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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
September 24 2016 22:18 GMT
#2801
On September 25 2016 07:13 LaNague wrote:
110 takes literally 1 morning and afternoon.
Then another few hours for suramar friendly, thats it.

It might be annoying to quest, but it is pretty quick, i personally use ConsLegion addon which just tells you where to go with very nice waypoints

I'll check out the addon, haven't used anything along those lines. But from my own experience and conversation with friends the road to 110 felt like it took a while, both /played time and spread over multiple days if you don't always have a lot of time to play each day. I know there's probably players that can sit and marathon it on a Saturday with efficient planning, but there are many others out there for which it takes a while in game and out.

Again, this isn't a problem. At all. It's just different, and means putting much more love into few characters, which we haven't been required (or even able) to do in a long time.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-24 23:26:04
September 24 2016 23:25 GMT
#2802
All of these class changes will be applied during the next scheduled weekly maintenance period in each region. Note that there are also a number of PvP-specific changes, which are noted separately below.


Strange because in those tuning notes, it said the pvp world quests honor gained would get reduced to 150 from 300.
So i just finished one of those and i received 150 honor.

Isnt next maintenance the normal time? Like tuesday-wednesday?


Then i check my warrior honor talent. In notes it says The echo slam from 10% to 5% but it still says 10% in game.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
September 25 2016 00:04 GMT
#2803
About the conslegion, can you turn off bonus objectives? I almost never do them unless it's like 80% done
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 25 2016 00:50 GMT
#2804
Leveling is pretty fast in my experience, then again I also leveld during MoP and I fucking hated that.
WriterXiao8~~
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 25 2016 00:52 GMT
#2805
On September 25 2016 09:04 crappen wrote:
About the conslegion, can you turn off bonus objectives? I almost never do them unless it's like 80% done


Just type /conslegion skip if you want to skip something
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Dirtyharry
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany171 Posts
September 25 2016 05:27 GMT
#2806
That spriest nerf, omg. I just hope they take a look at LotV and Mindspike.
I was in Ravenholm
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20335 Posts
September 25 2016 05:51 GMT
#2807
On September 25 2016 14:27 Dirtyharry wrote:
That spriest nerf, omg. I just hope they take a look at LotV and Mindspike.


[image loading]
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Dirtyharry
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany171 Posts
September 25 2016 06:32 GMT
#2808
On September 25 2016 14:51 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2016 14:27 Dirtyharry wrote:
That spriest nerf, omg. I just hope they take a look at LotV and Mindspike.


[image loading]

^Thats good, I have huge problems on fights with lots of targetswitching and movement. Sure, it has a lot to do with skill/boss knowledge, but also with what your class allows you to do.
I was in Ravenholm
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22425 Posts
September 25 2016 08:58 GMT
#2809
On September 25 2016 14:51 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2016 14:27 Dirtyharry wrote:
That spriest nerf, omg. I just hope they take a look at LotV and Mindspike.


[image loading]

The changes go live in 3 days. Sorry if I'm not confident in their ability to bring balance in that time.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 25 2016 09:19 GMT
#2810
Not very confideny eithet but its good causr i have the nost issues with those changes(dh st nerf not aoe, altho they are the same)
WriterXiao8~~
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-25 10:49:42
September 25 2016 10:48 GMT
#2811
prot wars just suck at mythic+7. even with heroic leap + thunderclap + battle cry + trinkets + neltharian fury I still cant hold aggro lol. best way to hold "aggro" is to just chain stun them. shockwave is incredibly strong in this regard.
Skol
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 25 2016 11:02 GMT
#2812
Erm, you realize this week both regions had skittish trait at 7 I think, which means you simply can't hold agro if people aoe/cleave? You're meant to single target things down with that.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22425 Posts
September 25 2016 11:10 GMT
#2813
I'm amazed people are playing 7+ without realizing what the modifiers do...
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 25 2016 11:12 GMT
#2814
well i had +4 where people dont know the bosses or dangerous trash mobs....
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
September 25 2016 11:23 GMT
#2815
I didn't even know mythic+ had modifiers. Must be super geared if you can single tar dps trash mobs and still beat timer.
Skol
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22425 Posts
September 25 2016 11:59 GMT
#2816
pretty sure you can still aoe with skittish, and need to in order to make good timers but imo high mythic+ becomes a lot more about stuns since mob damage is so high that many abilities are simply fatal to someone if they go off.
Running stuff like Prot warrior, enh + resto shaman, Havoc DH for 4 aoe stuns every trash pack becomes really good.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
September 25 2016 12:01 GMT
#2817
+1 and +2 timers are really lenient, especially on lower levels, for current gear (845ish).
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 25 2016 12:14 GMT
#2818
On September 25 2016 07:10 Duka08 wrote:
Even as a more casual player I would still say alts are tough in Legion. Leveling seems to take longer than many of the last expansions and there's a lot of "unlocking" (Suramar, Order Hall campaign) to do even once you finally hit 110. Once you get a toon to the "comfy" spot of world quests and dungeon progress, with most Suramar stuff done, then it's pretty neat and flexible. But that can take a while if you're only playing a couple hours a day tops.

