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United States Foreign Policy, Post-Cold War
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Arctic Daishi
United States152 Posts
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Meta
United States6225 Posts
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
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pugowar
United States142 Posts
Also, that nations citizens would then be eligible to vote in elections, get senators and congressmen, and have electoral votes based off of population. Isreal has 8 million people and would get 13 electoral votes, 2 senators, and 11 congressmen. The UK has 63M- and would get approx 110 electoral votes, etc etc. The idea is not feasible...and you really shouldn't call your own essay brillant or universally praised. | ||
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Kaal
Djibouti2514 Posts
A brilliant six and a half page essay I wrote for my United States Foreign Policy class. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH.... ahhh man I want reddit to leave. | ||
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
Seriously, wtf did I just read? Blog material dude, not general forum. If I actually had to say something constructive? Grossly oversimplified view of foreign policy and world affairs in general. | ||
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ddrddrddrddr
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Empire
22 Posts
It's grammatically correct at least from what I can tell. | ||
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
On April 25 2013 00:29 Vaelone wrote: I think the main issue with this is the process of adding new stars into your flag. xD Well done...still chuckling at that one. | ||
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ChriS-X
Malaysia1374 Posts
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jxx
Brazil307 Posts
On April 24 2013 23:55 Arctic Daishi wrote: A brilliant six and a half page essay I wrote for my United States Foreign Policy class. Having shared and discussed my ROFL, you couldn't have started it better! | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6284 Posts
Some countries, such as the United Kingdom, will be required to replace their aristocratic monarchies with secular, republican forms of government, as well as respect freedom of speech and the right to bear arms (both of which are often infringed upon in Europe). Gold. Just gold. EDIT: Sweden is a 'big foreign country' in the poll. That made me lol | ||
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Darkened
Bulgaria105 Posts
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Feartheguru
Canada1334 Posts
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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Copymizer
Denmark2087 Posts
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
In a way I feel bad for the OP. Reading these comments must be pretty brutal for you, but if you can understand that what they have been saying is true, you can make the most of it. Generally speaking, posting a high-school essay in Team Liquid and calling it universally praised is never a good idea. I don't ever recall hearing about any high-school essay that was universally praised and brilliant to that point. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
This better be a troll. | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On April 25 2013 00:40 Zeo wrote: Gold. Just gold. EDIT: Sweden is a 'big foreign country' in the poll. That made me lol Just another example showing how informed he is. Ghana with 25mln people is small, yet Sweden with cca 10mln is big. Frankly the more I think about it he is just a troll baiting responses as I cannot believe anyone can actually believe what he is writing. | ||
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
On April 24 2013 23:55 Arctic Daishi wrote: A brilliant six and a half page essay I wrote for my United States Foreign Policy class. What an obnoxious, self-celebratory way to start a thread... | ||
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Undrass
Norway381 Posts
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Dapper_Cad
United Kingdom964 Posts
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrule Britania! BRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRitiannia Rules the Waves! | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
On April 25 2013 00:53 mcc wrote: Just another example showing how informed he is. Ghana with 25mln people is small, yet Sweden with cca 10mln is big. Frankly the more I think about it he is just a troll baiting responses as I cannot believe anyone can actually believe what he is writing. Eh, come on, he could be a high school kid. I'm leaning in that direction since no one in the real world would call this essay anything but broken, but for a high schooler? Not bad. At least it's starting to try to think big. B+ or A- material. | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
On April 25 2013 00:55 Dapper_Cad wrote: You have this exactly right with one small change. The states. should become British colonys again first. RRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrule Britania! BRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRitiannia Rules the Waves! Yeah I support this. The British Empire was far more successful than the USA, and that had a monarchy. I think most people will agree that tea is far nicer than Starbucks coffee anyway. | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
i want to know | ||
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Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
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Feartheguru
Canada1334 Posts
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
On April 25 2013 00:57 kollin wrote: Yeah I support this. The British Empire was far more successful than the USA, and that had a monarchy. I think most people will agree that tea is far nicer than Starbucks coffee anyway. Ya know I always get a good laugh at how often American's forget how truly awe-inspiring the British Empire was at its peak in terms of...well everything. American Hegemony today is like Anglo-Empire v2.0. The interface is improved, but the same spirit that drove the first just isn't there. | ||
