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SilentchiLL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany1405 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 09:15:43
March 06 2014 09:11 GMT
#4361
On March 06 2014 16:12 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:


Your realize that Germany was conquered and bent to our will, right? That's what made things change hehe.
Completely different scenario.




I know, or atleast hope that this was just a joke, since Germany was a democracy before world war 2 already, but if you ever wondered where some of the jokes and opinions on americans spawn from, it's statements like this one that cause them.
And yes, I'm German, therefore I'm allowed not to get humour (HAH!)
possum, sed nolo - Real men play random. ___ "Who the fuck is Kyle?!" C*****EX
likeasu
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation88 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 10:01:37
March 06 2014 09:20 GMT
#4362
On March 06 2014 17:18 Roman666 wrote:
So much for the Crimean "selfdefence":



I read this russian text.. There is only surname Dosanov on foto. How do author know "his name" is Arman?? I`m very interesting =)) And absolutely there is no information about russian city "Saratov" from this text. I really cant believe this foto 100%.
But I heard an interview of one of this "secret green" guys in Crimea, he said: "soon you will be surprised by knowing who we are in real. We will show you our passports, just after we get the order to do it".
Lets come back to the solder from Sarotov and Odnoklassniki. Some pictures from video:
picture 1
text on uniform under red line
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picture 2
The face of soldier in this uniform we can see only in very-very short time and from the lift side. Why the video-operator had shooted only his text on uniform and not his face clearly (soldier has no mask!!)???
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picture 3
It is a same faces?? Pffff
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 09:30:40
March 06 2014 09:25 GMT
#4363
On March 06 2014 18:20 likeasu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 17:18 Roman666 wrote:
So much for the Crimean "selfdefence":

https://twitter.com/russian_market/status/440881797078200320


I read this russian text.. There is only surname Dosanov on foto. How do author know "his name" is Arman?? I`m very interesting =))

odnoklasnki! The photo is from a screen grab of the video of the Russian special forces - -i mean self defense force of crimea -- breaking into the electric utility of the Ukrainian Naval base to turn of their power. In the youtube at the link below everyone is speaking in Russian.
http://pan-andriy.livejournal.com/743146.html
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 09:33:11
March 06 2014 09:31 GMT
#4364


Its too bad the only person they could get to interview her is that slime ball pierce morgan. Where are you Anderson Cooper when the world needs you?
Ah, found Anderson Cooper. So much better:

Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 06 2014 09:35 GMT
#4365

A referendum on the Crimean autonomy status will be held in Crimea on March 16, Vice Premier of Crimean autonomy said.
Voice of Russia


What did Putin and Lavrov say again regarding the legitimacy of voting at gunpoint?
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 06 2014 09:37 GMT
#4366
On March 06 2014 18:35 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +

A referendum on the Crimean autonomy status will be held in Crimea on March 16, Vice Premier of Crimean autonomy said.
Voice of Russia


What did Putin and Lavrov say again regarding the legitimacy of voting at gunpoint?

lol. From May 25, to March 30, to March 16.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 06 2014 09:41 GMT
#4367
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/e3be7240-a2fa-11e3-9685-00144feab7de.html?siteedition=intl#axzz2vA4SdpUD


As Bill Browder, chief executive of Hermitage Capital Management, the fund behind the Magnitsky Act, argues: “We have leverage against Russia we didn’t have in the past because the Soviets didn’t have money in London.”
Furthermore, although the workings of Russian’s political elite are murky, Mr Putin relies upon the support of oligarchs of various factions.
“They are the Kremlin’s key constituency and, if his leadership became a liability, they would get rid of him in the way that shareholders get rid of a chief executive,” says Samuel Greene, director of King’s College London’s Russia Institute.

“The City should have a conscience and say ‘we will do our bit’, but I don’t suppose it will, unless it is ordered to,” says one lawyer.
The most punitive financial sanction would not be to block listings by Russian supermarkets such as Lenta, which squeaked on to the London market just in time last week, but to target state-controlled Russian banks. They are fragile, with weak capital and $30bn of loans to Ukraine, and they rely heavily on interbank funding.

Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 06 2014 10:08 GMT
#4368
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
likeasu
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation88 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 10:24:20
March 06 2014 10:16 GMT
#4369
May I ask one question?
About 100 opposition people were killed during chaos in Kiev. About 30 military people were killed during chaos in Kiev. WHY almost all of you blame Russia for "AGGRESSIVE OCCUPATION of Crimie" if there NO one who was shooted there for these days??? 130 dead VS 0 dead.
likeasu
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation88 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 10:21:11
March 06 2014 10:20 GMT
#4370
Are events in Kiev absolutely clear for other countries? > 130 killed and more then 1000 hurted! And Russia is agressor??? WTF with you&!&!
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 10:23:36
March 06 2014 10:22 GMT
#4371
On March 06 2014 19:16 likeasu wrote:
May I ask one question? About 100 opposition people were killed during chaos in Kiev. About 30 military people were killed during chaos in Kiev. WHY almost all of you blame Russia for "AGGRESSIVE OCCUPATION of Crimie" if there NO one who was shooted there for these days??? 130 dead VS 0 dead.

