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andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
December 15 2012 14:56 GMT
#421
The best part of the English cast was the playing of Jackrabbit Transformer during the intermission between the two matches. It really got me hyped up for Woongjin/SKT.

Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 15 2012 14:57 GMT
#422
On December 15 2012 22:23 Holdinga wrote:
Me, too, will choose the korean stream. You guys, I think the OP should include a casual poll which asks which streams will the viewers watch - the korean , or the english with these casters



Call me crazy but people who want to watch a stream in a language they don't speak just may be in the minority there.
itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria334 Posts
December 15 2012 15:08 GMT
#423
On December 15 2012 22:35 oOOoOphidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 22:23 Holdinga wrote:
Me, too, will choose the korean stream. You guys, I think the OP should include a casual poll which asks which streams will the viewers watch - the korean , or the english with these casters

That's really not constructive at all. Watch what you want and give them something to improve on, but they're trying to do something special and you're giving the most obnoxious feedback possible.


I'm sorry to quote but I think Holdinga was just enforcing what I said....I mean what was wrong about my points?

(Z)Check is about to play his game... He was a powerhouse amateur during BW times, even well known online in korea and I remember lots of his replays and TotalBiscuit is referring to him as "this guy right here" ... I mean its just rude....and its obvious that there's no knowledge about the scene at all....


OFFICIAL #1 STORK FAN // Stork:"This past week, there's a foreign fan named Daniel who got caught on the camera a few times. He came from Vienna in Austria to come and see me, and he wanted to be mentioned in one of my interviews."
creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
December 15 2012 15:13 GMT
#424
I watched the stream last night with TB and MrB... it was pretty decent I guess. It felt like an online tournament honestly, because of the weird ghetto camera shots and the less-than-stellar microphone used by Bitter. I'm not sure if they had casted together before because sometimes it lacked continuity. Let's just say I prefer Doa + anybody, because Doa IS IN KOREA, and has true passion for the Korean scene.
Terran it up.
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
December 15 2012 15:14 GMT
#425
Complain complain complain Kespa is terrible blah blah blah.

Oh wait, Kespa gives EGTL broadcast rights.

I was around for BW, kespa isn't a saint, but they're not the devil that most make them out to be either.
ZooG
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden618 Posts
December 15 2012 15:18 GMT
#426
Awesome!
"Rain, also a name for a meteorological condition" -Artosis
Luiwtf
Profile Joined January 2011
England217 Posts
December 15 2012 15:26 GMT
#427
Meh, I'll carry on watching the Korean stream.
Holdinga
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Bulgaria300 Posts
December 15 2012 15:33 GMT
#428
On December 15 2012 23:57 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 22:23 Holdinga wrote:
Me, too, will choose the korean stream. You guys, I think the OP should include a casual poll which asks which streams will the viewers watch - the korean , or the english with these casters



Call me crazy but people who want to watch a stream in a language they don't speak just may be in the minority there.


It's obvious we'll be the minority. I was just curious exactly how much people watch the korean stream vs the english stream

My guess is something like 25% vs 75%
Twisting
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands49 Posts
December 15 2012 15:35 GMT
#429
Is http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague/ the only source for the english vods? Because i can not hear totalbiscuit and mr bitter because of the very loud game sounds!
"Play hard, Go pro"
Chrall
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada2 Posts
December 15 2012 15:38 GMT
#430
WTB Chill cast! seriously I would pay money for that.
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
December 15 2012 15:39 GMT
#431
On December 16 2012 00:08 itsdaniel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 22:35 oOOoOphidian wrote:
On December 15 2012 22:23 Holdinga wrote:
Me, too, will choose the korean stream. You guys, I think the OP should include a casual poll which asks which streams will the viewers watch - the korean , or the english with these casters

That's really not constructive at all. Watch what you want and give them something to improve on, but they're trying to do something special and you're giving the most obnoxious feedback possible.


I'm sorry to quote but I think Holdinga was just enforcing what I said....I mean what was wrong about my points?