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snam
Sweden78 Posts
On April 25 2013 00:46 Copymizer wrote: How is sweden a big foreign country, there's only 8mill citizens there lol. I'd say over 30mill is big atleast. Overall i'm not too much for it, we might share same freedom values but i don't want to join up with america as a state, no fucking way, i'd rather have a pure scandinavian union with sweden, norway and finland as we pretty much share same common social and economic values as well as culture, espcially sweden and norway. Amen, brother! Scandinavian Union, where all the girls are pretty and all the guys are wasted! | ||
micronesia
United States24678 Posts
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Copymizer
Denmark2087 Posts
On April 25 2013 01:01 snam wrote: Amen, brother! Scandinavian Union, where all the girls are pretty and all the guys are wasted! Damn right! Just think about it, with the welfare we have we could develop it even further and better with all the natural resources we posses! A strong common currency (krone, krona), scandinavian HQ in Stockholm, economic prosperity. Distance to the european union but still free trade in europe ofc. FOR NORDEN! | ||
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
To counter the rise of international institutions and to ensure the proliferation of freedom around the world, I propose we enlarge the United States. In order to go about this, we should work to build closer relations with countries that are likely to become U.S. states in the future. We’ll help these nations by providing defense and economic aid, as well as by sharing American ideas, such as freedom, gun ownership, republicanism and constitutionalism. My favorite part... fucking hilarious man. :D We have enough troubles keeping Texas in the Union, what makes you think we can subjugate the rest of the world?  | ||
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Cutlery
Norway565 Posts
We’ll help these nations by providing defense and economic aid, as well as by sharing American ideas, such as freedom, gun ownership, republicanism and constitutionalism Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, there is the rise of powerful international institutions, such as the European Union, United Nations, African Union and countless others. While initially these organizations may have been intended to help the United States dominate the world[...] wow. I'm thinking troll | ||
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Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
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Arctic Daishi
United States152 Posts
On April 25 2013 00:47 oneofthem wrote: what did your teacher say My professor hasn't graded the assignments yet. No doubt I'll receive a 95% or higher, as always. It's hilarious watching the European kiddies here rant about how much they hate America. Nobody cares about the United Kingdom or Germany, they aren't immediate, or even secondary, targets for annexation. | ||
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
On April 25 2013 01:17 Eschaton wrote: You should probably submit this to The Atlantic. or The Onion... | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
On April 25 2013 01:18 Arctic Daishi wrote: My professor hasn't graded the assignments yet. No doubt I'll receive a 95% or higher, as always. It's hilarious watching the European kiddies here rant about how much they hate America. Nobody cares about the United Kingdom or Germany, they aren't immediate, or even secondary, targets for annexation. I'm happy to become part of America. There's nothing I want more to be inundated into your huge debt and fucked up elective system. | ||
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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Dapper_Cad
United Kingdom964 Posts
On April 25 2013 00:59 Kimaker wrote: Ya know I always get a good laugh at how often American's forget how truly awe-inspiring the British Empire was at its peak in terms of...well everything. American Hegemony today is like Anglo-Empire v2.0. The interface is improved, but the same spirit that drove the first just isn't there. I have to agree, at least we had an ideal worth fighting for: BRITISHNESS. What do we have here? Freedom... Guns... Republicanismism... ... ... Sorry, nodded off there for a moment. | ||
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Dapper_Cad
United Kingdom964 Posts
On April 25 2013 01:25 kollin wrote: Hahahaha you deleted the OP. Wait... what? He was serious? What the fuck are you teaching kids over there? | ||
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Feartheguru
Canada1334 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6284 Posts
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
For argument's sake, I'll go from beginning to end and highlight the biggest issues: The Georgia part has two completely unreasonable statements: -"...we should have made it clear long before the invasion that the United States would defend Georgian national sovereignty..." This basically says that you support a military conflict (started by the US) between the US and Russia because of the invasion of Georgia. Do you want to see nukes used? Furthermore, "Georgia national sovereignity", is a bold statement, since Georgia has been a part of Russia for the largest part of the last 2 centuries. (I'm not saying that I supported the Russian invasion, but your claims are poor at best) -"...helping Georgia maintain a stable, democratic state, one that would eventually become a U.S. state." Why should Georgia (or any country for that matter) become a US state? In your whole essay, there is not a single benefit listed for such a drastic meassure. Not to mention that there are tons of economic drawbacks for a developing country to become a US state (alongside tons of other problems). China part: -There is no explanation in your essay why Taiwan should be recognized by the US other than: because China won't cut economic