This works both ways because it gives casual players that DON'T care about alts and just love their main a TON of content to do, which is ultimately much better for everyone imo. But it can be a little discouraging for folks that like splitting their time between toons. I've had to focus time into only two characters myself. I thought I'd do my mage first then level a tank (DH) and healer (probably shaman) to have the options open, and I still have barely scratched 101 on my shaman and just don't feel motivated to do so yet. Though I'm enjoying the other two enough that it tends to outweigh the "man I'd love to play [this class] but it's just too much work now". I haven't finished the class hall campaign on my DH either.

I think people became accustomed to playing multiple characters due to a lack of content in the past 2-3 expansions, so they had to find something interesting to do. Now that there's enough content for someone to play "their main" 24/7 and enjoy it, sort of like vanilla days, the folks that have all these 100s just sitting around feel weird not planning on touching them for many months lol. That's my perspective at least. It's more of a psychological hurdle, rather than something wrong with the game.

This is pretty well on thr money. Plus the fact that Atifacts encourage single character play, since AP and Relics affect your dps abd ilevel in a pretty huge way, and falling behind on that is big.

For a player like me, who doesn't have time to be a full time raider but gets in on alt runs with the guild and Mythic+, I don't want the times my main is actually able to do stuff to be really behind, so the lower amount of time I have often has to be focusef on him rather than what I feel like playing at the time.

I love that WQs and Heroics and Mythics are constantly giving you a point to chase, I really do and it's so much fun, but it just makes my alt heart hurt a bit. Doesn't stop me from loving this expac.
It's your boy Guzma!
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 25 2016 12:21 GMT
#2819
On September 25 2016 20:59 Gorsameth wrote:
pretty sure you can still aoe with skittish, and need to in order to make good timers but imo high mythic+ becomes a lot more about stuns since mob damage is so high that many abilities are simply fatal to someone if they go off.
Running stuff like Prot warrior, enh + resto shaman, Havoc DH for 4 aoe stuns every trash pack becomes really good.


You DR the mob packs very quick with 4 stuns. Better mix in other CC types as well in there. Prot warrior is still awesome though.

We used a rogue to tricks the tank so everyone can do mild aoe from the start, but it's still mainly about focus firing the most dangerous mobs down.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
September 25 2016 13:00 GMT
#2820
On September 25 2016 21:14 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2016 07:10 Duka08 wrote:
Even as a more casual player I would still say alts are tough in Legion. Leveling seems to take longer than many of the last expansions and there's a lot of "unlocking" (Suramar, Order Hall campaign) to do even once you finally hit 110. Once you get a toon to the "comfy" spot of world quests and dungeon progress, with most Suramar stuff done, then it's pretty neat and flexible. But that can take a while if you're only playing a couple hours a day tops.

This works both ways because it gives casual players that DON'T care about alts and just love their main a TON of content to do, which is ultimately much better for everyone imo. But it can be a little discouraging for folks that like splitting their time between toons. I've had to focus time into only two characters myself. I thought I'd do my mage first then level a tank (DH) and healer (probably shaman) to have the options open, and I still have barely scratched 101 on my shaman and just don't feel motivated to do so yet. Though I'm enjoying the other two enough that it tends to outweigh the "man I'd love to play [this class] but it's just too much work now". I haven't finished the class hall campaign on my DH either.

I think people became accustomed to playing multiple characters due to a lack of content in the past 2-3 expansions, so they had to find something interesting to do. Now that there's enough content for someone to play "their main" 24/7 and enjoy it, sort of like vanilla days, the folks that have all these 100s just sitting around feel weird not planning on touching them for many months lol. That's my perspective at least. It's more of a psychological hurdle, rather than something wrong with the game.

This is pretty well on thr money. Plus the fact that Atifacts encourage single character play, since AP and Relics affect your dps abd ilevel in a pretty huge way, and falling behind on that is big.

For a player like me, who doesn't have time to be a full time raider but gets in on alt runs with the guild and Mythic+, I don't want the times my main is actually able to do stuff to be really behind, so the lower amount of time I have often has to be focusef on him rather than what I feel like playing at the time.

I love that WQs and Heroics and Mythics are constantly giving you a point to chase, I really do and it's so much fun, but it just makes my alt heart hurt a bit. Doesn't stop me from loving this expac.

I get what you're saying, but since I'm trying not to sink too much time into the game, I just treat all characters as alts.
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