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XelNaga, how do you refute the pastafarian religion?
How is it any different from christianity?
Don't you realize that in this modern age with things such as SCIENCE and TECHNOLOGY how rediculous all religions sound? Christianity goes one step further and tries to force upon everyone their obviously flawed ideals.
We no longer need to control the daily habits and lifestyle of the uneducated masses.
I had a random guy come up to me one time while I was playing tennis. He was the pastor for a local church. He stopped me after my game and preached to me about how vain people were and the only way to save our souls was to join christianity. But... doesnt that make god vain? Forcing people to force other people into worshiping him?
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On April 18 2007 10:14 ZaplinG wrote:
XelNaga, how do you refute the pastafarian religion?
How is it any different from christianity?
I don't need to refute it, it does a good job of that itself.
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On April 18 2007 09:06 lil.sis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2007 08:55 XelNaga wrote:On April 18 2007 08:37 lil.sis wrote:
see that's exactly the kind of shit i'm talking about
i hope YOU don't go around calling yourself a Christian
judge not lest you be judged etc That's an interesting verse, mind quoting it? Well, I know where it is, in Matthew. You familiar with 2 Timothy 3:16? All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousnessInteresting verse isn't it? You know why I said that? Lets recap some of what he said. However, abusing anything is wrong. U can get drunk with ur friends, but its wrong to drink every day coz its ruining ur body.Okay, so you think it's okay to get drunk with your friends? Romans 13:13 Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousyGalations 5:19-21 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.Uh oh.. Did those verses just condemn being drunk in any situation? Yes, they did. What bible is he reading from? Not the same one I am... Moving along. U can have a girlfriend, perhaps even have sex before marriage if u really like her and feel its ok.Really eh? Where did you come up with this? What did Galations 5:19-21 just say? How about.. Hebrews 13:4 Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.1 Corinthians 7:2 Now concerning the things of which you wrote to me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husbandMark 10:6-8 But at the beginning of creation God made them male and female. For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh. So they are no longer two, but one1 Thessalonians 4:3-5 It is God's will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know GodI'm sorry to be so "judgmental", but there's a thing called "Sunday Christianity" and then there's a thing called a "personal relationship with Christ". What this kid said, at this point in time, he's a Sunday Christian. And until he gets his life right, he has no business going around saying he's a Christian (assuming that he is). Oh, and for all you people who don't understand. I compared his behavior to scripture and called him out on it. A little different than judging him because of my person opinion. If he's going to call himself a Christian, then he's expected to be held to Christian theology. And for that email, it's general correct in my experience with others. congratulations you know the bible by heart and you went to sunday school and you go to church and you know the scriptures guess what? you're still a fucking douche that is mean to other people and generally causes more harm than good YOU are the reason why being a christian today is synonymous with being an idiot YOU are the reason why whenever people are approached by others trying to spread the word nobody gives it the time of day you preach a message of arrogance, sanctimony, judgement and elitism, and anachronistic morals that are not applicable to modern society in any way! you may be christian, but you are still a bad person if given the choice, i would prefer meeting niteReloaded 1000 times over meeting you brb gotta tell my sister to go sacrifice two doves at the temple for her week of uncleanliness (menstruation, it happens) (Lev 15:29)
i was gonna post something about this, but this reply was pure art.
plus i lol'ed real loud when i read the nitereloaded comment hahah
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On April 18 2007 10:09 Hot_Bid wrote:
what, hardcore christians on raping rampages?
If I said everytime you masterbate, a kitten dies, would you counter it by saying what, a kitten dying of ejaculations?
Obviously it's my sarcastic response to his unusual level of beef toward Christians.
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These two pictures summarize how I feel about organized religion:
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On April 18 2007 10:24 1tym wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2007 10:09 Hot_Bid wrote:
what, hardcore christians on raping rampages? If I said everytime you masterbate, a kitten dies, would you counter it by saying what, a kitten dying of ejaculations?Obviously it's my sarcastic response to his unusual level of beef toward Christians.
i think i speak for all of us when i say:
what the fuck?
and you know who else hates his unusual level of beef? Hindus.
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On April 18 2007 10:14 ZaplinG wrote:
Don't you realize that in this modern age with things such as SCIENCE and TECHNOLOGY how rediculous all religions sound? Christianity goes one step further and tries to force upon everyone their obviously flawed ideals.
