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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
January 31 2019 15:51 GMT
#3221
Lol... The pentagon said it would send more troops, but it also said there isn't an emergency.

https://qz.com/1536879/trump-border-wall-isnt-an-emergency-pentagon-tells-congress/

For example, they said US troops there aren’t operating on an emergency footing. ”Given the threat description that surrounded this order,” are the service members on the border getting the extra bonus that active duty troops receive when they’re deployed to an area near hostile fire or mine explosions, asked Joe Courtney, a Connecticut Democrat. “No, sir,” responded vice admiral Michael Gilday, operations director for the Joint Staff, the senior Pentagon council that advises the White House.

Paul Mitchell, a Michigan Republican, asked what the military is doing at the border that couldn’t be handled by the Department of Homeland Security, if they had the funding for it.

Nothing, was the short answer. “None of the capabilities that we are providing are combat capabilities,” Gilday said. “It’s not a war zone along the border.”
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 31 2019 16:31 GMT
#3222
On February 01 2019 00:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Lol... The pentagon said it would send more troops, but it also said there isn't an emergency.

https://qz.com/1536879/trump-border-wall-isnt-an-emergency-pentagon-tells-congress/

Show nested quote +
For example, they said US troops there aren’t operating on an emergency footing. ”Given the threat description that surrounded this order,” are the service members on the border getting the extra bonus that active duty troops receive when they’re deployed to an area near hostile fire or mine explosions, asked Joe Courtney, a Connecticut Democrat. “No, sir,” responded vice admiral Michael Gilday, operations director for the Joint Staff, the senior Pentagon council that advises the White House.

Paul Mitchell, a Michigan Republican, asked what the military is doing at the border that couldn’t be handled by the Department of Homeland Security, if they had the funding for it.

Nothing, was the short answer. “None of the capabilities that we are providing are combat capabilities,” Gilday said. “It’s not a war zone along the border.”


Which is interesting because under that "civil works" law, it would seem that there needs to be a deployment preceding the wall construction - the wall has to be in support of the deployment. The military cant just go to the border for the purpose of building the wall (at least under that law) - there needs to be some independent military deployment which the wall then supports. Which may also mean it would need to be a temporary wall?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23293 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-31 18:46:49
January 31 2019 18:46 GMT
#3223
Some people are wondering how Trump can get his wall given the circumstances.

Sparking a regional war in South America (starting in Venezuela) could certainly help make the case we need to worry about the border else we become Europe.

Venezuela isn't Yemen yet, but a little civil war, a little US sponsored Colombian death squads/cartel gangs, a sprinkle of CIA and we may still be able to get there.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23293 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-31 20:35:08
January 31 2019 20:33 GMT
#3224
xpost from the Venezuela blog:

There's a lot of bullshit and clearly a narrative in corporate/western media on the Venezuela situation. This is the best (short) summary of the situation I've seen. It's a start for those that want to be aware of if one wants to begin to know what is happening.

What Has Happened in Venezuela Is a Coup. Trump’s Denial Is Dangerous

Juan Guaidó has declared himself president. Now the US and rightwing regimes may seek an excuse to intervene in support.

At the dawn of the 21st century, Hugo Chavez invoked Bolívar’s promise and when the poor, black, Amerindian people of Venezuela returned him to power, time and again, especially after the failed US-backed coup of 2002, he too radicalised his stance against the mighty empire Bolivar had only speculated about, America. Again, the promise was realised only in part. Some might say the revolution has been betrayed or stalled during the rule of his successor Nicolás Maduro. No one can deny Venezuela’s problems. The very source of its magic in the 1970s, oil, has proven its downfall. Chavez did not win his country’s independence from oil and its geopolitics.

Crisis loomed when global prices fell, production stagnated, the value of the currency dropped, and under Maduro, dependence on imports and retail monopolies meant shortages that hurt many. That responsibility lies with the government and the industrialist rightwing opposition. But to think that this opposition, revived by Juan Guaidó’s self-proclamation spectacle, acts out of genuine concern for the poor, black people and Amerindians who empowered themselves during the years of the Bolivarian revolution would be foolish.

Enter Donald Trump: megalomaniac, erratic, liar. Calling out the interventionism of previous US administrations, which had been constant in their hatred for Chavez and their attempts to regain influence in the region, Trump promised to put an end to all such shenanigans. But on Wednesday, vice-president Mike Pence saluted Guaidó’s self-appointment, observing that although Trump disliked intervening elsewhere, he “has always had a very different view of our hemisphere”. That’s an explicit invocation of the Monroe doctrine under which the US has held it as its responsibility to intervene in the Americas, which it sees as its backyard.

