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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
December 21 2012 06:41 GMT
#61
I'm such a big fan of his when cheese fails casts. There's certain ones that I watch pretty regularly since they still make me chuckle.
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Fliparoni
Profile Joined February 2012
205 Posts
December 21 2012 06:44 GMT
#62
I guess this is a situation where I differ from a lot of people. I don't watch Sc2 pro's for their personality or what they do on stream that doesn't relate to their gameplay. I watch them (mostly Koreans but some foreigners) because I am entertained by seeing people doing things in-game in SC2 that I can only dream of doing. I could care less if they don't talk or interact with viewers or if they even speak English at all.

That's why I don't get why guys like MaximusBlack are popular. If I want to be entertained in a more "casual" way, so to speak, I'll just watch TV or hang out with friends.

To each his own I suppose.
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
December 21 2012 07:12 GMT
#63
On December 21 2012 15:44 Fliparoni wrote:
I guess this is a situation where I differ from a lot of people. I don't watch Sc2 pro's for their personality or what they do on stream that doesn't relate to their gameplay. I watch them (mostly Koreans but some foreigners) because I am entertained by seeing people doing things in-game in SC2 that I can only dream of doing. I could care less if they don't talk or interact with viewers or if they even speak English at all.

That's why I don't get why guys like MaximusBlack are popular. If I want to be entertained in a more "casual" way, so to speak, I'll just watch TV or hang out with friends.

To each his own I suppose.



I fully, fully agree. Maximus isn't even a particularly good player - he's decidedly mediocre. And frankly, I don't watch starcraft to watch mediocre players.
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Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 07:38:05
December 21 2012 07:34 GMT
#64
Feels like this guy should be way better than he actually is in terms of skill for how much hes put into practice and so many ladder games over the past year. He's been coached by pros (like when he was being coached by desrow in person for a good while), etc.. Should be like a minimum of top 5 masters/low-gm at this point.
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 07:38:15
December 21 2012 07:36 GMT
#65
Very good. I don't follow Maximus very much, but when I am do, I am well entertained.

edit: Too much negativity in the thread for my taste. Not everyone can be a top player. It's also not always about the play, but the personality and the overall content quality.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
ViPer[RuSh]
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands11 Posts
December 21 2012 07:44 GMT
#66
Ah well it's nice that he is able to learn something, while Gosu get the extra exposure (1k + viewers of the stream).
I watch the stream on a regular basis mainly because of the lack of other protoss streams
If Naniwa or elfi is online i'll prefer that because of the quality of play. MB is a mediocre player who even yesterday falls back to his 4gate all-inns when he loses a few times. He is way way way way far off the level of play of the top 20 protoss players.
Other stunning thing...not watching his own replays.. -_-' didnt see a single game where he would watch what he did wrong.

Let's hope he can improve his game, otherwise he is mainly on the team for exposure.
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dblueguy
Profile Joined August 2011
3 Posts
December 21 2012 07:59 GMT
#67
On December 21 2012 16:34 Enzymatic wrote:
Feels like this guy should be way better than he actually is in terms of skill for how much hes put into practice and so many ladder games over the past year. He's been coached by pros (like when he was being coached by desrow in person for a good while), etc.. Should be like a minimum of top 5 masters/low-gm at this point.

He has been top 5 masters for about a week now.
Popsicler
Profile Joined January 2012
United States40 Posts
December 21 2012 08:12 GMT
#68
Congrats! and I hope he gets a steady coach again. It really improved his mechanics last time and he could use a bit of it again.
tutsicockroach
Profile Joined March 2011
United States57 Posts
December 21 2012 08:24 GMT
#69
MB might not be the best player, but he has one HELL of a personality. I watch his stream occasionally and there's not been a dull moment. If you watch streams to improve your gameplay, then perhaps MB's stream isn't for you, unless you're in the lower leagues. But if you just want to chill out and have a good time, his stream is the ONLY stream you can do so. There's literally no competition for what he does. Entertain.

While you have hundreds of pros/semi-pros competing for the same kind of viewer base, MB doesn't have to worry because his viewers are loyal to the CORE. He has a perfect niche which he's managed to capitalize on.

Anyway, I also wouldn't count MB out as a potential player. He'll never play in the GSL or place very highly in any major tournament, but with his work ethic (plays 6 hours a day) he definitely has what it takes to be a respectable contender.
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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
December 21 2012 09:00 GMT
#70
On December 21 2012 11:09 NeutralDepot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 11:03 AceHigh. wrote:
On December 21 2012 10:58 NeutralDepot wrote:
On December 21 2012 10:55 AceHigh. wrote:
On December 21 2012 10:53 NeutralDepot wrote:
Must be the same thing like pop music. Shit sells for gold as long as there are retarted people who hype it up.

