GMT
#72
I'm curious what they will do with Unmasked Kayle.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
February 19 2019 09:51 GMT
#73
Real question is how is riot gonna balance another DPS mage...Imma guess poorly. Either trash in soloq good in comp or useless in both.
Que Sera Sera
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 19 2019 12:28 GMT
#74
On February 19 2019 18:51 AdsMoFro wrote:
Real question is how is riot gonna balance another DPS mage...Imma guess poorly. Either trash in soloq good in comp or useless in both.

Idk have they announced what she scales off?

The problem with Azir isn't his dps, its the kit. And I think that if Kaylee keeps her immunity that actually smooths the power curve from Silver to Challenger.
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35140 Posts
February 19 2019 12:29 GMT
#75
On February 19 2019 21:28 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2019 18:51 AdsMoFro wrote:
Real question is how is riot gonna balance another DPS mage...Imma guess poorly. Either trash in soloq good in comp or useless in both.

Idk have they announced what she scales off?

The problem with Azir isn't his dps, its the kit. And I think that if Kaylee keeps her immunity that actually smooths the power curve from Silver to Challenger.

I believe they're talking about Ryze.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 19 2019 13:36 GMT
#76
On February 19 2019 21:29 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2019 21:28 cLutZ wrote:
On February 19 2019 18:51 AdsMoFro wrote:
Real question is how is riot gonna balance another DPS mage...Imma guess poorly. Either trash in soloq good in comp or useless in both.

Idk have they announced what she scales off?

The problem with Azir isn't his dps, its the kit. And I think that if Kaylee keeps her immunity that actually smooths the power curve from Silver to Challenger.

I believe they're talking about Ryze.


Well it should be both. Kayle is a sustained DPS mage. Also, Ryze's biggest problem is that they have never figured out how to replace the power from his old single target Q without breaking everything else. Obviously his current Q is an absolutely trash spell with its no effects and no CC, like a super crappy Ez Q. And the rework to a semiglobal ult was obviously a disaster for the "Either trash in soloq good in comp or useless in both" problem.
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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-19 13:44:37
February 19 2019 13:43 GMT
#77
Ryze/Azir/Cass(to a lesser extent) have all been troublesome competitive balance champs. Don't have much hope in Riot's team to figure Kayle out assuming she doesn't get left in the niche pool of champs.
Que Sera Sera
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
February 19 2019 13:55 GMT
#78
Why does Morgana's ult look like it fires Q's?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35140 Posts
February 19 2019 14:45 GMT
#79
On February 19 2019 22:55 Ansibled wrote:
Why does Morgana's ult look like it fires Q's?

Recycled Doom Bot animations?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 19 2019 15:37 GMT
#80
On February 19 2019 22:43 AdsMoFro wrote:
Ryze/Azir/Cass(to a lesser extent) have all been troublesome competitive balance champs. Don't have much hope in Riot's team to figure Kayle out assuming she doesn't get left in the niche pool of champs.


I think Cass is a good model to look at. She scales very well with skill, but does so linearly like most AD Carries. So even though Challenger Cass is much stronger its not insanely stronger when compared to just how much better Challenger players are. This is similar (IMO) to how Orianna was when she was the midlane staple of the competitive scene. She scales well with skill, but that scaling still occurs very much when one goes from Bronze to Plat. The grounding implementation for Cass is IMO a good deal of that. One of Riot's best more recent changes to a champion.
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