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ScandiNAVIan
Profile Joined November 2012
Korea (South)60 Posts
November 25 2012 20:54 GMT
#41
On November 26 2012 05:50 Mrpopescu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 05:44 ScandiNAVIan wrote:
On November 26 2012 05:41 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I wish he had a better way to release an apology than through an interview, but I do think he deserves a second chance

Why exactly?

He's always been a douchebag and he's never been any good.


Don't know quite what wrong he has done to you.he is sacrificing his parents 600 euro per moth income to pay for lan trips and not receiving any salary in return.Btw at the end of the day his parents still have to pay for food/taxes/bills etc.I honestly dont think you are south korean because south koreans on tl are generaly well mannered,well spoken and dont get involved in these minor scandals.You are probably a Romanian that hates him or a racist bashing him randomly because he can not defend himself In any case shame on you.

DA is too much of a nobody for this to be called a scandal.
FnaticPink
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark324 Posts
November 25 2012 20:55 GMT
#42
On November 26 2012 05:48 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 05:17 DKR wrote:
On November 26 2012 05:16 arew wrote:
Hopefully everything turns out well for him, gl!


I don't, guy was a willing part of a stupid scheme.

He hadn't had a salary for 3 months
Put yourself in his shoes you would have done something much worse.


Thats pretty much against proper rules of argumentation. You can't just assume that he's going to do worse stuff.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
November 25 2012 20:56 GMT
#43
On November 26 2012 05:52 Rif_king wrote:
I think a lot of people have hazy memories, "at least he admitted to what he did wrong and apologized". He started out with 1 excuse / "reason" and people were buying it until Veralynn posted in the thread calling him out on his bullshit, and showing screenshots of numbers + $, at which point he switched his stance to this poor me im so sorry. </Romney> The whole desperation for money aspect is understandable, but to me I just read it as poor attempt at the sympathy vote.

Also, let's not forget this guy literally beat up some girls and took their money (referring to the girls only tournament)



That is one of the most figurative uses of the word literally I've ever seen. He literally defeated some girls at a video game. He didn't beat them up.
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Mrpopescu
Profile Joined November 2012
Romania20 Posts
November 25 2012 20:58 GMT
#44
On November 26 2012 05:54 ScandiNAVIan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 05:50 Mrpopescu wrote:
On November 26 2012 05:44 ScandiNAVIan wrote:
On November 26 2012 05:41 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I wish he had a better way to release an apology than through an interview, but I do think he deserves a second chance

Why exactly?

He's always been a douchebag and he's never been any good.


Don't know quite what wrong he has done to you.he is sacrificing his parents 600 euro per moth income to pay for lan trips and not receiving any salary in return.Btw at the end of the day his parents still have to pay for food/taxes/bills etc.I honestly dont think you are south korean because south koreans on tl are generaly well mannered,well spoken and dont get involved in these minor scandals.You are probably a Romanian that hates him or a racist bashing him randomly because he can not defend himself In any case shame on you.

DA is too much of a nobody for this to be called a scandal.

This guy has been insulting somebody for the last 3 posts without any argumentation.At least a warning maybe....
Da dirty South
ScandiNAVIan
Profile Joined November 2012
Korea (South)60 Posts
November 25 2012 21:00 GMT
#45
On November 26 2012 05:58 Mrpopescu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 05:54 ScandiNAVIan wrote:
On November 26 2012 05:50 Mrpopescu wrote:
On November 26 2012 05:44 ScandiNAVIan wrote:
On November 26 2012 05:41 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I wish he had a better way to release an apology than through an interview, but I do think he deserves a second chance

Why exactly?

He's always been a douchebag and he's never been any good.


Don't know quite what wrong he has done to you.he is sacrificing his parents 600 euro per moth income to pay for lan trips and not receiving any salary in return.Btw at the end of the day his parents still have to pay for food/taxes/bills etc.I honestly dont think you are south korean because south koreans on tl are generaly well mannered,well spoken and dont get involved in these minor scandals.You are probably a Romanian that hates him or a racist bashing him randomly because he can not defend himself In any case shame on you.

DA is too much of a nobody for this to be called a scandal.

This guy has been insulting somebody for the last 3 posts without any argumentation.At least a warning maybe....

It's no insult to call a stupid man stupid.
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
November 25 2012 21:02 GMT
#46
On November 26 2012 05:56 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 05:52 Rif_king wrote:
I think a lot of people have hazy memories, "at least he admitted to what he did wrong and apologized". He started out with 1 excuse / "reason" and people were buying it until Veralynn posted in the thread calling him out on his bullshit, and showing screenshots of numbers + $, at which point he switched his stance to this poor me im so sorry. </Romney> The whole desperation for money aspect is understandable, but to me I just read it as poor attempt at the sympathy vote.

Also, let's not forget this guy literally beat up some girls and took their money (referring to the girls only tournament)



That is one of the most figurative uses of the word literally I've ever seen. He literally defeated some girls at a video game. He didn't beat them up.


Wow...... -__- that's literally the worst use of literally I have seen on the net so far. Congrats Rif_king.
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ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
November 25 2012 21:03 GMT
#47
I don't really feel the sincerity from DA's past/present statements about the subject. I think he is just sorry he got caught.
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10348 Posts
November 25 2012 21:03 GMT
#48
On November 26 2012 05:48 NOOBALOPSE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 05:17 DKR wrote:
On November 26 2012 05:16 arew wrote:
Hopefully everything turns out well for him, gl!


I don't, guy was a willing part of a stupid scheme.

He hadn't had a salary for 3 months
Put yourself in his shoes you would have done something much worse.

