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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
who is to blame, would be a question related to 'what sort of community' should be here. is it a tolerant and mature community, then push back those who make a big deal out of 'deviant' things, the alternatives are not that appealing, or well defined. and i dont think being physically attracted to anything should be offensive. the controversy in pedophilia is the child abuse, which is clearly not shown in chibi's behavior. the stigma when it comes to chibi is misplaced. | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 21 2007 21:56 fusionsdf wrote: To clarify, pedophiles tend to be attracted to the androgynous features of children - undeveloped chests, narrow waists et cetra. Being attracted to a 15, or even an 11 year old with large breasts does not make you a pedophile. Whether it is morally wrong or not, is another issue, but it is not a pedophillic desire. To summarize ( and I realize this is dangerous): A person attracted to the androgynous features of children - pedophile A person attracted to the features of a human in mid to late puberty - ephebophile Age limits are mainly established to limit confusion afaict yeah that's why I've used the phrases "physically mature" and "prepubescent", only using actual ages where necessary | ||
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LuMiX
China5757 Posts
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Kingkosi
United States1215 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On March 21 2007 21:57 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: yeah that's why I've used the phrases "physically mature" and "prepubescent", only using actual ages where necessary Yes. I just wanted to make it clear to those who havent bothered to look up the words. But I think we are in agreement. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 21 2007 21:59 Metal[x] wrote: hermoine IS sexy!!!! i also remember someone saying they would bang jojo? shes was like 13...so i dont know why they were not banned for such things where chibi was? Its been stated multiple times, chibi wasnt banned because people are ignorant about his views; the mod team (mostly) looked past that from the getgo and made the decision based on the fact that he couldn't just drop it, deviant or not. I mean yeah beyonder hardcore provoked him but it would have happened anyway most likely. Like I said, Chibi was either naive or just didnt care if he was banned or not. I dunno. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
Just look at the Crazytown girl.. she was turned into a pedo icon and most of the internet embraced it Chibi took the educated approach to the subject and got shot down by people that are closed minded | ||
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brian
United States9642 Posts
rape is sexual deviance its not a problem of intolerance, it's a problem of where you draw the line. he was shot down by people who drew that line on the wrong side of Chibi and AFAIK asked him to no longer cross it. and he was incapable of doing so. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 21 2007 21:57 oneofthem wrote: the stigma when it comes to chibi is misplaced. Entirely, but that didn't stop it from becoming a destructive force on the forum  | ||
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
And speaking of new mods, imho, I think Steve should be reinstated as mod again. Strafe would be an entertaining mod too, now that I think about it . | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On March 21 2007 22:04 Masamune wrote: And speaking of new mods, imho, I think Steve should be reinstated as mod again. i was never a mod you scoundrel! | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On March 21 2007 22:02 Gene wrote: that's a mighty tall strawman thar. the line is clearly drawn by the harm principle, which in the case of chibi was an ongoing discussion. i see no reason to not entertain this discussion in a fair manner. what did chibi do anyway, post some videos to kiddie japanese girls dancing? what's wrong with that. oneofthem rape is sexual deviance its not a problem of intolerance, it's a problem of where you draw the line. he was shot down by idyllic people who drew that line on the wrong side of Chibi and AFAIK asked him to no longer cross it. and he was incapable of doing so. | ||
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brian
United States9642 Posts
i just looked up idyllic cause i felt it didnt mean what i thought it was and i was right i meant people who like ideals. i wasnt kidding when i said i was tired and at a loss for words going on that thought process, it was understandable to me if not acceptable exactly what happened. | ||
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
Hmm, I always thought you were had something to do with the general forums and news at one time....figured it was some sort of mod related position all this time  | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On March 21 2007 22:02 Gene wrote: oneofthem rape is sexual deviance its not a problem of intolerance, it's a problem of where you draw the line. he was shot down by people who drew that line on the wrong side of Chibi and AFAIK asked him to no longer cross it. and he was incapable of doing so. I just want to make sure I understand your post. talking about pedophilia = sexual deviance = child rape? How did you get here? | ||
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
On March 21 2007 22:02 Coagulation wrote: Guys on the internet gawking over underage girls isnt all that big of a deal.. it happens every forum.. Just look at the Crazytown girl.. she was turned into a pedo icon and most of the internet embraced it Chibi took the educated approach to the subject and got shot down by people that are closed minded Yeah I remember the lazytown threads. That was fucking dumb I don't get what the hell was going on. Chibi did not (and does not) find her attractive btw. Can anyone link the original thread btw ? I want to check something edit: critical typo :o | ||
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brian
United States9642 Posts
On March 21 2007 22:08 fusionsdf wrote: I just want to make sure I understand your post. talking about pedophilia = sexual deviance = child rape? How did you get here? it wasnt about the rape it was about "Deviant" and why it isnt intolerance, but where to draw the line. Intolerance isnt the problem with deviance. there are obvious examples of deviance that should not be condoned. i.e. rape. however this examle of deviance is "on the fence" if i may use the analogy. My point again was that its not intolerance, its where to draw the line. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
On March 21 2007 00:38 Hollow wrote: so is he going to be banned from LP.net as well? I think he is admin at LP :p he should ban Beyonder | ||
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