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On November 03 2016 06:57 GTR wrote:
I've created a Google Form/Spreadsheet for people to help add eachother.

Hopefully this will makes things easier for us to find people for Mythic+ runs and what not as opposed to sifting through 150+ pages of discussion.

Form
Spreadsheet

If a moderator could add this as a moderator note at the top it'd be appreciated.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-13 21:17:48
September 13 2016 17:31 GMT
#2301
I doubt it's representative of the general population, polls from mmo champion, reddit etc are usually not because the community in general of people who visit websites, forums about the game is quite different to the people who just play without doing that. They still have some good information in there, though, and a lot of it matches up strongly with my personal experience in game.

Hunter is 2nd from bottom and Shaman is way up?population


Shaman being carried hard by resto spec, many people have been vocal about its strength in the last 3 months
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21647 Posts
September 13 2016 17:36 GMT
#2302
On September 14 2016 02:31 Cyro wrote:
I doubt it's representative of the general population, polls from mmo champion, reddit etc are usually not because the community in general of people who visit websites, forums about the game is quite different to the people who just play without doing that. They still have some good information in there, though, and a lot of it matches up strongly with my personal experience in game.

Show nested quote +
Hunter is 2nd from bottom and Shaman is way up?population


Shaman being carried hard by resto spec, many people have been vocal about its strength in the last 3 months.

Same reason why Lock is down so far. Lots of bad stuff about warlock viability before launch.

I would much rather see an armory census like MMO-C has done in the past but sadly thats no use with the updates being borked.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-13 17:58:02
September 13 2016 17:38 GMT
#2303
Same reason why Lock is down so far. Lots of bad stuff about warlock viability before launch.


Not just viability but design. Most locks on forums and that i've talked to ingame are not happy about anything right now. Hunters not pleased either but they are a bit more playable and numerically strong.

There is a big balance patch coming but it's still not all that fun to play a spec that performs much worse than other specs - word from blizzard is also that they're planning on keeping the amazing specs as the best specs rather than overnerfing them as well, so there is a lot of reason to switch onto the FOTM spec at launch.

I hope that we get both raid and dungeon capabilities taken into account for the balance patch because some specs like WW monk, havoc DH, fire mage, BM hunter absolutely destroy some entire classes for overall damage on dungeons. They could be toned down, but some classes are clearly lacking. Balance druid for example went from a great AOE DPS a few months ago to being completely uncompetitive
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-13 18:21:08
September 13 2016 18:18 GMT
#2304
On September 13 2016 19:49 crappen wrote:
How are Brewmaster monks doing? I haven't been with one yet, and thinking about putting some effort into my BrM offspec. Are they doing okeyish damage compared to the rest? Tanked HoV hc yesterday, but was so busy with learning the spec on the fly that I forgot to check meter.

How are you guys approaching a pull, or double pull? Get blackout combo -> Ironbrew up fast, clear when above 40% stagger? Use blackout combo always on Keg smash for reduced CD on brews? If anyone has a 5-8 first buttons pressed list on packs would be neat to check if I got it right. Cause it's the Blackout Combo that makes me unsure. Should I never use Keg smash or Breath of fire unless I have this buff up?



BrM is on the same spot as disc pretty much. Spec changed a lot of and got harder > baddies can't play harder spec> cry the spec is bad. If you like it just continue learning it, brm is viable for everything you are going to do. Simply put the effort to learn th spec and you're set in 99% scenarios in this game.

http://brewingmastery.blogspot.fi/2016/08/legion-brewmaster-faq.html
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
September 13 2016 18:26 GMT
#2305
warlocks are just really whiny, they went full warrior on the forums - if everyone would do what they did blizzard should shut down the forums O.o

i only know me who plays survival, have not seen one sv since release. was foreseeable thou - in wcl world wide there were 2 other sv hunters who actually knew how to play
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 13 2016 18:27 GMT
#2306
Speaking of which, im going to try Survival on my alt right now because tbh Markmanship bores the fuck out of me(like REALLY boring)

plus barrage/sidewinders go all over the place and pull everything

do you use any addons/weakauras or have any tips for survival?
WriterXiao8~~
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
September 13 2016 18:35 GMT
#2307
warlocks are just really whiny, they went full warrior on the forums


They had good reason to. The game would be a lot worse if everyone sat back, took whatever awful version came out of the doors and paid full money for it every time without question
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 13 2016 18:48 GMT
#2308
On September 14 2016 02:27 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2016 02:06 Cyro wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/rwNF2wk.png

A poll of the reddit community (class/spec distribution)



Pretty brutal data for Warlocks. All 3 specs combined add up to less than 5% while every other class has at least a full 2 percentage points over them.

Also really interesting to see that Mages are almost 100% fire spec.

Hunter is 2nd from bottom and Shaman is way up? Definitely can't be representative of the general WoW population. Hunters have been the most popular class for pretty much every expansion, while Shamans have sucked and been pariahs for most expansions.

