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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On February 07 2019 02:37 GoTuNk! wrote: On the other hand they had no problem dancing and cheering themselves. Shows what they really care about lol. Yeah, I think they are going to regret that moment. They also are going to regret Trump dunking on them with the abortion and socialism issues, | ||
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brian
United States9644 Posts
On February 07 2019 02:37 GoTuNk! wrote: On the other hand they had no problem dancing and cheering themselves. Shows what they really care about lol. this is hilarious in that it’s completely irrelevant to either of the posts in the chain, which are also seemingly tenuously related at best. in doing so, it’s essentially a self five. a little mental masturbation. which is also exactly what you’re critiquing in your post, the women’s own self fives. except for the women you critique, it’s getting more women in politics. for you, it’s just shitting on political opponents. like you said, it shows what they really care about lol. couldn’t have said it better myself. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On February 07 2019 04:25 brian wrote: this is hilarious in that it’s completely irrelevant to either of the posts in the chain, which are also seemingly tenuously related at best. in doing so, it’s essentially a self five. a little mental masturbation. which is also exactly what you’re critiquing in your post, the women’s own self fives. except for the women you critique, it’s getting more women in politics. for you, it’s just shitting on political opponents. like you said, it shows what they really care about lol. couldn’t have said it better myself. I will explain it so maybe you can grasp it, and realize all your reasoning was wrong. Poster 1 said they were ok not to clap low african american unemployment or stopping sex traficking, by making an analogy that Trump was akin to Mao (lol) so you would not clap to anything Trump says, and that would be ok. If that was the case, being coherent they would have stayed silent on everything, but they just couldn't hold themselves from self back patting. The optics of this was terrible for them. | ||
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brian
United States9644 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24507 Posts
On February 07 2019 04:34 GoTuNk! wrote: I will explain it so maybe you can grasp it, and realize all your reasoning was wrong. Poster 1 said they were ok not to clap low african american unemployment or stopping sex traficking, by making an analogy that Trump was akin to Mao (lol) so you would not clap to anything Trump says, and that would be ok. If that was the case, being coherent they would have stayed silent on everything, but they just couldn't hold themselves from self back patting. The optics of this was terrible for them. Do you and xDaunt think Republicans also didn't support all the things they didn't clap for during the Obama administration? Or is this typical partisan optics devoid of substance? On February 07 2019 03:26 xDaunt wrote: Yeah, I think they are going to regret that moment. They also are going to regret Trump dunking on them with the abortion and socialism issues, Democrats might but it was actually taken as a challenge by socialists, I suspect Trump and Republicans will regret basically telling teenage America "You better not become socialists you little whipper snappers", because we know how well telling youth what they won't do works. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
As for AOC specifically, it's only a matter of time before she gets exposed as a fraud and policy lightweight. Democrats are going to have to primary her in 2020. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24507 Posts
On February 07 2019 05:21 xDaunt wrote: Openly supporting socialism is going to be a very tough road to hoe as long as Venezuela is imploding on the global stage. And that's before we start getting into the CBO cost estimates for some of the socialist policies that Bernie and AOC want to push. As for AOC specifically, it's only a matter of time before she gets exposed as a fraud and policy lightweight. Democrats are going to have to primary her in 2020. Venezuela's problems go far beyond socialism. Ironically all the people complaining about Maduro seem to not notice even the most inflated estimates for what he's stealing are comparable to the profits oil execs (as well as other industries) take from their workers. As for AOC lol. I can't imagine the mental gymnastics it takes to lament AOC's alleged lack of knowledge when you're supporting Trump who probably couldn't find half the countries he's bombing on an unlabeled map. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On February 07 2019 05:39 GreenHorizons wrote: Venezuela's problems go far beyond socialism. Ironically all the people complaining about Maduro seem to not notice even the most inflated estimates for what he's stealing are comparable to the profits oil execs (as well as other industries) take from their workers. As for AOC lol. I can't imagine the mental gymnastics it takes to lament AOC's alleged lack of knowledge when you're supporting Trump who probably couldn't find half the countries he's bombing on an unlabeled map. Supporting Trump's policies is pretty easy because the policies work (just as was expected). | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24507 Posts
On February 07 2019 06:10 xDaunt wrote: Supporting Trump's policies is pretty easy because the policies work (just as was expected). So it doesn't matter if she's a "fraud and policy lightweight" really anyway. All that matters is that she supports policy that people want (since we'll disagree on whether they "work"), even by your own metric. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On February 07 2019 06:12 GreenHorizons wrote: So it doesn't matter if she's a "fraud and policy lightweight" really anyway. All that matters is that she supports policy that people want (since we'll disagree on whether they "work"), even by your own metric. No, my point is that Trump is not a fraud and a policy lightweight because his policies have been a success. You can go down the list of all sorts of things that he campaigned on and delivered in the first two years, and not only have those policies worked, but he has made his political opponents on those issues look like fools. No where is there more readily apparent than on his economic policies. Remember when Obama made the "magic wand" quip during the campaign? Well, it turns out that Trump has one. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24507 Posts
