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Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
March 31 2016 23:04 GMT
#1
"DeepMind has already beaten top SC2 Players" announces Google
1 April 2016

Google has announced today that the DeepMind team has already been working hard at creating a functioning AI for Starcraft II, and that their AI has already racked up an impressive list of achievements, dominating the Korean online match-making system, or "Ladder", twice winning the Global Starcraft II League (Korea's top starcraft II tournament), and even reaching the Quarterfinals of the most recent World Championships.

Their machine, simply nicknamed "INnoVation", has been able to defeat even the most hardcore Starcraft II players, putting to bed rumours that the game would be too difficult for a computer to master. Much like it's Go counterpart, "INnoVation" has been able to make moves that no human player would ever think of pulling off, helping it to win matches against even the most veteran of players. However, sometimes those unusual plays ended up hurting the AI's chances. In the finals of the 2013 WCS Season 1 Korea GSL, "INnoVation" attempted to fly all of its defenceless medivacs through a cloud of mutalisks, which onlookers described as "a fucking terrible decision."

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Lee Shin Hyung, Google's chief engineer on the "INnoVation" project.

Though INnoVation was often called "The Machine" by fans, for its mechanical playstyle and seeming lack of fear or emotion, it has only recently come to light that the player actually was a machine. Speaking after the finals of the SK Telecom Proleague Round 1, in which "INnoVation" took the decisive game, the google team announced their success. "DeepMind has already beaten top SC2 Players, and will continue to do so. The Machine has a strong record of taking out even the best players, and we will only seek to improve its success rate."

"As of yet, we do not know why "INnoVation" malfunctions when playing in World Championship Series Quarterfinals."

Source: www.fomos.kr
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 31 2016 23:08 GMT
#2
April fools wooo!
When I think of something else, something will go here
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28476 Posts
March 31 2016 23:08 GMT
#3
lol
I Protoss winner, could it be?
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
March 31 2016 23:11 GMT
#4
A bit early? It's still March 31st here
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
March 31 2016 23:14 GMT
#5
That why stork didn't allow him advances to code S
He is too dangerous for CODE S group.... and maybe mankind if he wins.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44312 Posts
March 31 2016 23:19 GMT
#6
Love it Well played!
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Saumure
Profile Joined February 2012
France404 Posts
March 31 2016 23:20 GMT
#7
way too obvious
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 31 2016 23:24 GMT
#8
Deepmind really needs to work on INnoVation's interview algorithms. The answer he gives feel really generic and inhuman at times.

On April 01 2016 08:11 DinoMight wrote:
A bit early? It's still March 31st here


Korean time is the only time that matters on TL.
EleMenTfiNi
Profile Joined January 2015
Canada107 Posts
March 31 2016 23:27 GMT
#9
This made me laugh, thank you!
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
March 31 2016 23:29 GMT
#10
There is still room for improvement, I remember when he downloaded the Sadthor.exe program in wcs, I hope they will patch that in the futur.
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Frankenberry
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark302 Posts
March 31 2016 23:30 GMT
#11
Hahahaha. Loved it! :D
Negius
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands290 Posts
March 31 2016 23:51 GMT
#12
Brilliant. Thanks for the good laugh.
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sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
April 01 2016 00:05 GMT
#13
huehuehue
terrible, terrible, damage
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
April 01 2016 00:07 GMT
#14
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Excellent one
BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
April 01 2016 00:07 GMT
#15
I knew that nose wasn't natural.
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DuckloadBlackra
Profile Joined July 2011
225 Posts
April 01 2016 00:09 GMT
#16
On April 01 2016 08:20 Saumure wrote:
way too obvious


It wasn't trying to be subtle lol
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
April 01 2016 00:13 GMT
#17
I actually didn't notice until i read the name innovation. Well played, haha.
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
April 01 2016 00:20 GMT
#18
On April 01 2016 08:20 Saumure wrote:
way too obvious


It's not like anyone actually tries to hide April Fool's jokes. It's meant to be funny, not some hidden trick that everyone's absolutely going to fall for.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 01 2016 00:38 GMT
#19
Man that's awesome!
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Senkii
Profile Joined December 2012
Hungary37 Posts
April 01 2016 00:45 GMT
#20
Mystery's account in kr is more fun, beating TY, but still fun.
TatyGG
Profile Joined July 2014
United Kingdom4 Posts
April 01 2016 00:46 GMT
#21
Haha I didn't notice until I read "twice winning the Global Starcraft II League" :D
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
April 01 2016 00:49 GMT
#22
should not have put the article date in the title :o
MadJack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Peru357 Posts
April 01 2016 00:57 GMT
#23
Too early its not even april 1st, not here anyways. I would know cuz its my BD.
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Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
April 01 2016 01:08 GMT
#24
I liked this.
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
April 01 2016 01:27 GMT
#25
lol that was a good one!
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DuckloadBlackra
Profile Joined July 2011
225 Posts
April 01 2016 01:38 GMT
#26
On April 01 2016 09:13 Yorbon wrote:
I actually didn't notice until i read the name innovation. Well played, haha.


