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oneofthem
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brian
United States9643 Posts
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baal
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brian
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[Carlodajin]
Peru306 Posts
But Servolisk opinion is really good. | ||
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baal
10708 Posts
Just Eri's opinion alone should freaking outweight any tantrum made by Beyonder or anyone else. And yeah Beyonder DID fucking ban him stop excusing him, he did... retards like Incontrol and Testie managed to heat him enough to ban him in a anti-chibi thread FFS what kind of modding is this?.... Ok now that i banned him ill figure out WHY he should remain banned... oh and if he gets unbanned i will leave asap!!!... oh i take that back. bullshit | ||
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PaeZ
Mexico1627 Posts
Chibi was hilarious as hell and i also think he didnt harm anyone even if he had different likings and such, but i also think he was forgiven a lot of times but lets hope this gets solved asap | ||
KwarK
United States44265 Posts
On March 21 2007 23:17 baal wrote: The only admin with real leverage that supported chibi's ban was Twisted, the rest were the USUAL 2nd rate square heads who are even less improtant to the site than chibi himself. Just Eri's opinion alone should freaking outweight any tantrum made by Beyonder or anyone else. And yeah Beyonder DID fucking ban him stop excusing him, he did... retards like Incontrol and Testie managed to heat him enough to ban him in a anti-chibi thread FFS what kind of modding is this?.... Ok now that i banned him ill figure out WHY he should remain banned... oh and if he gets unbanned i will leave asap!!!... oh i take that back. bullshit It can still be justified because he violated the agreement that he'd not refer to anything pedophilia related because it causes arguments. The fact that Beyonder was provoking him and that Chibi refused to engage in Beyonder's flame war, instead conducting himself respectably and passively doesn't change the fact that he posted on the subject. And in doing so he gave Bey all the justification he needed. Sure, that rule was created for Chibi to stop him causing arguments, and it is clear that in this case he didn't cause the argument. But he still broke the rule. If you read the thread you see that Chibi was the only poster there to give a well cited, response that was based upon something more than opinion. You'll see that Beyonder was flaming him for no reason and that Chibi refused to get into a flame war. But he still responded, albeit in an adult and restrained fashion. The rule for him should have been "do not refer to pedophilia, or the sisters of others, in a manner that will provoke arguments". It was however "do not refer to pedophilia". He broke it and will stay banned because of it. It is however, only just if you believe that the rule was worded correctly. Edit to clarify: I believe that he did not break the spirit of the rule, that his actions were in no way provocative and that he acted commendably in the face of provocation. I believe the intent of the law matters more than the precise word of the law precisely because of cases like this, where you would punish him for no wrongdoing simply to uphold a rule. I would not have banned him. But I'm no mod and my thoughts on the rules are only my opinion. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27177 Posts
On March 21 2007 23:17 baal wrote: The only admin with real leverage that supported chibi's ban was Twisted, the rest were the USUAL 2nd rate square heads who are even less improtant to the site than chibi himself. Just Eri's opinion alone should freaking outweight any tantrum made by Beyonder or anyone else. And yeah Beyonder DID fucking ban him stop excusing him, he did... retards like Incontrol and Testie managed to heat him enough to ban him in a anti-chibi thread FFS what kind of modding is this?.... Ok now that i banned him ill figure out WHY he should remain banned... oh and if he gets unbanned i will leave asap!!!... oh i take that back. bullshit Fuck you. You are worth nothing at all, and know even less. You get up on this high horse like you are some kind of TL lorist pining for the old days, and then presume to tell the world about a subject and a process you know nothing about. The fact that you even comment on the quality of the forums when you yourself are responsible for lowering that quality is laughable. The moderators on this site represent some of the smartest and most articulated people I have come across here. The level of discussion on this issue and all others would shame even the best of the general forum threads. They work hard and come up with fair results in order to make this a better place. Get the fuck out baal. Seriously, don't come back. I would like to see your TL attitude stand at LP. Im tired of you coming here everytime you feel like you have to take a verbal dump. Do everybody a favour and just dont post. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On March 21 2007 23:11 baal wrote: i hope u typed that to 1k posters... if you seriuosly think a person like Beyonder or most of the mods who wanted him out has a better grasp of things if he deserved to be banned you gotta be fucking kidding me travis Who has had to close the threads every time he's posted drunk. Who's had to deal with his spam and temp ban him. Who's had to warn him when he's crossing the line? You or the mods? | ||
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