ties. At the very least you should have said what Taiwan/US would have gained form such a move. -"...we should work to build alliances of our own in the African continent, working with democratic and pro-American regimes." Which are the "African democratic governments"? How much do you know about "democracy" in Africa. Considering the number of allegedly rigged elections in African countries, it's fairly difficult to say which ones are actually "democratic". On a side note: The strong American bias throughout the essay is inappropriate. - "On September 11, 2001 the American people, and the world, were struck with tragedy." The world is struck with tragedy on an hourly basis. The topic is important and highly relevant for your essay, but the addition of "the world" is uncalled for. -The gun rights mentioned throughout the essay. It's probably the least important issue you could have reviewed. Israel/Afghanistan/Iraq part: - "...wholeheartedly support Israel and the Israeli settlements program." Do you even know what those "settlement programmes" are? Do you realize that a very significant part of the world views them as the wrongful displacement of people? Not to mention that you fail to explain why again. -Again: Why should Israel become a US state? -The next two sentences lack yet again explanation of why you believe those would have been the right moves. EU/UN/AU part: -"While initially these organizations may have been intended to help the United States dominate the world..." What a bold and unfounded claim! -the EU sentence needs more explanation -the UN sentence is a mockery itself: You state that the UN "violates the very civil rights it claims to protect" and there certainly are a lot of valid examples you could have taken: countries with blantant human right violations, representatives with a criminal past, inactivity on important subject, etc. However, your example is gun ownership rights in Brazil? Is this really the most pressing issue? It's offensive to people stripped of their basic human rights around the world. Furthermore, it's not like the UN wanted to force Brazil to ban guns. They merely said they supported the proposed policy. The statement "but the Brazilian people fought back and defeated them." is overly exaggerated, too. There was a referendum, which ended 63:37. The part about new US states is probably the worst in the whole essay: -"To counter the rise of international institutions and to ensure the proliferation of freedom around the world, I propose we enlarge the United States." That's three ridiculous and plain stupid statements in one sentence. *Why should international institutions be thwarted by the US? Some of those institutions can be beneficial for the US. *What is "proliferation of freedem"? Why should the US ensure this? What makes you think that anybody around the world wants "American freedem"? *You still haven't mention why the US should expand. -You mention again gun ownership. Let me tell you something. This is a non-issue basically all around the world (with large chunks being against it). When people cannot afford food on the table, struggle to find jobs, and live in complete uncertainty about their future, they don't give a fuck about gun ownership. -"It will not be a quick or easy goal, but it is a noble one and is fully necessary for the preservation of freedom in the world." This is another ridiculous claim bordering on stupidity (and maybe even crossing the border). Why is it a "noble goal" to try to make sovereign countries US states? Claiming that freedom around the world can only be achieved if many (or do you mean all) countries join the US is unfounded and arrogant. -"For too long the United States has sat on the sidelines, letting international organizations dictate the world..." By far the biggest player in world politics is the US. Your statement is factually wrong. Not to mention that even if it were so, you fail to say why the US should intervene. The paragraph about the requirements for countries becoming US states is absolutely unneccessary, since it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the task you had. Also, pretty much all your claims in there have a heavy American bias and/or are just plain wrong. -"...respect freedom of speech and the right to bear arms (both of which are often infringed upon in Europe)" Freedom of speech is infringed upon in Europe? Also, you take Europe as example, when the freedom of speech situation around the world is significantly worse. Yet again the right to beat arms, which most people don't care about. Furthermore, your claim that everybody should be allowed to carry guns is presumptuous. -Your list of countries that should be primary candidates for US statehood could have been taken straight from "the Onion". For your information, Russian influence in East Europe is still extremelly strong and there are actually a lot of people there who yearn for closer relations with Russia much rather than with the US. The icing on the cake comes at the very end: "International organizations cannot be trusted, they have proven themselves to be corrupt and opposed to freedom and democracy, but the United States is the perfect union." What an extremelly bold, unfounded, arrogant and presumptuous statement. Please do not be proud of this essay, no matter how much praise you may have received from people. You would be much better off trying to understand all of the problems with it, which I'm sure a lot of people in this thread will point out. | ||
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farvacola
United States18826 Posts
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
From Liquid`Drone: I do believe you should be entitled to ownership over the texts you post on the internet, and I'm fairly certain you are too young to fully understand how the response to your post would be. This is why I removed it. But please try to understand why the response has been so hostile, and try to take some of the genuine advice to heart - you actually got some excellent feedback. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
edit: thanks dude above ! | ||
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Deleted User 137586