(Z)Check is about to play his game... He was a powerhouse amateur during BW times, even well known online in korea and I remember lots of his replays and TotalBiscuit is referring to him as "this guy right here" ... I mean its just rude....and its obvious that there's no knowledge about the scene at all....




I don't think that is a fair criticism. Casters who are Broodwar savvy are in the minority (Artosis/Tasteless/Day9/Bitter/... can't really think of anyone else). Not to mention that they have one of those casters in the cast. Also, HOTS is a fresh start. Absolute monsters like Effort are not making much of a splash right now. I think you you should let the players make a name for themselves with their play, rather than with how they used to play.
We talkin about PRACTICE
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
December 15 2012 15:44 GMT
#432
On December 16 2012 00:35 Twisting wrote:
Is http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague/ the only source for the english vods? Because i can not hear totalbiscuit and mr bitter because of the very loud game sounds!

Should improve in the later games. They had some sound problems at the start of the cast I think.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
December 15 2012 15:46 GMT
#433
Mr. Bitter partially saved the cast, he at least knew some of the players from BW days so he could say a bit about them.

On December 16 2012 00:13 creamyturtle wrote:
I watched the stream last night with TB and MrB... it was pretty decent I guess. It felt like an online tournament honestly, because of the weird ghetto camera shots and the less-than-stellar microphone used by Bitter.


Yeah, I had similar feeling but there's nothing wrong with headset mic or webcams.

It sounds like TB tried to prepare from Liquipedia but Proleague deserves more. Don't get me wrong, both of them aren't bad casters, it just needs someone who is familiar with Proleague/OSL and now GSL too, their players and their history.

For years we've been listening to amateurs restreaming and casting from their bedroom but the key thing was those guys knew even the less known players by face, they remembered how well they played in previous season or just in general. They knew the stories, even outside the games, they could guess their chances, they knew the maps and special builds (not so aplicable here since this is SC2 and new maps but it will be more and more important as the seasons goes).

Casting Proleague isn't easy job because it's not just another team league, it's league with long history and high prestige, which requires close following and a lot of dedication, I hope casters will be selected according to that. There might even be some combination like pro-caster + knowledgeable community figure. In fact, that would be the best bet, at least for start of the season.
Team 8 BaBy will be the next Terran Bonjwa in HoTS | HSC V, the best tournament in 2012 | GD Studio #1 no fluff esports show
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
December 15 2012 15:52 GMT
#434
EGTL, hire Moletrap and Diggity to do this please.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
December 15 2012 15:54 GMT
#435
Can someone educate me why people here are talking if this is right and what about Doa? What about him, I don't know honestly :/ , was he the first to commentate PL?
wwww
itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria334 Posts
December 15 2012 15:58 GMT
#436
On December 16 2012 00:46 jnd wrote:
Mr. Bitter partially saved the cast, he at least knew some of the players from BW days so he could say a bit about them.

Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 00:13 creamyturtle wrote:
I watched the stream last night with TB and MrB... it was pretty decent I guess. It felt like an online tournament honestly, because of the weird ghetto camera shots and the less-than-stellar microphone used by Bitter.


Yeah, I had similar feeling but there's nothing wrong with headset mic or webcams.

It sounds like TB tried to prepare from Liquipedia but Proleague deserves more. Don't get me wrong, both of them aren't bad casters, it just needs someone who is familiar with Proleague/OSL and now GSL too, their players and their history.

For years we've been listening to amateurs restreaming and casting from their bedroom but the key thing was those guys knew even the less known players by face, they remembered how well they played in previous season or just in general. They knew the stories, even outside the games, they could guess their chances, they knew the maps and special builds (not so aplicable here since this is SC2 and new maps but it will be more and more important as the seasons goes).

Casting Proleague isn't easy job because it's not just another team league, it's league with long history and high prestige, which requires close following and a lot of dedication, I hope casters will be selected according to that. There might even be some combination like pro-caster + knowledgeable community figure. In fact, that would be the best bet, at least for start of the season.