On February 07 2019 06:16 xDaunt wrote: No, my point is that Trump is not a fraud and a policy lightweight because his policies have been a success. You can go down the list of all sorts of things that he campaigned on and delivered in the first two years, and not only have those policies worked, but he has made his political opponents on those issues look like fools. No where is there more readily apparent than on his economic policies. Remember when Obama made the "magic wand" quip during the campaign? Well, it turns out that Trump has one. You are seriously arguing Trump isn't a fraud? He ran a fraud university (I mean he's got a long list) lol. Are you also under the impression that Trump is the one creating the policy he's pushing? Or by policy do you just mean the disjointed stream of consciousness on the campaign trail/ in office? | ||
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IgnE
United States7684 Posts
I don’t like AOC’s comment “this is what being a woman in politics is like” Her point might not apply to pharma as well as she thinks, but there’s plenty of public science funding that ends up catalyzing private intellectual property owned by private companies (sometimes even the professors using public funds to research end up piggybacking on it with their private startups) | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
On February 07 2019 06:16 xDaunt wrote: No, my point is that Trump is not a fraud and a policy lightweight because his policies have been a success. You can go down the list of all sorts of things that he campaigned on and delivered in the first two years, and not only have those policies worked, but he has made his political opponents on those issues look like fools. No where is there more readily apparent than on his economic policies. Remember when Obama made the "magic wand" quip during the campaign? Well, it turns out that Trump has one. What has been a success exactly... The jobs ( https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/ces0000000001?output_view=net_1mth ) and finance ( https://www.macrotrends.net/assets/images/large/dow-jones-100-year-historical-chart.png ), or growth ( https://www.statista.com/statistics/188185/percent-chance-from-preceding-period-in-real-gdp-in-the-us/ ) are still running high from the post-crisis bounce back, levels are not even higher than they were during Obama. It takes a while for things to break or improve. Wages are starting to increase a little, but not too much. What other metrics do you want to have a look at ? Judges ? Rolled back regulations ? That's not exactly "policy". The debt and deficit, though, took a deeeep dive. That, yes. I refer you to my previous post (the long one that went unanswered). In any case, we can see if policies are working only after several years, not in the middle of a 4-year presidency. Useful policy would be "his" (I should say "the", cause he won't be the one to work on it  ) infrastructure plan, which everybody is still waiting for... "It's coming guys, it's coming... !" When ? That would really be bipartisan, but he doesn't look interested. Lowering drug prices, as well. Empty talk mostly for now.He's not interested in working with the democrats, as he wants to show that they are obstructing. So he is NOT going to give them cookies, and they are going to be stalled for the next 2 years. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On February 07 2019 06:16 xDaunt wrote: No, my point is that Trump is not a fraud and a policy lightweight because his policies have been a success. You can go down the list of all sorts of things that he campaigned on and delivered in the first two years, and not only have those policies worked, but he has made his political opponents on those issues look like fools. No where is there more readily apparent than on his economic policies. Remember when Obama made the "magic wand" quip during the campaign? Well, it turns out that Trump has one. I think this is the point where you provide some content to back up your claim. List the policies that have been a success, please, so I can see what the other side thinks about them. | ||
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ChristianS
United States3304 Posts
On February 07 2019 05:21 xDaunt wrote: Openly supporting socialism is going to be a very tough road to hoe as long as Venezuela is imploding on the global stage. And that's before we start getting into the CBO cost estimates for some of the socialist policies that Bernie and AOC want to push. As for AOC specifically, it's only a matter of time before she gets exposed as a fraud and policy lightweight. Democrats are going to have to primary her in 2020. Speaking as a big fan of Derek Lowe, if your takeaway from his exchange with AOC was “AOC is a policy lightweight,” I don’t think you understood their exchange very well. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On February 07 2019 06:45 IgnE wrote: Trump is a fraud. I don’t like AOC’s comment “this is what being a woman in politics is like” Her point might not apply to pharma as well as she thinks, but there’s plenty of public science funding that ends up catalyzing private intellectual property owned by private companies (sometimes even the professors using public funds to research end up piggybacking on it with their private startups) Fraud was the first thing that came to my mind when you referred to the serious intellectual foundations laid by Judith Butler. + Show Spoiler [unrelated] + It's like social issues are the new Orwellian back door for policing speech. These last five years have made me much more pessimistic on whether society recovers from present lefty manias. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24507 Posts
On February 07 2019 10:04 Danglars wrote: Fraud was the first thing that came to my mind when you referred to the serious intellectual foundations laid by Judith Butler. + Show Spoiler [unrelated] + https://twitter.com/WokeCapital/status/1093284405584392192 It's like social issues are the new Orwellian back door for policing speech. These last five years have made me much more pessimistic on whether society recovers from present lefty manias. You know Zuckerburg is on yours and xDaunt's side on this right? | ||
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