• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:19
CEST 17:19
KST 00:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy13
Community News
LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments2Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris53Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!15
StarCraft 2
General
Production Quality - Maestros of the Game Vs RSL 2 Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Heaven's Balance Suggestions (roast me) Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview
Tourneys
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies
Brood War
General
ASL20 General Discussion BW General Discussion Victoria gamers Pros React To: herO's Baffling Game BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[IPSL] ISPL Season 1 Winter Qualis and Info! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Is there English video for group selection for ASL Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Collective Intelligence: Tea…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1095 users

Ukraine Crisis - Page 67

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 65 66 67 68 69 577 Next
There is a new policy in effect in this thread. Anyone not complying will be moderated.

New policy, please read before posting:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21393711
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5612 Posts
February 23 2014 17:50 GMT
#1321
On February 24 2014 01:46 darkness wrote:
Some people in Bulgaria have painted the Soviet army statue like this to support Ukraine:

[image loading]

This is from today. If you ask why we still have such a statue, then this is a really good question that needs to be pointed to ex-communists.


I would add an NKVD officer behind the soldiers to the statue - aiming at his own soldiers, like they used to. Would be so fitting.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
February 23 2014 17:52 GMT
#1322
On February 23 2014 21:37 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 21:11 maybenexttime wrote:
On February 23 2014 21:02 Novel wrote:
Cool, the opposition erased regional status of russian language in the East Ukraine. Which means that there will be problems with russian cinemas, kindergardens and so on. Yeah, totally right step...


How did they do that? Aren't they in the minority in that part of Ukraine? Is this confirmed?

They have revoked this law http://www.usefoundation.org/view/628
Which mean Polish and Hungarian too, not just Russian. Though only Russian sources for now, went through at 15:16

edit: Svoboda (who Right Sector says is too liberal, you know, the armed thugs 'watching over' parliament) is also advocating revoking Ukrainian citizenship from 'non-Ukrainian' citizens


Need photoshopped picture of Hitler personally signing the law to confirm.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
February 23 2014 18:15 GMT
#1323
On February 24 2014 02:22 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 02:11 Nyxisto wrote:
On February 24 2014 02:02 darkness wrote:
On February 24 2014 01:58 xDaunt wrote:
On February 24 2014 01:46 darkness wrote:
Some people in Bulgaria have painted the Soviet army statue like this to support Ukraine:

[image loading]

This is from today. If you ask why we still have such a statue, then this is a really good question that needs to be pointed to ex-communists.

Hey, look on the bright side. I doubt that any of those statutes is more shameful than the one sitting in Berlin.


Is it Hitler or Karl Marx? I'm not aware of their statues.


Yes i can confirm, Hitler statues everywhere here.
On February 24 2014 02:09 xDaunt wrote:
The Soviet war memorial on the road to the Brandenburg Gate from West Berlin.

Well one-hundred thousand Soviets died just during the battle of Berlin, so I think it's okay that they get a memorial.(Also the statue shows a Soviet soldier with a German child in his hands over a broken swastika,what's so shameful about that?)

I don't want to derail the thread, but let's just say that Americans with their current sense of national pride would never tolerate something like that being on American soil, much less in the capital. Germans obviously have a very different perspective given their history and how they have been educating their children for several generations now.


It's not a matter of pride or perspective. Germany lost the war: all this is part of the peace deal. Maybe some of it is internalized by younger generations but if they rebelled against it they would be quickly isolated by the winning powers.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
February 23 2014 18:49 GMT
#1324
Hm... there are war memorials remembering quite a lot of nations on german soil. And why would anyone wan to remove them? (and why would anyone suggest to remove the soviet ones, but not the western ones?) Those soldiers fought here, those soldiers died here, those soldiers are memorialized here.

France has several francogerman war memorials as well... And they were not dictated those by any peace deals...
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 19:38:07
February 23 2014 19:37 GMT
#1325
A video from the inside of the house of one of the top Yanukovich allies, Pshonka, Prosecutor General.
From 1:30
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
February 23 2014 19:41 GMT
#1326
In memory of those who died
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
February 23 2014 19:49 GMT
#1327
Wow, that guy lives in a place like a palace, yet he has Christian icons. I mean... it's kind of a contradiction to me.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
February 23 2014 19:50 GMT
#1328
This topic becomes something more than just s discussion thread, it is already a news show with "breaking news and rumors", a historical and ethnical lessons, where people all over the world debating each other about current situtation in Ukraine with knowleges from mass media. A guy from Serbia debating with guy from Poland, a guy from Germany debating with guy from US, and noone gonna overpersuade anyone :D
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
February 23 2014 19:56 GMT
#1329
Local Maidan in Saint Petersburg stood for 20 minutes
[image loading]
Lwerewolf
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria78 Posts
February 23 2014 20:05 GMT
#1330
On February 24 2014 04:50 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
This topic becomes something more than just s discussion thread, it is already a news show with "breaking news and rumors", a historical and ethnical lessons, ...


So new developments on the topic should not be mentioned in the topic?

On February 24 2014 04:50 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
...where people all over the world debating each other about current situtation in Ukraine with knowleges from mass media.


Only mass media?

On February 24 2014 04:50 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
A guy from Serbia debating with guy from Poland, a guy from Germany debating with guy from US, and noone gonna overpersuade anyone :D


Or maybe people are sharing points of view and that's one way of making sure that they understand the situation more thoroughly.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
February 23 2014 20:15 GMT
#1331
On February 24 2014 04:37 Cheerio wrote:
A video from the inside of the house of one of the top Yanukovich allies, Pshonka, Prosecutor General.
From 1:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95ZpUYcYX8c

where is her accent from? sounds so weird.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
February 23 2014 20:16 GMT
#1332
On February 24 2014 05:05 Lwerewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 04:50 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
A guy from Serbia debating with guy from Poland, a guy from Germany debating with guy from US, and noone gonna overpersuade anyone :D


Or maybe people are sharing points of view and that's one way of making sure that they understand the situation more thoroughly.