And why not? If someone wants to buy it...?

You've got as much right to look down on those people as they have the right to choose the entertainment that suits them best.

Imagine the scene would be composed of 100% MaximusBlack. We would have a game not worth watching or playing. Supporting somebody like him is promoting this.

OK, I agree with you here. I wouldn't want the scene to be 100% MaximusBlack. But I also wouldn't want 100% IdrA, 100% WhiteRa (well, at least people would be nice to one another) or 100% MC. Professional sports requires the presence of people who stand out, either naturally or by putting on an act. And apparently, there are people to whom MaximusBlack appeals, and I'm one of them (to an extent, cause I honestly sometimes ragequit his stream), so... let them have their pick.

As I said he is free to do whatever he wants. That doesn't explain at all though why people feel the need to donate money to him instead of giving it to players who actually DO SOMETHING WORTHWHILE.
I also watched his stream in the beginning because he had pretty high ambtions. I have no idea what is even remotely entertaining about him. Aside from cheesy mediocre play he talks down everybody who beats him because everything is OP that is not protoss. I genuinely quit his stream and never come back after seeing him going for some completely retarded ballsack ceremony in which he put a teabag on his pants and held it in the camera.

People have to have REALLY LOW STANDARDS to be even remotely entertained by him. I dra for example has the bm and the rage but he also has remarkable skill. MaximusBlack has....welll...nothing.

People have different opinions on things.
Mindblowing, isn't it.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
December 21 2012 09:16 GMT
#71
On December 21 2012 15:44 Fliparoni wrote:
I guess this is a situation where I differ from a lot of people. I don't watch Sc2 pro's for their personality or what they do on stream that doesn't relate to their gameplay. I watch them (mostly Koreans but some foreigners) because I am entertained by seeing people doing things in-game in SC2 that I can only dream of doing. I could care less if they don't talk or interact with viewers or if they even speak English at all.

That's why I don't get why guys like MaximusBlack are popular. If I want to be entertained in a more "casual" way, so to speak, I'll just watch TV or hang out with friends.

To each his own I suppose.


Do you actually not understand why people watch his stream? It's not actually very complicated, and I fear you have a very shallow understanding of the world if you don't.

Surprise, other people don't take your own values into account in their decisions. The fact that you are only entertained by watching high level SC2 means nothing to anyone, ever. Get used to this fact or you will be continuously confused and annoying.
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
December 21 2012 09:18 GMT
#72
On December 21 2012 15:44 Fliparoni wrote:
I guess this is a situation where I differ from a lot of people. I don't watch Sc2 pro's for their personality or what they do on stream that doesn't relate to their gameplay. I watch them (mostly Koreans but some foreigners) because I am entertained by seeing people doing things in-game in SC2 that I can only dream of doing. I could care less if they don't talk or interact with viewers or if they even speak English at all.

That's why I don't get why guys like MaximusBlack are popular. If I want to be entertained in a more "casual" way, so to speak, I'll just watch TV or hang out with friends.

To each his own I suppose.

What are you trying to say? That Maximus viewers are easy to impress? Why did you post in this thread in the first place if you are not interested in MaximusBlack?
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
December 21 2012 10:11 GMT
#73
Grats jeff, wish you the best for 2013.

As for the haters, I really don't get it. Fine don't like the guy but this is great for the scene. Maximus gets good practice partner and an organisation behind him to do extra content, etc and on the other end we have a NA team that gets a lot of exposure and they will grow and be able to support more NA players in the future.. the way I see it this is win win
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jermmanDOTA
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada45 Posts
December 21 2012 10:20 GMT
#74
All the best Jeff! GoSuBlack is an absolutely sick handle, btw.
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AceHigh.
Profile Joined December 2012
Poland64 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 11:27:03
December 21 2012 10:58 GMT
#75
On December 21 2012 11:55 Gr1dlock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 11:13 AceHigh. wrote:
On December 21 2012 11:09 NeutralDepot wrote:
People have to have REALLY LOW STANDARDS to be even remotely entertained by him

Some people just like to watch other people make clowns of themselves. :-)

Am I not allowed to entertain myself? Is it wrong that someone makes their living doing what they love? Look I'm not here as a white knight for the Bouse, I don't need to be. At least he can stand and say that he is doing what he truly loves to do. To try and knock somebody for that just makes you look like the clown. So, please, go be a joke elsewhere. I'll be over here, playing the game I love, watching I personality that I enjoy.