Yeah, but in this "modern" age, science still hasn't disproven any part of the bible; not one verse. In this day and age science is finally starting to catch up with biblical teaching on the natural world. See, the way I see it is... Science without faith is lame, and faith without science is blind. Was my original intent to try to force Christianity on anyone? No, I was answering someone within the context of Christianity and their opinion about God.
On April 18 2007 10:14 ZaplinG wrote:
We no longer need to control the daily habits and lifestyle of the uneducated masses.
Oh yeah? You see, that's "religion" doing that, not Christianity. Another thing I like to say is, religion and God are too often confused, and even more abandoned. I think Rob Bell said something along the lines of that...
On April 18 2007 10:14 ZaplinG wrote:
I had a random guy come up to me one time while I was playing tennis. He was the pastor for a local church. He stopped me after my game and preached to me about how vain people were and the only way to save our souls was to join christianity. But... doesnt that make god vain? Forcing people to force other people into worshiping him?
If he was forcing you, then that's not good ;( You probably could have stopped him anytime, and if he didn't listen then bad on him -.- Of course it's all under the pretext that Christianity is indeed in fact correct, and if it was... Then why would you abandon an all loving God that blesses you? Hmm.. Good question.
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On April 18 2007 08:36 XelNaga wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2007 04:14 niteReloaded wrote:
I for one believe that God wants us to have fun, wants us to be happy. He certainly doesnt want us to spend like 5h a day praying, especially if its just for the sake of praying. Its much better to say "thank you God for all the good things u gave me, plz guide me thru this day" each day, and then proceed to act nicely to other people, help ppl u can help.
He created this world, he wants us to enjoy it. Im pretty sure he didn put all the good things in the world as traps so as many ppl get some fun and thus go to hell.
However, abusing anything is wrong. U can get drunk with ur friends, but its wrong to drink every day coz its ruining ur body. U can have a girlfriend, perhaps even have sex before marriage if u really like her and feel its ok. But the wrong thing would be to fuck anything that walks just to satisfy the urges. I hope you don't go around calling yourself a Christian
EDIT: It seems you got a full plate, forget it.
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[QUOTE]On April 18 2007 09:44 XelNaga wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 18 2007 09:38 lil.sis wrote:
Does Islam not teach that if you don't believe in Allah you won't enter paradise? Judaism, is that not the same way? Do you see what I'm getting at? I wasn't trying to be an ass, but if you're going to point that out with Christianity, then you should also realize that Christianity isn't the only religion like that. Christianity is however, the only religion which teaches that nothing we can do can save us, it's only through God's grace.
Seriously, why are you still going if the only thing you can do is resort to meager insults?[/QUOTE]
Wait....you do realize Judaism, Christianity and Islam all believe in the exact same god right?
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On April 18 2007 10:35 Kennigit wrote:
Wait....you do realize Judaism, Christianity and Islam all believe in the exact same god right?
Oh yeah? Maybe of the surface. There are many theological differences, even if they are "Abrahamic" religions.
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On April 18 2007 10:31 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2007 10:24 1tym wrote:On April 18 2007 10:09 Hot_Bid wrote:
what, hardcore christians on raping rampages? If I said everytime you masterbate, a kitten dies, would you counter it by saying what, a kitten dying of ejaculations?Obviously it's my sarcastic response to his unusual level of beef toward Christians. i think i speak for all of us when i say: what the fuck? and you know who else hates his unusual level of beef? Hindus.
You either translated my original sarcastic post literally or took it word by word with all seriousness, and you had to point out the irony in my post. My above post was to illustrate the pointlessness of it. but it looks like you still don't get it..
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On April 18 2007 10:34 XelNaga wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2007 10:14 ZaplinG wrote:
Don't you realize that in this modern age with things such as SCIENCE and TECHNOLOGY how rediculous all religions sound? Christianity goes one step further and tries to force upon everyone their obviously flawed ideals. Yeah, but in this "modern" age, science still hasn't disproven any part of the bible; not one verse. In this day and age science is finally starting to catch up with biblical teaching on the natural world. See, the way I see it is... Science without faith is lame, and faith without science is blind. Was my original intent to try to force Christianity on anyone? No, I was answering someone within the context of Christianity and their opinion about God. Show nested quote +On April 18 2007 10:14 ZaplinG wrote:
We no longer need to control the daily habits and lifestyle of the uneducated masses. Oh yeah? You see, that's "religion" doing that, not Christianity. Another thing I like to say is, religion and God are too often confused, and even more abandoned. I think Rob Bell said something along the lines of that... Show nested quote +On April 18 2007 10:14 ZaplinG wrote:
I had a random guy come up to me one time while I was playing tennis. He was the pastor for a local church. He stopped me after my game and preached to me about how vain people were and the only way to save our souls was to join christianity. But... doesnt that make god vain? Forcing people to force other people into worshiping him? If he was forcing you, then that's not good ;( You probably could have stopped him anytime, and if he didn't listen then bad on him -.- Of course it's all under the pretext that Christianity is indeed in fact correct, and if it was... Then why would you abandon an all loving God that blesses you? Hmm.. Good question.
