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BfA Community Links: GP : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/KKMpKPSlgd?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/v9x5bAF3jD?region=EU&faction=Horde TLEUA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/ALwgJnC5Wo?region=EU&faction=Alliance TLNAH : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/vPrmjJxiVnJ?region=US&faction=Horde TLNAA : https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/invite/YeZj7P0SXLn?region=US&faction=Alliance Bnet: Bnet - https://blizzard.com/invite/amvLM0EubJv On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote: I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother. Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion. Form Spreadsheet If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated. | ||
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Warri
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Redox
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Gorsameth
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On March 16 2017 02:31 Redox wrote: People wasting time because they want to do completely useless rankings is something that annoys the hell out of me. But nothing you can do, just smile and wave. Especially in random raids. But even in my guild I have to walk on egg shells regarding certain topics sometimes. Nothing is as fun as wiping on farm bosses because people are trying to cheese the meters... | ||
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Cyro
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Warri
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Cyro
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Gorsameth
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Background downloader starting several weeks to a month in advance is not unheard of. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
some good points raised here Going into Mythic now after having farmed heroic for 2 months i don't have any mythic gear and 4 bosses drop no loot that i need, 3 of them drop one item and 3 more have multiple/significant upgrades (elisande and gul'dan being two of them), that's unusually low scaling for WoW. EN and TOV had unusually low scaling as well, perhaps for different reasons. Just got legendary #7 after somewhere around 1000kp farmed (fourth week of full clears). Shoulders now, so missing KJ's, Sephuz and Blur Chest :D | ||
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Rebs
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On March 16 2017 22:22 Cyro wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1YLx62dih4 some good points raised here Going into Mythic now after having farmed heroic for 2 months i don't have any mythic gear and 4 bosses drop no loot that i need, 3 of them drop one item and 3 more have multiple/significant upgrades (elisande and gul'dan being two of them), that's unusually low scaling for WoW I agree the scaling is pretty dumb. There is only 1 item I need out of the 7 mythic bosses we have killed. THe rest i got lucky with TF and WF's out of heroic. And the gains for 5-10 i levels are minor enough for me to just offer to sit out everything (if I can till progression bosses). | ||
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Mysticesper
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Cyro
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 That's why relics are the only thing that i need from those M bosses and even still need 2 from heroic gul'dan | ||
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Warri
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Cyro
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and this guy goes on about killtimes not decreasing Based on actual killtime data that shows throne(?) killtimes dramatically decreasing over time while NH killtimes are almost the same as they always were. It's clearly happening, the only discussion is why I'm 922 bag without any mythic gear. The guys with "real" mythic gear outsim me by quite a bit, mostly from having farmed mythic for 2 months of warforging.. but not by that much. We all jumped up massively going into Nighthold gear, from 450k simDPS to 750-820k, but they didn't get much more than me from being in Mythic stuff instead of Heroic stuff that was warforged by more on average. The gap between tiers is still the same, 15ilvls, but most players have probably killed WAY more heroic bosses than mythic bosses unless they got deep into mythic very early in the tier. Those guys cannot possibly have bonus rolled Gul'dan Mythic 15 times. More heroic gear = average ilvl is increased by more than the mythic gear was, ilvl gap is smaller. | ||
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DickMcFanny
Ireland1076 Posts
Assuming that mythic+ dungeons are scalable and yielding rewards that scale with the m+ level, can't you acquire gear that is better than what you can get during the current raid content? Like, you don't need to do raids to keep scaling mythics, right? So what's stopping you from being overgeared already when a new raid comes out? | ||
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Seuss
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Gorsameth
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On March 17 2017 05:48 DickMcFanny wrote: Okay, I completely missed everything this expansion, so this question may hinge on stupid assumptions: Assuming that mythic+ dungeons are scalable and yielding rewards that scale with the m+ level, can't you acquire gear that is better than what you can get during the current raid content? Like, you don't need to do raids to keep scaling mythics, right? So what's stopping you from being overgeared already when a new raid comes out? At the moment gear scaling in M+ is capped at 885 (I think) on M15. The weekly chest caps at 900 (also M15) | ||
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DickMcFanny
Ireland1076 Posts
So (numbers pulled out of my ass) if you get 880 gear from M+10 and heroic raids also give M+10, why not use that 880 gear to do M+12 and get level 900 gear? My point is, can't gear from Mythic+ dungeons get you to the point where you can't progress any further, beyond what a raid can give you? | ||
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Gorsameth
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On March 17 2017 05:59 DickMcFanny wrote: That's what I don't get. I thought the gear drops scale with the Mythic+ level. So (numbers pulled out of my ass) if you get 880 gear from M+10 and heroic raids also give M+10, why not use that 880 gear to do M+12 and get level 900 gear? My point is, can't gear from Mythic+ dungeons get you to the point where you can't progress any further, beyond what a raid can give you? Yes, running M15 will get you to roughly Heroic Nighhold level. (bit below since later heroic bosses drop 890) And yes this is part of why the very top end of guilds farmed M+ for a while. To get gear (and AP) | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10167 Posts
On March 17 2017 05:54 Seuss wrote: M+ can yield gear that's comparable to Heroic difficulty raids, but not Mythic difficulty raids unless you get lucky Titanforges. You can get 925s from mythic+. They are not that rare if you are farming 3chest 15+. atleast to gear yourself with 900+ (and bis stats)-. On March 17 2017 05:59 DickMcFanny wrote: My point is, can't gear from Mythic+ dungeons get you to the point where you can't progress any further, beyond what a raid can give you? Apart from a few odd slots (such as gul'dan trinket for casters or warriors), and tier slots, that's correct. | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
On March 17 2017 05:05 Cyro wrote: Based on actual killtime data that shows throne(?) killtimes dramatically decreasing over time while NH killtimes are almost the same as they always were. It's clearly happening, the only discussion is why I dont see it clearly happening. Trilliax kills vary from like 5:30 to 3:30 on the top 200 from different guilds. Krosus varies from 6:02 to 4:54. Spellblade top 100 from 7:59 to 5:38. Ticho 8:02 to 6:39. Botanist 9:05 to 6:59. Thats just 2 months and only 40 guilds have it clear. When i raided it took us 4 months to clear ToT and that was top 150. 6 months for SoO and that was top 300. Kills got faster when you were at 8/10 or 9/10 and it still took you a month to beat the last boss because he was a fucking bitch. Kills wont get faster when you are 5/10 now and your first kill needed everyone on 910 severely outgearing the boss already to just bout beat the enrage. | ||
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