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 [Edit: thanks ggrrg, now I can read it all.] It looked hilarious. I'm still curious what this essay was intended for. 3 pages suggests secondary school or first term of University.There are some tasty comments in the thread, though. On April 25 2013 01:01 micronesia wrote: This seems to be more about you OP than US foreign policy, so I'm moving the thread to blogs. That's not to say a threat about US foreign policy couldn't be made, but this thread doesn't seem to deliver. Best Freudian slip in a while (bold face). Indeed, the policy purported in the essay threatens the world with US foreign policy. On April 25 2013 00:47 BlueRoyaL wrote: lol this thread In a way I feel bad for the OP. Reading these comments must be pretty brutal for you, but if you can understand that what they have been saying is true, you can make the most of it. Generally speaking, posting a high-school essay in Team Liquid and calling it universally praised is never a good idea. I don't ever recall hearing about any high-school essay that was universally praised and brilliant to that point. I wrote an essay in my first year of high school regarding post-soviet countries in Europe where I made the typo of calling the ''buffer zone'' between NATO and Russia, the ''bugger zone''. That slip was universally praised as historically accurate. Edit: In 1996 Russia merged with it’s neighbor, Belarus, forming the Union State. You shouldn't believe everything Russia and Belarus say. The merging has not actually started, despite the various treaties signed on the topic. To this day, there is no monetary, economic, customs or political union. United Nations tried to ban guns in Brazil, but the Brazilian people fought back and defeated them. Took me a while to figure what this refers to. It's the 2005 gun control referendum which Brazilians downvoted with 64%. The United States and the Catholic Church campaigned for the referendum to pass. Come on, essay-writer. Take a similar swing at the Catholic Church. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
On April 25 2013 01:55 Boblion wrote: Well that's quite funny but still not as dumb than his fantasy thread about the US and Vietnam. Now I'm curious  Do you think you can find the link? | ||
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zeo
Serbia6284 Posts
btw thanks for saving the evidence ggrrg | ||
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
On April 25 2013 01:59 Zeo wrote: You know, he might have deleted the OP to convince everyone he isn't a troll...but secretly... btw thanks for saving the evidence ggrrg If troll, a good one.. 10/10. He had an earlier thread outlining a political platform he wanted opinions on. Running for a local seat in Missouri iirc. Had all the same imperial expansionist and gun indoctrination policies in it. | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
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farvacola
United States18826 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:06 marttorn wrote: i myself would join america in a heartbeat for the dunkin donuts which IMO are worth more than independence You've probably never had Krispy Kreme. Hoboy, you gon get Amurica all over yo face. | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:07 farvacola wrote: You've probably never had Kripsy Kreme. Hoboy, you gon get Amurica all over yo face. you bet i've had krispy kreme, but it was in london so although it was delicious (i ate 12 if i can remember) it didn't have that taste of " LIBERTY " that i get in all american products in america. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On April 25 2013 01:18 Arctic Daishi wrote: My professor hasn't graded the assignments yet. No doubt I'll receive a 95% or higher, as always. It's hilarious watching the European kiddies here rant about how much they hate America. Nobody cares about the United Kingdom or Germany, they aren't immediate, or even secondary, targets for annexation. The bold text implies that the OP is actually in University/College. You wouldn't call a teacher a Professor unless it's a post-secondary institution. So, the OP probably isn't in High School, and this paper was actually for a University/College level class. And they though it was brilliant.  | ||
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LlamaNamedOsama
United States1900 Posts
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micronesia
United States24678 Posts
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:35 micronesia wrote: I do want to point out that the way the paper was introduced in the OP meant it was going to get trashed regardless of the actual content of the paper. Anyone who says "read my amazing paper" is going to get a verbal beatdown even if it's a contender for a Pulitzer Prize. Happy birthday, btw! I'd also suggest this thread to be added to the TL "Thread Hall of Fame" thread I feel like the old thread needs to be revived and this here is a perfect candidate. | ||
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snam
Sweden78 Posts
On April 25 2013 02:35 micronesia wrote: I do want to point out that the way the paper was introduced in the OP meant it was going to get trashed regardless of the actual content of the paper. Anyone who says "read my amazing paper" is going to get a verbal beatdown even if it's a contender for a Pulitzer Prize. To be fair, even without reading that little introduction it was doomed to fail. If you look at it objectively (which is very hard to do given the subject matter) it is filled with conclusions seemingly drawn from thin air. Maybe it would be decent for high-school, it is not good enough for university which I assumed it was written for. | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1291586-How-the-United-States-Should-Combat-Foreign-Policy-Challenges-Post-Cold-War Apparently, OP posted the essay on another site, too. There, he actually engaged in a discussion and reading through it I am fairly certain that it's not a troll. | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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