100% agree
OFFICIAL #1 STORK FAN // Stork:"This past week, there's a foreign fan named Daniel who got caught on the camera a few times. He came from Vienna in Austria to come and see me, and he wanted to be mentioned in one of my interviews."
Twisting
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands49 Posts
December 15 2012 15:59 GMT
#437
On December 16 2012 00:44 Proseat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 00:35 Twisting wrote:
Is http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague/ the only source for the english vods? Because i can not hear totalbiscuit and mr bitter because of the very loud game sounds!

Should improve in the later games. They had some sound problems at the start of the cast I think.


Yeah i found them, but i would like to have the entire broadcast. Now it are just sepperate sets with no studio sound, it makes me bind with the games alot less!

Just feels like a video with voiceovers, no hype etc.
"Play hard, Go pro"
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 15 2012 16:02 GMT
#438
On December 16 2012 00:08 itsdaniel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 22:35 oOOoOphidian wrote:
On December 15 2012 22:23 Holdinga wrote:
Me, too, will choose the korean stream. You guys, I think the OP should include a casual poll which asks which streams will the viewers watch - the korean , or the english with these casters

That's really not constructive at all. Watch what you want and give them something to improve on, but they're trying to do something special and you're giving the most obnoxious feedback possible.


I'm sorry to quote but I think Holdinga was just enforcing what I said....I mean what was wrong about my points?

(Z)Check is about to play his game... He was a powerhouse amateur during BW times, even well known online in korea and I remember lots of his replays and TotalBiscuit is referring to him as "this guy right here" ... I mean its just rude....and its obvious that there's no knowledge about the scene at all....


There isn't a single English caster who would know who he is, and really none of them that would know anything about the amateur scene. It's absurd to expect that level of familiarity with the player that has never played a single pro game in his life prior to last week, powerhouse amateur or not.
itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria334 Posts
December 15 2012 16:05 GMT
#439
On December 16 2012 01:02 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 00:08 itsdaniel wrote:
On December 15 2012 22:35 oOOoOphidian wrote:
On December 15 2012 22:23 Holdinga wrote:
Me, too, will choose the korean stream. You guys, I think the OP should include a casual poll which asks which streams will the viewers watch - the korean , or the english with these casters

That's really not constructive at all. Watch what you want and give them something to improve on, but they're trying to do something special and you're giving the most obnoxious feedback possible.


I'm sorry to quote but I think Holdinga was just enforcing what I said....I mean what was wrong about my points?

(Z)Check is about to play his game... He was a powerhouse amateur during BW times, even well known online in korea and I remember lots of his replays and TotalBiscuit is referring to him as "this guy right here" ... I mean its just rude....and its obvious that there's no knowledge about the scene at all....


There isn't a single English caster who would know who he is, and really none of them that would know anything about the amateur scene. It's absurd to expect that level of familiarity with the player that has never played a single pro game in his life prior to last week, powerhouse amateur or not.


He already played Proleague...Do you even know what you're saying?
OFFICIAL #1 STORK FAN // Stork:"This past week, there's a foreign fan named Daniel who got caught on the camera a few times. He came from Vienna in Austria to come and see me, and he wanted to be mentioned in one of my interviews."
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 15 2012 16:14 GMT
#440
On December 15 2012 23:55 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 22:21 itsdaniel wrote:
I was shocked about the quality of the eng cast today...

.) Just because (Z)Action is a KT player, he gets instantly compared to (T)Flash ??? I think I heard it like 5 times tonight... "Yeah he may not be as good as *insertpowerhousename* but still *insertlowerrankedname* is still a good player!!"

.) Most of the time the introduction of newer players or even oldschool BW pros starts kinda like "There's just not enough info about that player in SC2" .

.) Pocari being called a "korean drink".

.) Woongjin being mispronounced all the time...

.) No stories, no real background, just TLPD stats...

I will choose the korean stream...



You're "shocked" just because of those things? Overdramatic much?


Well if you compared to Sayle he would bring up history hype and good commentary . I would be shock too if I wasn't treated to the same standards that previous commentators have been able to establish themselves before TB and Mr bitter.
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