You, sir, I believe, have quoted the wrong person.

If, however, you believe that what I have said means that I'm "trying to knock somebody" -- I am not. On the contrary. I see a few things in MaximusBlack that irritate me or annoy me (as in: being a clown; I simply don't feel attracted to this, never have), but let me repeat my post from a previous page of the thread: I deeply admire his conviction and determination, and for this reason I consider myself his fan. And I truly believe that his appeal to the casual gamer will pay back greatly to the community in the long run.
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xelf
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada16 Posts
December 21 2012 11:31 GMT
#76
Gratz my Local Brethren! I remember being your partner for your 2's Dragon Cleavage episode!
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
December 21 2012 11:34 GMT
#77
Gz to Black and gosu for the publicity.

To all the people refusing to understand why people watch his stream; people have different tastes and opinions, you are going to need to get over this.
Why don't you hate on people for liking fast food, or football/soccer or certain types of music as well as MB. Some people enjoy watching him, as other people enjoy watching football, or eating fast good or listening to, in my opinion terrible ^^, pop music, and you are just going to have to accept that fact.
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Wafflelisk
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada1061 Posts
December 21 2012 11:39 GMT
#78
Congratulations to Mr. Black, I checked in the stream yesterday in the middle of a very entertaining story and forgot why I didn't go to the stream as much anymore! That and the fact that he seemed to have improved skill-wise a fair bit from when I was a regular was nice to see. :D
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NeutralDepot
Profile Joined December 2012
80 Posts
December 21 2012 16:56 GMT
#79
I have to admit that I find it particularly funny how even every fan admits that MaximusBlack sucks at playing SC2 but instantly tries to cover that up by saying he has a great personality....whatever that even means in MaximusBlack's case. What I give him is that he's an extremely extroverted personality with the strong tendency to fool around and overvalue himself by talking smack on others. What the great thing about that is is beyond me though.
And even if he'd have a great personality...tons of people have that. What's that worth for Sc2? Being a great personality AND being good at Starcraft is something worthy for the scene. What's next? Justin Timberlake and Rihanna playing Starcraft because they are such great singers (lol) and personalities even though they are silver? Sounds retarded to me.

Call me elitist. I sure as hell am but that's a thousand times better than being appealed to a fouling jerk instead of somebody with skill who might not be as outgoing.
I'm basically disgusted by a scene in which the top athlets struggle to make a living while complete jerks and clowns make tons of cash. Everybody who thinks this is good for the SC2 scene is totally wrong. It might be good for the likes of MaximusBlack but sure as hell not for the reputation of SC2 and it's exposure as a serious competitive eSport. If Sc2 goes down MaximusBlack will just move to LoL and have the same retards who would even watch him take a shit watching him but the effort and energy people put into being superb at the game and excel at tournaments will be completely wasted.
For example I just watched Taeja playing protoss on his stream and he played ten times better than MaximusBlack ever could and owned a korean Top 1 Master Terran in a macro game going up to 5 bases. His mechanics are that sound that even though he's offracing he plays better than somebody (MaximusBlack) who has supposedly dedicated himself to getting into Grandmaster league and is working hard according to his unpretentious fans. I'm wondering how hard Taeja has to be working......
yet he only gets about 1500 viewers which is as much as MaximusBlack gets. Hard work really pays off I gues.........

But that is how the majority of people is and why humanity ultimately deserves the suffering it has to endure.

"The majority is never right. Never, I tell you! That’s one of these lies in society that no free and intelligent man can help rebelling against. Who are the people that make up the biggest proportion of the population—the intelligent ones or the fools? I think we can agree it’s the fools, no matter where you go in this world, it’s the fools that form the overwhelming majority." - Abraham Lincoln
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 17:12:57
December 21 2012 17:07 GMT
#80
Congrats to MaximusBlack and Apoc too! Glad Min Hyung found a home where he can travel to more foreign tournaments. :D

On December 21 2012 11:02 SupremeHD wrote:
dont forget apocalypse it is already on the liquipedia page for itsGosu


yep! They also need to remove that he was apart of team IM before he joined Quantic. He was never in IM. We picked him up when he was one of the top krn amateurs through one of Quantic's korean liasons who personally knew him. Shortly thereafter, we played him in the IPTL QIM lineup and it somehow got mixed up.
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