Most of us would've gotten an actual job if we weren't making money.
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Rif_king
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada66 Posts
November 25 2012 21:04 GMT
#49
On November 26 2012 05:53 drooL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 05:52 Rif_king wrote:
Also, let's not forget this guy literally beat up some girls and took their money (referring to the girls only tournament)



What? He beat up girls? Source?

http://www.millenium.org/starcraft-2/accueil/actualites/sc2-tournoi-girls-arena-summer-2-un-tournoi-100-feminin-ouvert-a-toutes-71762

beat up * beat out?* Same difference
RemarK
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States452 Posts
November 25 2012 21:07 GMT
#50
Yeah, fuck this guy.
I <3 StarCraft.
Azamato
Profile Joined June 2011
Belgium22 Posts
November 25 2012 21:07 GMT
#51
When u dont have money, I can understand that you do bad things in desperation.. the guy is 26 so he can't rely on his parents or whatever. It's a bad thing but it happens a lot, atleast he apologizes.
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Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
November 25 2012 21:08 GMT
#52
On November 26 2012 06:04 Rif_king wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 05:53 drooL wrote:
On November 26 2012 05:52 Rif_king wrote:
Also, let's not forget this guy literally beat up some girls and took their money (referring to the girls only tournament)



What? He beat up girls? Source?

http://www.millenium.org/starcraft-2/accueil/actualites/sc2-tournoi-girls-arena-summer-2-un-tournoi-100-feminin-ouvert-a-toutes-71762

beat up * beat out?* Same difference


What? lol. There's a huge difference between beating up and beating out a girl.
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
November 25 2012 21:09 GMT
#53
On November 26 2012 06:04 Rif_king wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 05:53 drooL wrote:
On November 26 2012 05:52 Rif_king wrote:
Also, let's not forget this guy literally beat up some girls and took their money (referring to the girls only tournament)



What? He beat up girls? Source?

http://www.millenium.org/starcraft-2/accueil/actualites/sc2-tournoi-girls-arena-summer-2-un-tournoi-100-feminin-ouvert-a-toutes-71762

beat up * beat out?* Same difference


Not really. The post made it seems like he wacked some girl in the alley and stole her money, he only actually cheated some girl out of their money which isnt AS bad but still bad. However, I think we should all forgive this guy for what he has done, everyone make mistakes in their life. DA was desperate cause Esport doesnt pay for middle rung people and I could see why someone would do what he did, when youre desperate you do crazy things. I still think he deserves a second chance, way too many people fucked up way worst than he did and still got a second chance, he won what? Couple hundred dollars, 1 or 2 thousands at most, and vera paid it all back so there shouldn't be any harm. People say it should have him that paid, well, that is his and Vera problem to work it out with each other and we should just let them do that.
nucLeaRTV
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania822 Posts
November 25 2012 21:11 GMT
#54
Good luck for him.
"Having your own haters means you are famous"
Solarsail
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom538 Posts
November 25 2012 21:11 GMT
#55
On November 26 2012 05:52 IFC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2012 05:44 Solarsail wrote:
If their team doesn't pay them and repeated requests are ignored, why don't players go public with their problems? Instead of the negative reaction, he would have a chance of resolving the issue and getting paid, or raising awareness of himself with public sympathy so that a transfer to a team who will pay is easier.


You do realize money doesn't fall from trees, right? And no, there is no such kind of sympathy in business. That leads to failure. Anyway, it's funny and very weird how people see things, when a organization frauds the whole community by not paying and lying to their players, and when a player frauds the community himself.



Not sympathy from business; sympathy from the community causing him to have a good 'story' and hence be worth being picked up.

Compare the reaction of this thread to AL not paying their players (basically none) to if DeathAngel posted a few months ago, "I'm not being paid" (outrage).
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Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
November 25 2012 21:17 GMT
#56
On November 26 2012 06:07 Azamato wrote:
When u dont have money, I can understand that you do bad things in desperation.. the guy is 26 so he can't rely on his parents or whatever. It's a bad thing but it happens a lot, atleast he apologizes.

Congratulations, you've just legitimized robbing and stealing.

Obviously, when people break into a house or rob a bank it's because they need money and are desperate. That doesn't make it okay. The same is true for frauding money. While his situation might explain his actions it doesn't excuse it.
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
November 25 2012 21:19 GMT
#57
Coming an apologizing now when you are hoping to join a new team makes me think that you are only apologizing because you know you have to, not because you are remorseful. Of course, that is all speculation on my part and I might be wrong, but don't expect people to welcome you back because you said sorry. Actions have consequences and I'm sorry to say this, but I don't want to see DA at LANs as I think the community needs to hold players to a very high ethical standard.
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BlitchizSC2
Profile Joined August 2010
United States306 Posts
November 25 2012 21:20 GMT
#58
I don't think he should be outcast, it was a mistake and he has admitted to it. It may still be too soon to let him be vindicated but I do believe he deserves a second chance, as many others I'm sure do.
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LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
November 25 2012 21:23 GMT
#59
So basically from like 1/4 comments i've seen of people defending DA is basically sayings its okay that if someone screws u over and not paying u then it is more then acceptable to steal money from other people and at the same time by deceiving the thousands of fans and the various sponsors who paid for the events (The woman's online tournament, the showmatches) and to have little remorse for it until u got caught.
JD, need I say more? :D
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
November 25 2012 21:29 GMT
#60
I personally forgive the guy. Even good people can do shitty things, if they get put in the right situation. Live and learn, though I don't think his ban should be removed just yet, thats too soon.
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