Which is strange because I'm keeping up in dps with people way more geared than myself when I just hit 814 with my Hunter. They're not doing bad at all, but I suppose they did change it a lot from what people enjoyed before. I still think it's fun.
It's your boy Guzma!
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10655 Posts
September 13 2016 18:49 GMT
#2309
I wish I could track how much AP I need left before I get the 100k achievement.
Skol
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21647 Posts
September 13 2016 18:57 GMT
#2310
On September 14 2016 03:49 Emnjay808 wrote:
I wish I could track how much AP I need left before I get the 100k achievement.

19 points in main artifact, 13 in offspec and then another 4-5k.

And yes a total AP earned number under statistics would be nice.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
September 13 2016 18:59 GMT
#2311
On September 14 2016 03:49 Emnjay808 wrote:
I wish I could track how much AP I need left before I get the 100k achievement.


between rank 19 and 20 if you have not spent anything on offspec
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6204 Posts
September 13 2016 19:06 GMT
#2312
On September 14 2016 02:06 Cyro wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/rwNF2wk.png

A poll of the reddit community (class/spec distribution)


Frost DK not very popular ^^. I'm maining it and liking it a lot though. Didn't like the DK changes at first but I'm enjoying myself now.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
September 13 2016 19:12 GMT
#2313
On September 14 2016 04:06 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2016 02:06 Cyro wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/rwNF2wk.png

A poll of the reddit community (class/spec distribution)


Frost DK not very popular ^^. I'm maining it and liking it a lot though. Didn't like the DK changes at first but I'm enjoying myself now.


A lot of the straight out undertuned specs are not very popular. With blizz comitting to keep the good specs on top for the sake of people not having to switch artifacts i expect worse performing specs to be even less popular than before
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
September 13 2016 19:38 GMT
#2314
Im actually surprised there are that many priests, especially shadow.
As for hunter, maybe people got bored. Marksman is so stupidly simple there is literally no way you can do wrong and you barely have to push any buttons with the long cooldowns on the good spells.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-13 19:50:47
September 13 2016 19:50 GMT
#2315
About hunters, they looked so fun in wotlk. I always said to myself "damn i want a hunter".
Now though, oh man they really made him utterly boring.

akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
September 13 2016 19:51 GMT
#2316
Warlock being dead last is not really surprising. That's what happens when you basically nuke the class to levels worse than vanilla. Doomguard (the only baseline cd) tends to derp more than cast and is on the GCD, costs a soul shard, same with Grimoire of Service pets. Then you take the only cool mobility spell in the game (the circle), make it clunky and a talent on the same row with a sprint and a relatively strong defensive. Zero casting while moving, KJC is gone entirely. Rotation made really strict and clunky, so you can't really save instants anymore. Non existant aoe. Demo is probably gonna be unplayable on some bosses cause pets will glitch.

Way to bury a class Blizz!
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-13 20:17:05
September 13 2016 20:16 GMT
#2317
Warlocks have always been one of the rarest classes - even back in vanilla. I remember looking at census sites a lot back in Vanilla/BC and Warlock/Druid were always the rarest (aside from the single faction Paladin/Shaman in vanilla)

Interesting to note how while Warlocks have kept their status, Druids have ended up the most populous. They've come a long way from being only widely accepted as Resto back in vanilla to being the only quad-spec class in the game capable of performing all 4 roles.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 13 2016 20:21 GMT
#2318
On September 14 2016 02:31 Cyro wrote:
Shaman being carried hard by resto spec, many people have been vocal about its strength in the last 3 months. It's also interesting to note that people are massively opting out of the melee specs in favor of ranged for Hunter, Shaman but not for Druid

Melee shaman is the most played shaman spec while noone plays ele according to that data, maybe you misread?
Off-season = best season
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4160 Posts
September 13 2016 20:26 GMT
#2319
On September 14 2016 05:16 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Warlocks have always been one of the rarest classes - even back in vanilla. I remember looking at census sites a lot back in Vanilla/BC and Warlock/Druid were always the rarest (aside from the single faction Paladin/Shaman in vanilla)

Interesting to note how while Warlocks have kept their status, Druids have ended up the most populous. They've come a long way from being only widely accepted as Resto back in vanilla to being the only quad-spec class in the game capable of performing all 4 roles.

I think monks have supplanted warlock as the least played class.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-13 21:13:00
September 13 2016 20:52 GMT
#2320
One thing that i do need to complain about is the fact that world quests that arent "PvP related", specifically killing a boss or mob, is impossible on Alliance for me. I know i am on a PvP server for a reason and i shouldnt complain, but when Blizzard allows my server/battlegroup to be so lopsided in population of factions to the point where i almost never see other Alliance and only Horde (who usually 4+vs1 me), then its completely negating the concept of "fair PvP".

**Not even mentioning the buggy as fuck follower/bodyguard system that can stick a 4M health bear to you that can cast spells and wont de-aggro for a long time.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
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