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On November 30 2016 22:54 petro1987 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 22:45 smilingjuggernaut wrote:On November 30 2016 22:33 petro1987 wrote:
Just wait until people come here saying "let the meta settle, players will find a way to deal with that"... Maybe in 6 months or one year, Blizzard will actually do something, who knows... Yes. Aggression being considered "overpowered" till it was figured out and understood NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE LITERALLY NEVER XD + Show Spoiler +That said, personally I have no idea if Hydralisks are too strong at the moment or not - I only play StarCraft very casually these days - 1 or 2 games as warmup before dota XD I never said it never happened. But it's pretty clear that hydras are not a strong timing. The unit is just solid and quite strong. The biggest issue tho, is that Blizzard takes way too much time to actually make sensible changes to anything. It took 1 year to nerf ultra armor from 8 to 7. Reapers are still pretty strong in all-ins. At the same time, silly things like bunker build time was changed several times. The cyclone was nerfed before 3.8 went live, and now they are already considering undoing those changes. There is no consistency at all. Huge things are kept unchanged for literally years, while silly things are changed all the time.
Are you Dark or Soo or another decent Zerg? What makes you think you know for sure Hydralisks are too strong at current?
Don't get things confused. Of course everyone will agree that Patch Zerg era Infestor Broodlord was broken (design-wise and balance-wise) but as far as 8 armor ultra goes, last time I checked ByuN a Terran won GSL and BlizzCon.
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On November 30 2016 23:18 smilingjuggernaut wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 22:54 petro1987 wrote:On November 30 2016 22:45 smilingjuggernaut wrote:On November 30 2016 22:33 petro1987 wrote:
Just wait until people come here saying "let the meta settle, players will find a way to deal with that"... Maybe in 6 months or one year, Blizzard will actually do something, who knows... Yes. Aggression being considered "overpowered" till it was figured out and understood NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE LITERALLY NEVER XD + Show Spoiler +That said, personally I have no idea if Hydralisks are too strong at the moment or not - I only play StarCraft very casually these days - 1 or 2 games as warmup before dota XD I never said it never happened. But it's pretty clear that hydras are not a strong timing. The unit is just solid and quite strong. The biggest issue tho, is that Blizzard takes way too much time to actually make sensible changes to anything. It took 1 year to nerf ultra armor from 8 to 7. Reapers are still pretty strong in all-ins. At the same time, silly things like bunker build time was changed several times. The cyclone was nerfed before 3.8 went live, and now they are already considering undoing those changes. There is no consistency at all. Huge things are kept unchanged for literally years, while silly things are changed all the time. Are you Dark or Soo or another decent Zerg? What makes you think you know for sure Hydralisks are too strong at current? Don't get things confused. Of course everyone will agree that Patch Zerg era Infestor Broodlord was broken (design-wise and balance-wise) but as far as 8 armor ultra goes, last time I checked ByuN a Terran won GSL and BlizzCon.
Are you using blizzcon which happened before the patch as a barometer for how well the hydra is performing post buff? this is the kind of cognitive dissonance i am talking about from zerg players, that bias cant be beaten...
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On November 30 2016 23:18 smilingjuggernaut wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 22:54 petro1987 wrote:On November 30 2016 22:45 smilingjuggernaut wrote:On November 30 2016 22:33 petro1987 wrote:
Just wait until people come here saying "let the meta settle, players will find a way to deal with that"... Maybe in 6 months or one year, Blizzard will actually do something, who knows... Yes. Aggression being considered "overpowered" till it was figured out and understood NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE LITERALLY NEVER XD + Show Spoiler +That said, personally I have no idea if Hydralisks are too strong at the moment or not - I only play StarCraft very casually these days - 1 or 2 games as warmup before dota XD I never said it never happened. But it's pretty clear that hydras are not a strong timing. The unit is just solid and quite strong. The biggest issue tho, is that Blizzard takes way too much time to actually make sensible changes to anything. It took 1 year to nerf ultra armor from 8 to 7. Reapers are still pretty strong in all-ins. At the same time, silly things like bunker build time was changed several times. The cyclone was nerfed before 3.8 went live, and now they are already considering undoing those changes. There is no consistency at all. Huge things are kept unchanged for literally years, while silly things are changed all the time. Are you Dark or Soo or another decent Zerg? What makes you think you know for sure Hydralisks are too strong at current? Don't get things confused. Of course everyone will agree that Patch Zerg era Infestor Broodlord was broken (design-wise and balance-wise) but as far as 8 armor ultra goes, last time I checked ByuN a Terran won GSL and BlizzCon.
So only Dark, Soo or another decent Zerg can comment about things? What kind of logic is this? Close the forums then I guess?
About 8 armor ultras. Well Blizzard nerfed them to 7 armor, so I guess they also agreed it was too strong. It only took them 1 year to figure it out tho. Great timing. About Byun, you do realize I said reapers all-ins are too strong too, right? In fact, he won several games vs Dark using reapers. Guess which games he lost against Dark: the ones where he couldn't/wouldn't capitalize on reapers and got rekt by 8 armor ultras. You do realize that having 1 OP unit doesn't mean it's impossible to lose, right?