It isn't April 1st here yet, so when I read the title I was thinking "What??!?!" but when I opened it I immediately saw April 1st at the top and lol'd =D
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
April 01 2016 02:44 GMT
#27
OH, you dicks got me. It's not April yet here.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
April 01 2016 02:48 GMT
#28
Of course
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achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
April 01 2016 02:51 GMT
#29
On April 01 2016 09:20 Rehio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2016 08:20 Saumure wrote:
way too obvious


It's not like anyone actually tries to hide April Fool's jokes. It's meant to be funny, not some hidden trick that everyone's absolutely going to fall for.

Well, by clicking on this link, we have already fell for it.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
April 01 2016 02:51 GMT
#30
lol I was fooled.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10154 Posts
April 01 2016 03:16 GMT
#31
nice fools.
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
April 01 2016 03:22 GMT
#32
ahahahah good job :D
CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-01 03:28:27
April 01 2016 03:23 GMT
#33
didn't AlphaGo beat TY 2-0 yesterday?
tosemusername
Profile Joined October 2015
Brazil8 Posts
April 01 2016 03:33 GMT
#34
Best April Fool's joke so far. Loved it.
Because...
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4549 Posts
April 01 2016 03:40 GMT
#35
Well played. Even machines derped out sometimes
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
April 01 2016 03:53 GMT
#36
Too ridiculous to believe
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
April 01 2016 03:59 GMT
#37
Innovation is an android? what the...
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
April 01 2016 04:17 GMT
#38
At first I was like... wow. no way! thats crazy.

Then i saw the date.

I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
April 01 2016 04:18 GMT
#39
Well done haha
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
April 01 2016 04:20 GMT
#40
haha that was funny
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
April 01 2016 04:28 GMT
#41
Nice one guys
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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
April 01 2016 04:45 GMT
#42
IT took me a minute, but now I get it.
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
April 01 2016 04:58 GMT
#43
ayy lmao
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Incanus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada695 Posts
April 01 2016 05:06 GMT
#44
LOL got me for a second
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insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
April 01 2016 05:18 GMT
#45
I'll be honest you got me for ~10 sec.
Less is more.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33385 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-01 05:20:16
April 01 2016 05:20 GMT
#46
Here's INnoVation having dinner with his development team: https://www.facebook.com/SKsports.T1/posts/1708264119407746
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 01 2016 05:34 GMT
#47
kind of meaningless if you put teh date under the title.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 01 2016 05:56 GMT
#48
Why has this been community news'd?
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 01 2016 06:02 GMT
#49
heh, knew immediately I was about to scroll down to a pic of Bogus
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-01 06:09:56
April 01 2016 06:09 GMT
#50
On April 01 2016 14:34 dAPhREAk wrote:
kind of meaningless if you put teh date under the title.



Yea, bad call.

Anyway, anyone who knows any better would know this is bs though.

The only real way an AI could beat a progamer is if the AI is piggybacked onto a human player of marginal skill/strategy.

Imho, these teams that are making AIs to play the game should instead be making AIs that a gold leaguer could use to beat a programer.

That is more likely to be achieved in a short time frame. And then from there they could try and improve to one that eventually does it solo (which would probably take decades or never happen).

The only problem with this, is that people could easily turn it into hacks.
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Fyrn
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany62 Posts
April 01 2016 06:21 GMT
#51
There's only one true Machine.
"I mean I could always win MLG Providence next year.." - The Little One
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-01 06:28:35
April 01 2016 06:28 GMT
#52
lol nice one !

Waiting for Blizzard's now
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tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
April 01 2016 06:34 GMT
#53
well played
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Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
April 01 2016 06:42 GMT
#54
you know what would have been really believable. A TL staff post now allowing memes to be posted on the forums. I would have believed that. Just imagine how many bans those power trippin' mods would have been able to hand out.
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Asturas
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Finland587 Posts
April 01 2016 06:49 GMT
#55
Good one.

But hell, I hate April Fools...
There are no boundaries, that's the final conclusion.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
April 01 2016 07:13 GMT
#56
Maru showed how you beat the best AI years ago... cheese it.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
April 01 2016 07:17 GMT
#57
"As of yet, we do not know why "INnoVation" malfunctions when playing in World Championship Series Quarterfinals."