Trump swiftly recognised Guaidó as the interim president of Venezuela, and was followed by a cohort of Latin American presidents, all-white, upper-class leaders now spearheading the new reactionary wave in the region: Brazil’s Jair Bolsonaro, Argentina’s Mauricio Macri, Colombia’s Iván Duque and Chile’s Sebastián Piñera. They’ll proclaim themselves saviours of democracy and humanitarianism, the liars. Draping themselves in the robes of the liberators of yesteryear, just as Guaidó draped himself in the image of Chavez and Bolívar while holding a constitution with the latter’s image on its cover, they’ll happily support further US sanctions, paramilitary forces training Venezuela’s opposition in the torture tactics that displaced 7 million people in Colombia, or using “lawfare” in pan-American institutions just as happened to Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva and Dilma Rousseff in Brazil, Manuel Zelaya in Honduras and Fernando Lugo in Paraguay.

Expect such measures to have limited purchase. Washington knows it. Then, Trump and the others will be ready to go for the more muscular approach. Not by accident, this could also benefit Trump as elections approach or if he is cornered by investigations and impeachment. War distracts and makes money. Only this won’t be a regional plunder: China and Russia, both with key interests in Venezuela and elsewhere in the region, have followed Bolivia, Mexico, Uruguay and Cuba to call Guaidó’s stunt by its real name: a coup. Russia has indicated it would come to the defence of its ally. In Venezuela, many who may be critical of Maduro but fear most the return of the rightwing opposition to power are unlikely to cheer the newly converted humanitarians.


venezuelanalysis.com
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
January 31 2019 23:56 GMT
#3225
That link is a Maduro funded website, just so you know.
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 01 2019 00:16 GMT
#3226
It it reads like Pravda, and argues like Pravda, it's probably the same thing as Pravda.

I hope they have a widely distributed print edition to help seduce the masses into Maduro love. Venezuelans are having trouble finding toilet paper to buy.
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 01 2019 01:13 GMT
#3227
Imagine that - didnt need negotiations, a shutdown, OR an emergency declaration. The wall is already being built.



If I were a Republican I sincerely hope that I wouldn't bend over and accept these lies.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23293 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-01 01:35:08
February 01 2019 01:14 GMT
#3228
On February 01 2019 08:56 ShoCkeyy wrote:
That link is a Maduro funded website, just so you know.


That's not as well documented as you make it sound but it also doesn't matter.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jan/28/venezuela-coup-trump-juan-guaido

On February 01 2019 09:16 Danglars wrote:
It it reads like Pravda, and argues like Pravda, it's probably the same thing as Pravda.

I hope they have a widely distributed print edition to help seduce the masses into Maduro love. Venezuelans are having trouble finding toilet paper to buy.


lol like the gun thing I'm not sure you read it or processed it. They are no Maduro fan.

From the piece:

There is plenty to criticise Maduro for: late or misguided economic measures, corruption, power-hoarding. But these criticisms cannot disguise a coup or justify an intervention that, if and when it comes, would engulf us all. Trump counts on Colombia’s Iván Duque, Alvaro Uribe’s appointee, and Brazil’s neo-fascists to support this, contributing troops of their own if needed. A neo-fascist runs one of the Americas’ powerhouses in Brazil; a narcissistic liar afraid of being painted into a corner runs the other. That combination is toxic. War in the name of humanity may tempt them, as it did the more liberal leaders of the past. But this time the stakes are higher. Venezuela’s coup is a threat to the entire world.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
February 01 2019 01:59 GMT
#3229
On January 31 2019 03:24 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2019 03:06 Doodsmack wrote:
On January 31 2019 01:46 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 31 2019 01:36 Doodsmack wrote:
On January 30 2019 23:45 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 30 2019 23:42 Doodsmack wrote:
On January 30 2019 08:03 xDaunt wrote:
On January 30 2019 07:56 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 30 2019 07:44 xDaunt wrote:
On January 30 2019 07:05 GreenHorizons wrote:
[quote]

Exactly where I said it was going when it started. You have to be pretty deep into the qanon conspiracies if you think Hillary or anyone else will be held accountable to any significant degree. The best you got was Podesta (the fat one) stepping down.

Why? I cited multiple reports last week that implicated the Hillary campaign in fostering the Trump/Russia collusion narrative (not to mention the fact that Clintons are connected to damned near everyone on the wrong side of this mess). Those reports have nothing to do with qanon, unless you take the position that Q is real and working with the same elements of the Trump administration that are leaking things to the press.