How the hell are you not aware of the bible says pi = 3 argument. Which by the way, it does. And pi simply cannot = 3. Not in a scientic proven way but just as there can be no square root to -1.
The only defence is that people in ye olden days weren't very good at geometry and meant 3.14.
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and uh, what about the dinosaurs or the other skeletal remains of older human species?
and how do you refute evolution? that is directly disagreeing with the idea that god put everything on this earth.
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On April 18 2007 10:43 Kwark wrote:
How the hell are you not aware of the bible says pi = 3 argument. Which by the way, it does. And pi simply cannot = 3. Not in a scientic proven way but just as there can be no square root to -1.
The only defence is that people in ye olden days weren't very good at geometry and meant 3.14.
Really? The bible says pi = 3? hmmm
http://www.purplemath.com/modules/bibleval.htm
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i2/pi.asp
Do I need to keep quoting.. Or shall we stop?
On April 18 2007 10:47 ZaplinG wrote:
and uh, what about the dinosaurs or the other skeletal remains of older human species?
and how do you refute evolution? that is directly disagreeing with the idea that god put everything on this earth.
Dinosaurs and missing links? And upside down geological columns, and the fact that prebiotic fluid isn't naturally existing.. And that little problem of how both sexes evolved at the same time... And uhhh.. Yeah, no? I know they like to teach science and evolution and these "facts", but closer examination proves they are only theories at best, well documented, hardly proven, and not enough to cause Christianity any problems.
Like they say, one disgruntled Creationist is better than 2 biologists.
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Braavos36375 Posts
On April 18 2007 10:43 1tym wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2007 10:31 Hot_Bid wrote:On April 18 2007 10:24 1tym wrote:On April 18 2007 10:09 Hot_Bid wrote:
what, hardcore christians on raping rampages? If I said everytime you masterbate, a kitten dies, would you counter it by saying what, a kitten dying of ejaculations?Obviously it's my sarcastic response to his unusual level of beef toward Christians. i think i speak for all of us when i say: what the fuck? and you know who else hates his unusual level of beef? Hindus. You either translated my original sarcastic post literally or took it word by word with all seriousness, and you had to point out the irony in my post. My above post was to illustrate the pointlessness of it. but it looks like you still don't get it..
KITTENS. ARE. DYING. Please think of the kittens.
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Braavos36375 Posts
AND I QUOTE NUMBERS 22:21
"And Balaam rose up in the morning, and saddled his ass, and went with the princes of Moab."
Clearly the bible approves of baal being a homosexual. Those princes rode his ass until sunset. I think the entire forum can agree on this.
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On April 18 2007 10:58 Hot_Bid wrote:AND I QUOTE NUMBERS 22:21 Show nested quote +"And Balaam rose up in the morning, and saddled his ass, and went with the princes of Moab." Clearly the bible approves of baal being a homosexual. I think the entire forum can agree on this.
Yeah that's real mature, keep going, you'll be a fan favourite.
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Braavos36375 Posts
that's what the princes of moab said and that didn't stop baal
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You can keep quoting. There are two defences given there. That they said it was 3 but meant pi give or take a little. Which in no way changes the fact that it says it is 3. My point was that the bible has been proven wrong. Your defence is that it has been proven wrong, but they didn't mean what it says. Nice going.
Or the second defence. The subject change mid sentence. You see, the first measurement is for one circle, the second, with absolutely no indication of the presence of a second, is for a completely different circle. If I were to say the cup was 10 across and 30 around you would assume i was describing the rim of the cup. Not so. What I actually mean was that the rim was 10 across and the base 30 around.
So, your defences against this appear to be in the case of the first, absolutely not a defence. My point was the bible says pi = 3. Your defence is it didn't mean that. And in the second, utter nonsense.
Try a bit harder.
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