Maybe because Russia is the epitome of evil, making Satan extravagantly jealous, and USA is the holiest of holies, blessed by Christ Jesus and incapable of doing anything remotely similar or infinitely worse than what Russia is doing right now. /SARCASM

But seriously, our media is as full of shit and self-righteousness as yours, if not more.


Yes, Russia is aggressor in the sense that they sent military forces into a foreign country uninvited.
Tonttu
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland606 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 10:25:58
March 06 2014 10:25 GMT
#4372
On March 06 2014 19:20 likeasu wrote:
Are events in Kiev absolutely clear for other countries? > 130 killed and more then 1000 hurted! And Russia is agressor??? WTF with you&!&!


Well Kiev is in Ukraine and Crimea is in Ukraine. There are Russian troops in Crimea without a legitimate reason.
Troops that are blocking Ukrainian military bases.. Simple as that.
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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 06 2014 10:32 GMT
#4373
On March 06 2014 19:16 likeasu wrote:
May I ask one question?
About 100 opposition people were killed during chaos in Kiev. About 30 military people were killed during chaos in Kiev. WHY almost all of you blame Russia for "AGGRESSIVE OCCUPATION of Crimie" if there NO one who was shooted there for these days??? 130 dead VS 0 dead.


Well, no country occupied Kyiv, did they? It doesn't matter whether anyone has died or not, there's a foreign military violating one of the most important (and thus most heavily coded into international law) principles: territorial integrity. It's called aggression because territorial integrity was violated without a just cause. Furthermore, it's called an occupation because Russian troops took control of the region and refuse to leave.

In fact, with regard to the procedures to be followed in this case, the transitional Ukrainian govt. is acting in an exemplary fashion, as they are not responding to this violation, threats, ultimatums, etc. with violence but are waiting for international observers and the diplomatic process to solve the issue. So, they are generally the ones to receive the praise for the lack of casualties in Crimea.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Dlash23
Profile Joined October 2012
Russian Federation38 Posts
March 06 2014 10:36 GMT
#4374
On March 06 2014 19:25 Tonttu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:20 likeasu wrote:
Are events in Kiev absolutely clear for other countries? > 130 killed and more then 1000 hurted! And Russia is agressor??? WTF with you&!&!


Well Kiev is in Ukraine and Crimea is in Ukraine. There are Russian troops in Crimea without a legitimate reason.
Troops that are blocking Ukrainian military bases.. Simple as that.


Are you sure that your TV says only truth?
Russia HAS military base in Crimea. And all what they are doing is prevention of very possible bloody civil war by... doing nothing only staying there.

It's really funny to read geopolitical experts on TL =)
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 10:41:37
March 06 2014 10:40 GMT
#4375
On March 06 2014 19:16 likeasu wrote:
May I ask one question?
About 100 opposition people were killed during chaos in Kiev. About 30 military people were killed during chaos in Kiev. WHY almost all of you blame Russia for "AGGRESSIVE OCCUPATION of Crimie" if there NO one who was shooted there for these days??? 130 dead VS 0 dead.

It has nothing to do with number of dead people (which by the were mostly being killed by troops loyal to a ex-president who is buddy buddy with Putin), but that Russia has no business having troops on another country soil.
And if Ukraine military came to tell them to get the hell out like it is their right, how many would get killed then?
Only reason there is 0 dead is because your army is much more powerful and Ukranians don't want to die by your bullets
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4733 Posts
March 06 2014 10:41 GMT
#4376
What civil war? The one that Russia was so desparate to induce and when failed decided to move in?
Pathetic Greta hater.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 06 2014 10:44 GMT
#4377
On March 06 2014 19:36 Dlash23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 19:25 Tonttu wrote:
On March 06 2014 19:20 likeasu wrote:
Are events in Kiev absolutely clear for other countries? > 130 killed and more then 1000 hurted! And Russia is agressor??? WTF with you&!&!


Well Kiev is in Ukraine and Crimea is in Ukraine. There are Russian troops in Crimea without a legitimate reason.
Troops that are blocking Ukrainian military bases.. Simple as that.


Are you sure that your TV says only truth?
Russia HAS military base in Crimea. And all what they are doing is prevention of very possible bloody civil war by... doing nothing only staying there.

It's really funny to read geopolitical experts on TL =)

If Russian troops were only staying within their base we would not be having this conversation.

And you are talking about wrong TV. Although US TV channels are not really the most objective sources, most of the EU ones are. Russian TV is opposite of objective.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 10:46:53
March 06 2014 10:45 GMT
#4378
On March 06 2014 19:41 Silvanel wrote:
What civil war? The one that Russia was so desparate to induce and when failed decided to move in?

Russia tried to induce a civil war? Uh oh, new theories arising!

Actual Russian activities in Crimea:


User was warned for this post
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 06 2014 10:49 GMT
#4379
Judiator, stop spamming the thread with nonsense. Contribute something topical or don't post at all.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Dlash23
Profile Joined October 2012
Russian Federation38 Posts
March 06 2014 10:50 GMT
#4380
On March 06 2014 19:41 Silvanel wrote:
What civil war? The one that Russia was so desparate to induce and when failed decided to move in?


Do you know the history of that region?(it was part of Turkey, than of Russia)
What nations are living in Crimea?(russians, crimean tatars)
Of course - no. That's why I don't see the reason to argue with you.
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