Your information tends to be sketch but I have to admit I don't bother reading it most of the time (regarding Hillary) because I think the idea that Trump or Hillary will be held seriously accountable for their shit is pretty ridiculous and takes a suspension of disbelief I haven't been able to maintain since grade school.

I think it was in one of those movies about the 2000 election (could have been a comedy sketch or completely different movie) where it clicked for me. When they were basically saying that "it doesn't matter what the truth is, the system can't handle the truth so we have to sweep this gross abuse under the rug to protect America"

Then I noticed shit like that everywhere. School, workplace, politics, media, entertainment, sports, EVERYWHERE.

That's how I was able to predict the outcome so well so far so far out.

When I said "the best you got is Podesta" what I meant wasn't that was your best evidence, I meant that's your trophy head for all this, you might have another pleb or two but there is 0 chance you get Hillary to be accountable even if there's video of her beating a human baby to death with a baby panda and a crowd of witnesses cheering her on.

The system doesn't work that way, losing face and not being President was her punishment, be content with that or be disappointed later is what I'm saying.

As to Hillary specifically, I really don't know whether she's going to get her just desserts. I tend to agree that the most probable outcome is that she does not. But then again, we're still young in the game. Mueller has obviously paralyzed the DOJ and any kind of inquiry into malfeasance. Additionally, I want to see what Barr does after he's confirmed. Even if Hillary isn't touched, I do fully expect various current and former government officials to get prosecuted for one thing or another as it pertains to the Russia investigation. If nothing else, it needs to happen simply to restore faith in the DOJ and the American justice system.


I get that there conspiracies on the anti-Trump, pro-Mueller side, but I'm not entirely sure that justifies making every speculative logical leap you possibly can on the other side.


Both sides are delusional imo for the reasons I mentioned before. I don't know how you all maintain your disbelief. Like doesn't it bother you that there was never any resolution to the Manafort-Assange meeting that never happened?

Seems the libs shake that off as easy as Republicans shake off the lies they are told


There certainly have been media stories on Mueller that have been debunked. But we have proof of some very shady things happening (e.g. Kushner meeting with head of major Russian bank during transition, and the bank publicly said the meeting was for business purposes, while Kushner said it wasn't), which warrants an investigation.


That wasn't really my question or my point? Unless you meant to demonstrate it?

On January 31 2019 01:38 Doodsmack wrote:
This looks all fine and dandy, a day after Trump's FBI director, CIA director, and DNI testified to Congress.





War in Venezuela, War in Iran, War in Syria, War in Yemen, Everybody get's a War!

Also Vaccinate your kids, cuz I guess that's still a thing

If you're cold you should know that the Paris Climate Accord isn't going to cut it so if your fav doesn't back a GND of epic proportion we're all fucked


I took your point to be that that particular news story is evidence that the whole thing is a conspiracy theory. I responded by saying that despite the conspiracy theories that do exist, there are serious matters worth investigating.


No, my point was that it doesn't matter how many times stories like that come out for both sides neither side sees they are being played for clicks, or if they see it they don't recognize the pervasiveness and corrosiveness to liberty, or if they recognize it they care more about partisanship and "civility" than accountability and transparency.

EDIT: I know some of you politics thread folks read here, if you want a stark example of climate change Mongolia is a microcosm on the frontline and scary AF


What's going on in Mongolia?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23293 Posts
February 01 2019 02:06 GMT
#3230
On February 01 2019 10:59 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2019 03:24 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 31 2019 03:06 Doodsmack wrote:
On January 31 2019 01:46 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 31 2019 01:36 Doodsmack wrote:
On January 30 2019 23:45 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 30 2019 23:42 Doodsmack wrote:
On January 30 2019 08:03 xDaunt wrote:
On January 30 2019 07:56 GreenHorizons wrote:
On January 30 2019 07:44 xDaunt wrote:
[quote]
Why? I cited multiple reports last week that implicated the Hillary campaign in fostering the Trump/Russia collusion narrative (not to mention the fact that Clintons are connected to damned near everyone on the wrong side of this mess). Those reports have nothing to do with qanon, unless you take the position that Q is real and working with the same elements of the Trump administration that are leaking things to the press.


Your information tends to be sketch but I have to admit I don't bother reading it most of the time (regarding Hillary) because I think the idea that Trump or Hillary will be held seriously accountable for their shit is pretty ridiculous and takes a suspension of disbelief I haven't been able to maintain since grade school.

I think it was in one of those movies about the 2000 election (could have been a comedy sketch or completely different movie) where it clicked for me. When they were basically saying that "it doesn't matter what the truth is, the system can't handle the truth so we have to sweep this gross abuse under the rug to protect America"

Then I noticed shit like that everywhere. School, workplace, politics, media, entertainment, sports, EVERYWHERE.