On March 21 2007 23:29 Kwark wrote: It can still be justified because he violated the agreement that he'd not refer to anything pedophilia related because it causes arguments. The fact that Beyonder was provoking him and that Chibi refused to engage in Beyonder's flame war, instead conducting himself respectably and passively doesn't change the fact that he posted on the subject. And in doing so he gave Bey all the justification he needed. Sure, that rule was created for Chibi to stop him causing arguments, and it is clear that in this case he didn't cause the argument. But he still broke the rule. If you read the thread you see that Chibi was the only poster there to give a well cited, response that was based upon something more than opinion. You'll see that Beyonder was flaming him for no reason and that Chibi refused to get into a flame war. But he still responded, albeit in an adult and restrained fashion. The rule for him should have been "do not refer to pedophilia, or the sisters of others, in a manner that will provoke arguments". It was however "do not refer to pedophilia". He broke it and will stay banned because of it. It is however, only just if you believe that the rule was worded correctly. Chibi told me a while ago that his warning was worded differently (see my earlier post). I think it is interesting to note that nobody was going to ban Chibi for him bringing up a study about pedofilia in an argument about sexual deviance. Beyonder wasn't even going to, or else surely he would of banned him on the spot and there would have been a lot less controversy. And if it wasn't ban worthy for beyonder then, I find it odd that it suddenly was the justification in retrospect. If Beyonder and co. hadn't turned it into a heated argument. Does anyone doubt that no one would of found this violating the terms of some agreement and/or ban worthy if not for the flame war started by people who already hated Chibi? | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
On March 21 2007 23:17 baal wrote: The only admin with real leverage that supported chibi's ban was Twisted, the rest were the USUAL 2nd rate square heads who are even less improtant to the site than chibi himself. Just Eri's opinion alone should freaking outweight any tantrum made by Beyonder or anyone else. And yeah Beyonder DID fucking ban him stop excusing him, he did... retards like Incontrol and Testie managed to heat him enough to ban him in a anti-chibi thread FFS what kind of modding is this?.... Ok now that i banned him ill figure out WHY he should remain banned... oh and if he gets unbanned i will leave asap!!!... oh i take that back. bullshit Haha I actually agree Bey is bit... immature, let me put it like this cuz I figure I don't have ur arbitor status to avoid a ban after this post. Damn I always hated baal and his asstard posts but I agree w/ him in this one. b-_-b | ||
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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
Honestly it seems like the people who are angry with the ban are misunderstanding why the ban was in place. Being a "pedo" isn't the reason he is banned.. its the fact that he chose to excessively show it and point it out.. thats what got him banned. By doing that he also broke the agreement with the admins. and Mani posted what the agreement was.. i dont understand why some do not comprehend that (the agreement)? I agree with Kwark. | ||
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baal
10708 Posts
Chibi WAS banned because Beyonder hates Chibi.. and 2 idiots led him to Ban him not consulting other moderators... that is WHY he was banned. Later he(and the other 2nd rate mods) found a justification for the ban. PS: So many people have said "i agree with Baal" its freaking scary, even people who hate me. | ||
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TheosEx
United States894 Posts
On March 21 2007 23:37 Manifesto7 wrote: Fuck you. You are worth nothing at all, and know even less. You get up on this high horse like you are some kind of TL lorist pining for the old days, and then presume to tell the world about a subject and a process you know nothing about. The fact that you even comment on the quality of the forums when you yourself are responsible for lowering that quality is laughable. The moderators on this site represent some of the smartest and most articulated people I have come across here. The level of discussion on this issue and all others would shame even the best of the general forum threads. They work hard and come up with fair results in order to make this a better place. Get the fuck out baal. Seriously, don't come back. I would like to see your TL attitude stand at LP. Im tired of you coming here everytime you feel like you have to take a verbal dump. Do everybody a favour and just dont post. Lol, I've been itching to say the same shit forever... but I didn't want to get banned for flaming >_< But now that Mani said it... for real, shut the fuck up baal. You're a fucking ridiculously dumbass piece of shit. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
Take it easy I'm not scary :3 | ||
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baal
10708 Posts
Unless you want to Ban me into a stupid rage moment because u dislike me and then find 2349824 posts of garbage (wich im sure u will find), mention how many warnings and bans ive had... do it, apprently it works like a freaking charm. | ||
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Servolisk
United States5241 Posts
On March 21 2007 23:37 Manifesto7 wrote: Fuck you. You are worth nothing at all, and know even less. You get up on this high horse like you are some kind of TL lorist pining for the old days, and then presume to tell the world about a subject and a process you know nothing about. The fact that you even comment on the quality of the forums when you yourself are responsible for lowering that quality is laughable. Trying too hard? | ||
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whatever
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evanthebouncy!
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