EPTNot like the severely outnumbered South Korea's got a choice in the matter anyway, unless they want North Korea to just walk into Seoul. That, or you could always abandon the homeland that raised you and move to another country (like Parting did?)
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riotjune
United States3392 Posts
Not like the severely outnumbered South Korea's got a choice in the matter anyway, unless they want North Korea to just walk into Seoul. That, or you could always abandon the homeland that raised you and move to another country (like Parting did?) | ||
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kenzy_5g
13 Posts
On December 31 2015 01:17 inermis wrote: obligatory miliatary service is a bad idea, military is something more than a job, it should be chosen by you and not be forced upon... Good idea. Let's apply the ethics of our own culture onto others and pretend like we are superior. | ||
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EatingBomber
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On December 31 2015 01:48 riotjune wrote: Military service is the duty of all citizens. Not like the severely outnumbered South Korea's got a choice in the matter anyway, unless they want North Korea to just walk into Seoul. That, or you could always abandon the homeland that raised you and move to another country (like Parting did?) Eh, I'm not gonna judge anyone who doesn't want to spend 2 years working for 50$ a month. Still, I seriously doubt he's truly dodging it, the consequences are too serious. | ||
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Topin
Peru10055 Posts
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Holdenintherye
Canada1441 Posts
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GreenHealing
82 Posts
We as humans, need to have compassion for each other and we MUST find viable ways to create defences for our way of living without breaking every single principle that we so hold dear. | ||
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Voltz_sc21
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EatingBomber
1017 Posts
On December 31 2015 01:35 Laserist wrote: I'd argue this day and age, there is simply no reason for someone learning to do war, let alone your best 2 years of life. Learning how to shoot people will not help you, when a thermo-nuclear war breaks. Better give proper short education on how to survive rather than fire with rifles for 2 years(lol). Military service mostly consists of being a slave to you superiors(!) anyways. This is incredibly simplistic. Even in the nuclear age, there have been numerous ground wars, including the Korean War itself which created S. Korea. Incidentally, it was the USA which threatened nuclear war against China then. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18388 Posts
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EngrishTeacher
Canada1109 Posts
On December 31 2015 01:49 kenzy_5g wrote: Good idea. Let's apply the ethics of our own culture onto others and pretend like we are superior. This. Also from a utilitarian perspective, I've always imagined that conscription improves the overall productivity and other positive social metrics for young men more so than its cost in service time. From my travels in Korea/China, this probably could go either way. I've seen quite a few little spoiled brats turn out for the better through just a half year's worth of military style discipline training, but then again a good portion of my old acquaintances back in the motherland are already insanely hardworking due to the cut-throat professional careers environment. It'd be interesting to look into studies for this, if they exist. | ||
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EatingBomber
1017 Posts
On December 31 2015 01:54 GreenHealing wrote: If you think about this issue in grassroots level, when some 18year old kid is getting dragged out of his home and maybe crying because he and his folks may never see each other again and such pain and sorrow is directly caused by this oppressive state that imposed this law. How can anyone see this justified? Those who dont oppose this, are 100% psychopaths. We as humans, need to have compassion for each other and we MUST find viable ways to create defences for our way of living without breaking every single principle that we so hold dear. Yes yes, some people don't like doing things against their will. Please don't make it sound as if some kind of press gang is roaming Korea forcing kids into the army; this is sanctioned by the South Korean government, which also happens to be democratically elected, so at least even if conscription is not loved, it is not hated either. Yes, compassion is a good virtue, but against the morals of a totalitarian dictatorship? | ||
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rotta
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GreenHealing
82 Posts
On December 31 2015 02:00 EatingBomber wrote: Yes yes, some people don't like doing things against their will. Please don't make it sound as if some kind of press gang is roaming Korea forcing kids into the army; this is sanctioned by the South Korean government, which also happens to be democratically elected, so at least even if conscription is not loved, it is not hated either. Yes, compassion is a good virtue, but against the morals of a totalitarian dictatorship? Those 18 year old kids are gonna get "press ganged" from their homes by military police if they dont show up voluntary. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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billynasty
United States260 Posts
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REyeM
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The_Masked_Shrimp
425 Posts
Second don't forget that North Korean army is like 3 times larger than South Korean army; SK has to compete with it so how would you do that with only a voluntary service? | ||
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
Once over a certain age, going back to Korea is the end of their career If Parting can secure a stable job as a pro in China or Taiwan as a player I don't see there is anything wrong with this. So basically what he want is probably just to play for a few more years by staying oversea, then when he does feel like to retire he will return to Korea. | ||
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Harstem
Netherlands262 Posts
On December 31 2015 02:06 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote: First, 18 yo are adults and not kids. Second don't forget that North Korean army is like 3 times larger than South Korean army; SK has to compete with it so how would you do that with only a voluntary service? South-korea has almost the complete international community on its side | ||
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