That's how I was able to predict the outcome so well so far so far out.

When I said "the best you got is Podesta" what I meant wasn't that was your best evidence, I meant that's your trophy head for all this, you might have another pleb or two but there is 0 chance you get Hillary to be accountable even if there's video of her beating a human baby to death with a baby panda and a crowd of witnesses cheering her on.

The system doesn't work that way, losing face and not being President was her punishment, be content with that or be disappointed later is what I'm saying.

As to Hillary specifically, I really don't know whether she's going to get her just desserts. I tend to agree that the most probable outcome is that she does not. But then again, we're still young in the game. Mueller has obviously paralyzed the DOJ and any kind of inquiry into malfeasance. Additionally, I want to see what Barr does after he's confirmed. Even if Hillary isn't touched, I do fully expect various current and former government officials to get prosecuted for one thing or another as it pertains to the Russia investigation. If nothing else, it needs to happen simply to restore faith in the DOJ and the American justice system.


I get that there conspiracies on the anti-Trump, pro-Mueller side, but I'm not entirely sure that justifies making every speculative logical leap you possibly can on the other side.


Both sides are delusional imo for the reasons I mentioned before. I don't know how you all maintain your disbelief. Like doesn't it bother you that there was never any resolution to the Manafort-Assange meeting that never happened?

Seems the libs shake that off as easy as Republicans shake off the lies they are told


There certainly have been media stories on Mueller that have been debunked. But we have proof of some very shady things happening (e.g. Kushner meeting with head of major Russian bank during transition, and the bank publicly said the meeting was for business purposes, while Kushner said it wasn't), which warrants an investigation.


That wasn't really my question or my point? Unless you meant to demonstrate it?

On January 31 2019 01:38 Doodsmack wrote:
This looks all fine and dandy, a day after Trump's FBI director, CIA director, and DNI testified to Congress.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1090608298343190528

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1090609577006112769


War in Venezuela, War in Iran, War in Syria, War in Yemen, Everybody get's a War!

Also Vaccinate your kids, cuz I guess that's still a thing

If you're cold you should know that the Paris Climate Accord isn't going to cut it so if your fav doesn't back a GND of epic proportion we're all fucked


I took your point to be that that particular news story is evidence that the whole thing is a conspiracy theory. I responded by saying that despite the conspiracy theories that do exist, there are serious matters worth investigating.


No, my point was that it doesn't matter how many times stories like that come out for both sides neither side sees they are being played for clicks, or if they see it they don't recognize the pervasiveness and corrosiveness to liberty, or if they recognize it they care more about partisanship and "civility" than accountability and transparency.

EDIT: I know some of you politics thread folks read here, if you want a stark example of climate change Mongolia is a microcosm on the frontline and scary AF


What's going on in Mongolia?


It's a bit of a microcosm for climate change.

Basically the climate is changing, which is changing the enviroment, that's killed the wildlife, that's led a popular way of life (nomadic herding in their case) to begin to fail to sustain them, so they move to the city where they are overcrowded and the air is literally toxic from the coal they have to burn to survive the cold.

There's more to it but it serves as a way to wrap ones mind around 1. Climate change is already killing people 2. That the people that will die first have the least responsibility or ability to change it (under the current hegemony).
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23293 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-01 03:32:16
February 01 2019 03:31 GMT
#3231
The reason why that is scary AF

Not even AOC's Green New Deal is going to radical enough and that's 100% going to be watered down and corporate controlled by the time it gets to a president's desk.

To avoid racing past warming of 1.5 degrees Celsius (2.7 degrees Fahrenheit) over preindustrial levels would require a “rapid and far-reaching” transformation of human civilization at a magnitude that has never happened before, the group found.

“There is no documented historic precedent” for the sweeping change to energy, transportation and other systems required to reach 1.5 degrees Celsius, the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) wrote in a report requested as part of the 2015 Paris climate agreement.

Most strikingly, the document says the world’s annual carbon dioxide emissions, which amount to more than 40 billion tons per year, would have to be on an extremely steep downward path by 2030 to either hold the world entirely below 1.5 degrees Celsius, or allow only a brief “overshoot” in temperatures. As of 2018, emissions appeared to be still rising, not yet showing the clear peak that would need to occur before any decline.