The way I see it, internet forums are rarely about convincing the person you're arguing against, but about convincing the rest of the audience.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
February 23 2014 20:25 GMT
#1333
On February 24 2014 05:16 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 05:05 Lwerewolf wrote:
On February 24 2014 04:50 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
A guy from Serbia debating with guy from Poland, a guy from Germany debating with guy from US, and noone gonna overpersuade anyone :D


Or maybe people are sharing points of view and that's one way of making sure that they understand the situation more thoroughly.


The way I see it, internet forums are rarely about convincing the person you're arguing against, but about convincing the rest of the audience.

Maybe but unless Putin and Obama are reading this forum (I mean really reading, not having the NSA vacuum this data up) then I doubt anyone on here is going to change anything in the real world.
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
February 23 2014 20:47 GMT
#1334
Some oligarhs (most importantly Ahmetov and Kolomoyskiy, and Poroshenko naturally) and local high-ranked Eastern Ukraine officials claimed they would not allow for the separation of Ukraine.
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
February 23 2014 20:58 GMT
#1335
Automaidan and numerous Euromaidan activists in their interviews have already claimed they would be in opposition to the current authorities. Euromaidan stays for now.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-23 21:19:22
February 23 2014 21:18 GMT
#1336
On February 24 2014 05:16 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 05:05 Lwerewolf wrote:
On February 24 2014 04:50 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
A guy from Serbia debating with guy from Poland, a guy from Germany debating with guy from US, and noone gonna overpersuade anyone :D


Or maybe people are sharing points of view and that's one way of making sure that they understand the situation more thoroughly.


The way I see it, internet forums are rarely about convincing the person you're arguing against, but about convincing the rest of the audience.


That's all arguments that have an audience to convince, not just the ones on the internet. Very rarely do you have an argument where one or both sides isn't strongly convinced they're right.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
February 23 2014 22:33 GMT
#1337
20 billion euros of loans are available for Ukraine, Elmar Brok, Chairman of the European Parliament Committee on Foreign Affairs, told 1+1 news.
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
February 23 2014 22:36 GMT
#1338
On February 24 2014 06:18 DeepElemBlues wrote:
...

Btw, thanks for your posts in this thread. You made lots of very good points.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15345 Posts
February 23 2014 22:37 GMT
#1339
Division in Ukraine might be overstated in Western media: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/02/22/a_house_united
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 23 2014 22:38 GMT
#1340
On February 24 2014 04:50 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
This topic becomes something more than just s discussion thread, it is already a news show with "breaking news and rumors", a historical and ethnical lessons, where people all over the world debating each other about current situtation in Ukraine with knowleges from mass media. A guy from Serbia debating with guy from Poland, a guy from Germany debating with guy from US, and noone gonna overpersuade anyone :D
This differs from the usual stock of General Forum threads exactly how? Secondly, imagine if users couldn't select their country of origin to display on their posts. Would it help you to not overtly see that its a Serbian with that opinion, or a Pole with another? This is an international forum.

You can't reasonably expect participators to say, "Good sir, I was wrong." From discussion we learn opposing points of views and why they believe them, more news from foreign sources, etc. I would never have known that Bulgaria had a statue like that still extent or that it was painted in solidarity for Ukraine.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Prev 1 65 66 67 68 69 577 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Cosmonarchy
14:00
Showmatch #4
TriGGeR vs YoungYakov
YoungYakov vs HonMonO
HonMonO vs TriGGeR
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 7877
Jaedong 2112
EffOrt 1099
Larva 909
firebathero 686
ZerO 632
BeSt 535
Stork 417
actioN 376
Nal_rA 263
[ Show more ]
Rush 245
Mini 229
Hyuk 169
ggaemo 164
TY 103
PianO 84
Dewaltoss 68
Movie 67
ToSsGirL 44
Free 43
zelot 38
Yoon 34
Backho 32
Noble 30
sorry 28
HiyA 22
Rock 21
ajuk12(nOOB) 18
yabsab 12
Terrorterran 8
SilentControl 8
sSak 6
ivOry 4
IntoTheRainbow 4
Dota 2
The International47330
Gorgc12977
qojqva731
Dendi618
Fuzer 247
XcaliburYe114
League of Legends
JimRising 366
Counter-Strike
fl0m2163
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu415
Khaldor237
Other Games
B2W.Neo1411
singsing1387
crisheroes406
Hui .264
SortOf186
KnowMe182
ToD117
mouzStarbuck112
QueenE72
ZerO(Twitch)15
Mlord9
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 6
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• iHatsuTV 40
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix12
• Pr0nogo 11
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV221
League of Legends
• Nemesis3149
• Jankos884
Upcoming Events
Maestros of the Game
1h 41m
Solar vs Bunny
Clem vs Rogue
[BSL 2025] Weekly
2h 41m
OSC
6h 41m
RSL Revival
18h 41m
Cure vs Bunny
Creator vs Zoun
Maestros of the Game
1d 1h
Maru vs Lambo
herO vs ShoWTimE
BSL Team Wars
1d 3h
Team Hawk vs Team Sziky
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 18h
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
The PondCast
4 days
Online Event
5 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Maestros of the Game
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-02
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025: Warsaw LAN
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.