Bad software and they're not even aware of why, typical Google
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Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-01 07:23:59
April 01 2016 07:23 GMT
#58
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Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
April 01 2016 07:32 GMT
#59
Wow really Innovation you had me fooled until i read Innovation then was like oh...
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poboxy
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada48 Posts
April 01 2016 07:34 GMT
#60
Yeah right, you got me for 1/2 a second.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
April 01 2016 07:56 GMT
#61
Haha first 5 seconds I was like 'holy shit they conquered the ladder already?' well played
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
April 01 2016 08:11 GMT
#62
I hate April fools. I was eagerly awaiting the Tastosis cast of AI vs human until I read the program's name was Innovation -.-
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flipstar
Profile Joined January 2011
226 Posts
April 01 2016 08:19 GMT
#63
If you didn't put the date right near the headline, I would've at least been fooled for 15 seconds.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
April 01 2016 08:21 GMT
#64
On April 01 2016 16:56 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Haha first 5 seconds I was like 'holy shit they conquered the ladder already?' well played


Same here lol, heart skipped a beat :D
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Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
April 01 2016 08:25 GMT
#65
ayy nice
Kazahk
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States385 Posts
April 01 2016 08:49 GMT
#66
lol wont fool me this time, claim is to outrageous :p
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Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
April 01 2016 08:53 GMT
#67
On April 01 2016 08:08 blade55555 wrote:
April fools wooo!

I dont think its a joke
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2215 Posts
April 01 2016 08:54 GMT
#68
Haha very good
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 01 2016 08:55 GMT
#69
i call bogus
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-01 08:58:16
April 01 2016 08:58 GMT
#70
On April 01 2016 17:55 opterown wrote:
i call bogus


I see what you did there.
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killerm12
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovakia601 Posts
April 01 2016 09:06 GMT
#71
april fools in style, I like it
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hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland931 Posts
April 01 2016 09:24 GMT
#72
Best April Fools are believable, like this.
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Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
April 01 2016 09:32 GMT
#73
Well Played.
But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
Liquid`Snute
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway839 Posts
April 01 2016 09:36 GMT
#74
On April 01 2016 08:04 Yonnua wrote:
Much like it's Go counterpart, "INnoVation" has been able to make moves that no human player would ever think of pulling off, helping it to win matches against even the most veteran of players. However, sometimes those unusual plays ended up hurting the AI's chances. In the finals of the 2013 WCS Season 1 Korea GSL, "INnoVation" attempted to fly all of its defenceless medivacs through a cloud of mutalisks, which onlookers described as "a fucking terrible decision."

hahaha so good
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Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
April 01 2016 09:50 GMT
#75
Haha. Works so well with the glitch moment of flying the medivacs through the mutas.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
April 01 2016 09:56 GMT
#76
I swear these April Fool's jokes get worse and worse with each passing year.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 01 2016 10:39 GMT
#77
I knew innovation was fishy. I knew it!
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
April 01 2016 11:07 GMT
#78
On April 01 2016 08:11 DinoMight wrote:
A bit early? It's still March 31st here

Well... isn't it almost always somewhere 31st of march where on other places its the first april ;-)?
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 01 2016 11:23 GMT
#79
On April 01 2016 20:07 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2016 08:11 DinoMight wrote:
A bit early? It's still March 31st here

Well... isn't it almost always somewhere 31st of march where on other places its the first april ;-)?

April 2nd here. I wish I could say that I'm free from the day of lies but alas now I get to put up with the American version.
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Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
April 01 2016 11:27 GMT
#80
I gave this to someone last night and erased the date .

This morning: "Innovation was actualu an A.I.? Holy shit."

They caught on quick after that. Had a lot of fun.
Goolpsy
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark301 Posts
April 01 2016 11:40 GMT
#81
M-a-d-e M-y D-a-y! Perfect, just perfect :D
WhosQuany
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany257 Posts
April 01 2016 12:08 GMT
#82
hahahaha good one :D
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Mekare
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany393 Posts
April 01 2016 12:39 GMT
#83
lol xD Nice one
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
April 01 2016 12:46 GMT
#84
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Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 01 2016 12:48 GMT
#85
cute one
EmKey
Profile Joined December 2002
Korea (South)631 Posts
April 01 2016 13:27 GMT
#86
meh, its way too obvious
불놀이야
HmmmCookies
Profile Joined March 2014
Canada34 Posts
April 01 2016 14:01 GMT
#87
This article is Bogus
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
April 01 2016 15:34 GMT
#88
Hahaha
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 01 2016 16:35 GMT
#89
LMAO, I come and read the title and I was just like what no way, they just started to talk about it. How is possible that it's already beaten players?... Good one.
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Cam Connor
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada786 Posts
April 01 2016 16:40 GMT
#90
if this was a few years ago i wouldve assumed deepmind was a korean bw b teamer and believed it word for word
post to be
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
April 01 2016 17:02 GMT
#91
On April 01 2016 18:56 Latham wrote:
I swear these April Fool's jokes get worse and worse with each passing year.

This one was pretty good, but I suppose nothing compares to the SC2 Pro Mod http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/news-archive/117987-sc2b-sc2-pro-mod.
greenelve
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April 01 2016 18:29 GMT
#92
this machine is called Innovation? I think there is something bogus with this news about ai beating top sc2 player... >.>
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April 02 2016 04:02 GMT
#93
On April 01 2016 22:30 Seeker wrote:
In regards to April Fools threads:

As long as none of these threads directly attack Blizzard, an organization, a player, or a caster/personality, then we will allow these threads to remain up until April 2. Then, when the clock strikes midnight, we'll burn all of it down with fire and maniacal laughter.
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