Overall reductions in emissions in the next decade would probably need to be more than 1 billion tons per year, larger than the current emissions of all but a few of the very largest emitting countries. By 2050, the report calls for a total or near-total phaseout of the burning of coal.


www.washingtonpost.com
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23293 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-01 04:44:31
February 01 2019 04:41 GMT
#3232
This legitimately sounds like if you took Trump's politics and had a ambiguously non-white (she's Black and Indian even if she doesn't say so) say it. Because of her identity (in the most neoliberal sense) she's able to do it in California and be the media proclaimed front runner despite not leading any (?) polls.

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 01 2019 05:11 GMT
#3233
lol Kamala Harris was in on broken windows policing back when it wasn't a political litmus test? My what a path she's led. Now she's staking out a far-left position on critical issues to stave off Bernie & Warren.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23293 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-01 08:25:15
February 01 2019 07:04 GMT
#3234
On February 01 2019 14:11 Danglars wrote:
lol Kamala Harris was in on broken windows policing back when it wasn't a political litmus test? My what a path she's led. Now she's staking out a far-left position on critical issues to stave off Bernie & Warren.


Seems pretty clear in that video which is sincere. If anything she should be the candidate you would dislike the least if Trump loses.

Speaking of the criminal justice system being trash:

Mr. Talaska was not outside the norm. Of the public defenders in Louisiana handling felony caseloads at that time, there were two dozen with even more clients. One had 413.

The numbers alone might seem to violate the Constitution. Poor defendants in the United States have the right to a competent lawyer, and hundreds of thousands of defendants rest their hopes on someone like Mr. Talaska.

But there has never been any guarantee that those lawyers would have enough time to handle their cases. That’s why the study cited above, which looked at the workloads of public defenders, is significant.

Right now, courts allow an individual to claim, after they lose, that they received an ineffective defense. But the bar is high. Some judges have ruled that taking illegal drugs, driving to court drunk or briefly falling asleep at the defense table — even during critical testimony — did not make a lawyer inadequate.


www.nytimes.com

Police officer, Judge, Politician these are the other jobs where such behavior isn't just accepted, it's defended as "adequate".

Also I think Roger Stone shit his Depends™ when they busted through his door so we should probably prioritize our concerns.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
February 01 2019 12:31 GMT
#3235
The American system is about putting people in jail (especially if their skin is a few shades darker than driven snow or they're poor) and protecting corporate interests, not defending the rights of little guys with no money.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23293 Posts
February 01 2019 12:47 GMT
#3236
On February 01 2019 21:31 iamthedave wrote:
The American system is about putting people in jail (especially if their skin is a few shades darker than driven snow or they're poor) and protecting corporate interests, not defending the rights of little guys with no money.


Sure is. Always has been. So when I see liberals fret about "abolish the police" (let alone support copmala) I wonder which side are they really on?

I guess this week is going to be Booker's turn. I mean he's the most charismatic, has most of the identity politics going for him (would help to have a vagina), one of the more authentic stories, and a some experience.

If I didn't already know he had neoliberal trash politics I might consider looking further. Not sure he can make to South Carolina or the Democrats establishment want him to unless Kamala can't win it.

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Taelshin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada418 Posts
February 01 2019 14:19 GMT
#3237
Oh god not Spartacus.......... looool. Man these primaries are gonna be so GOD DAMN AWESOME this is better then any sport.
"We didnt listen"
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23293 Posts
February 01 2019 14:26 GMT
#3238
On February 01 2019 23:19 Taelshin wrote:
Oh god not Spartacus.......... looool. Man these primaries are gonna be so GOD DAMN AWESOME this is better then any sport.


I honestly don't know what is less appealing. Kamala's "yeah I lock up Black people, and I'm proud of it" or Booker's "evolution" to not being a Republican darling and Charter school chump.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Taelshin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada418 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-02-01 14:35:19
February 01 2019 14:35 GMT
#3239
Yeah for sure man I think Harris still has the best chance I think earlier in the thread I said my picks were harris or biden and maybe bernie if he runs, still gonna stick with that. I can't seen Spartacus going anywhere its almost confusing why he would even run but it will make for some good entertainment gonna have to go to Costco and buy popcorn in bulk.
"We didnt listen"
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23293 Posts
February 01 2019 14:38 GMT
#3240
On February 01 2019 23:35 Taelshin wrote:
Yeah for sure man I think Harris still has the best chance I think earlier in the thread I said my picks were harris or biden and maybe bernie if he runs, still gonna stick with that. I can't seen Spartacus going anywhere its almost confusing why he would even run but it will make for some good entertainment gonna have to go to Costco and buy popcorn in bulk.


Same reason he also doesn't have an issue page. They are running on their identities, Booker for cash and the dream (after Trump made it everyone thinks they could be president, and they're probably right).
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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