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On November 30 2016 23:24 FoxDog wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 23:18 smilingjuggernaut wrote:On November 30 2016 22:54 petro1987 wrote:On November 30 2016 22:45 smilingjuggernaut wrote:On November 30 2016 22:33 petro1987 wrote:
Just wait until people come here saying "let the meta settle, players will find a way to deal with that"... Maybe in 6 months or one year, Blizzard will actually do something, who knows... Yes. Aggression being considered "overpowered" till it was figured out and understood NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE LITERALLY NEVER XD + Show Spoiler +That said, personally I have no idea if Hydralisks are too strong at the moment or not - I only play StarCraft very casually these days - 1 or 2 games as warmup before dota XD I never said it never happened. But it's pretty clear that hydras are not a strong timing. The unit is just solid and quite strong. The biggest issue tho, is that Blizzard takes way too much time to actually make sensible changes to anything. It took 1 year to nerf ultra armor from 8 to 7. Reapers are still pretty strong in all-ins. At the same time, silly things like bunker build time was changed several times. The cyclone was nerfed before 3.8 went live, and now they are already considering undoing those changes. There is no consistency at all. Huge things are kept unchanged for literally years, while silly things are changed all the time. Are you Dark or Soo or another decent Zerg? What makes you think you know for sure Hydralisks are too strong at current? Don't get things confused. Of course everyone will agree that Patch Zerg era Infestor Broodlord was broken (design-wise and balance-wise) but as far as 8 armor ultra goes, last time I checked ByuN a Terran won GSL and BlizzCon. Are you using blizzcon which happened before the patch as a barometer for how well the hydra is performing post buff? this is the kind of cognitive dissonance i am talking about from zerg players, that bias cant be beaten...
"cognitive dissonance i am talking about from zerg players, that bias cant be beaten"
"cognitive dissonance i am talking about from zerg players, that bias cant be beaten"
mfw poster complains about bias from other poster and is himself biased against all zerg players
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Russian Federation5 Posts
I'm probably not qualified to judge whether hydras are OP or not, but what I don't understand is: why did Blizzard feel the need to further buff their offensive capabilities in the first place?
I mean, first, they are already a T2 unit with highest flat DPS, and the most cost- and supply efficient, in terms of damage output, as well; second, the issue that most Zerg players had with them, apparently, had always been their vulnerability to splash and AoE damage. So, shouldn't Blizzard have tried to increase the hydras' HP and/or armor, instead?
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I don't know, I play Terran and Hydralisks still seem awful; bio-tank compositions completely destroy them
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On November 30 2016 22:30 BisuDagger wrote:
Bring back the amulet for protoss and bring back the old snipe. Trust me, this is the right direction.
strom hype best hype
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just spam pylons cannons and make carriers, your hydra woes will melt under the sun ( 5 mineral interceptors)
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On November 30 2016 23:28 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 23:24 FoxDog wrote:On November 30 2016 23:18 smilingjuggernaut wrote:On November 30 2016 22:54 petro1987 wrote:On November 30 2016 22:45 smilingjuggernaut wrote:On November 30 2016 22:33 petro1987 wrote:
Just wait until people come here saying "let the meta settle, players will find a way to deal with that"... Maybe in 6 months or one year, Blizzard will actually do something, who knows... Yes. Aggression being considered "overpowered" till it was figured out and understood NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE LITERALLY NEVER XD + Show Spoiler +That said, personally I have no idea if Hydralisks are too strong at the moment or not - I only play StarCraft very casually these days - 1 or 2 games as warmup before dota XD I never said it never happened. But it's pretty clear that hydras are not a strong timing. The unit is just solid and quite strong. The biggest issue tho, is that Blizzard takes way too much time to actually make sensible changes to anything. It took 1 year to nerf ultra armor from 8 to 7. Reapers are still pretty strong in all-ins. At the same time, silly things like bunker build time was changed several times. The cyclone was nerfed before 3.8 went live, and now they are already considering undoing those changes. There is no consistency at all. Huge things are kept unchanged for literally years, while silly things are changed all the time. Are you Dark or Soo or another decent Zerg? What makes you think you know for sure Hydralisks are too strong at current? Don't get things confused. Of course everyone will agree that Patch Zerg era Infestor Broodlord was broken (design-wise and balance-wise) but as far as 8 armor ultra goes, last time I checked ByuN a Terran won GSL and BlizzCon. Are you using blizzcon which happened before the patch as a barometer for how well the hydra is performing post buff? this is the kind of cognitive dissonance i am talking about from zerg players, that bias cant be beaten... "cognitive dissonance i am talking about from zerg players, that bias cant be beaten" " cognitive dissonance i am talking about from zerg players, that bias cant be beaten" mfw poster complains about bias from other poster and is himself biased against all zerg players + Show Spoiler +
did you read the post he made? he said pre buff hydralisks are fine therefore the new one is fine, BLIZZCON does not represent the new hydralisk in ANY way, this is insanity
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Why the hell is this balance whine on teamliquid?
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How funny.
Protoss: Hydras imba
Terran: Its ok we have bio tank
Zerg: Just get Carriers
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Canada8157 Posts
These threads never go well.
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