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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-28 00:24:03
February 28 2018 00:23 GMT
#199641
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 28 2018 01:03 GMT
#199642
On February 28 2018 08:43 Mohdoo wrote:
I don't understand. I thought republicans hated nepotism in politics?

I don’t like nepotism, but I’m not going to complain too much when there doesn’t seem to be any harm done and when Trump is otherwise being highly effective as president.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 28 2018 01:05 GMT
#199643
On February 28 2018 09:23 Introvert wrote:
Trump is unique in many ways. We've always known about his trust in his family so no one was surprised when these people came into the White House. It's just part of the Trump effect, of all the crap going on this matters relatively little.

Also the fact that his family is generally seen as more competent (and more progressive, at this point) than he is surely helps.


It doesn't matter that someone with vast responsibility in the White House is a know nothing and is financially vulnerable to boot? Nothing you said diminishes the significance of someone like that being a primary decision maker.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 28 2018 01:08 GMT
#199644
On February 28 2018 10:03 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 08:43 Mohdoo wrote:
I don't understand. I thought republicans hated nepotism in politics?

I don’t like nepotism, but I’m not going to complain too much when there doesn’t seem to be any harm done and when Trump is otherwise being highly effective as president.


Gorsuch and the tax cuts are standard Republican fare, whereas staff indirection and lack of coordination with Congress are standard Trump fare.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46686 Posts
February 28 2018 01:12 GMT
#199645
On February 28 2018 09:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/AP/status/968631597963628549


For all teachers??? ...What's the catch?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24504 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-28 01:15:43
February 28 2018 01:12 GMT
#199646
My favorite quote on Nepotism comes from Steve "fuckboy" Forbes (technically his dad):

"There is nothing wrong with nepotism as long as you keep it within the family."

On February 28 2018 10:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 09:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/AP/status/968631597963628549


For all teachers??? ...What's the catch?


That you and your friends don't get any wise ideas and try the same thing
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-28 01:17:18
February 28 2018 01:14 GMT
#199647
On February 28 2018 10:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 09:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/AP/status/968631597963628549


For all teachers??? ...What's the catch?

They have to publicly thank Trump for doing a great job helping them out.

+ Show Spoiler +
Without checking my guess is that they pilfered some state cash/asset reserves to do it.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 28 2018 01:24 GMT
#199648
On February 28 2018 10:03 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 08:43 Mohdoo wrote:
I don't understand. I thought republicans hated nepotism in politics?

I don’t like nepotism, but I’m not going to complain too much when there doesn’t seem to be any harm done and when Trump is otherwise being highly effective as president.

Rules only apply to democrats. Because excessive domestic debt will get any normal person’s clearance pulled. Debt to foreign entities is worse. But no harm done yet. That we know of.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 28 2018 01:41 GMT
#199649
Another local level flip.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 28 2018 01:51 GMT
#199650
Belknap county is kinda impressive, tbh. Well any party of New Hampshire that doesn’t boarder MA is impressive.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24504 Posts
February 28 2018 02:01 GMT
#199651
On February 28 2018 10:41 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Another local level flip.

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/968651286550728705


This whole Republicans dying shortly after winning their seat thing seems to be going pretty good for Democrats so far.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46686 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-28 02:03:57
February 28 2018 02:03 GMT
#199652
On February 28 2018 10:12 GreenHorizons wrote:
My favorite quote on Nepotism comes from Steve "fuckboy" Forbes (technically his dad):

"There is nothing wrong with nepotism as long as you keep it within the family."

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 10:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On February 28 2018 09:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/AP/status/968631597963628549


For all teachers??? ...What's the catch?


That you and your friends don't get any wise ideas and try the same thing


I think if Chris Christie's Lieutenant Governor, Kim Guadagno, had been elected as governor instead of Phil Murphy, and tried the same pay freeze + teachers paying for their own health benefits crap that Christie put into effect, New Jersey teachers would have protested big time.

On February 28 2018 10:14 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 10:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On February 28 2018 09:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/AP/status/968631597963628549


For all teachers??? ...What's the catch?

They have to publicly thank Trump for doing a great job helping them out.

+ Show Spoiler +
Without checking my guess is that they pilfered some state cash/asset reserves to do it.


Ewww. Not sure if worth it.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 28 2018 03:10 GMT
#199653
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4945 Posts
February 28 2018 03:35 GMT
#199654
On February 28 2018 12:10 Doodsmack wrote:
https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/968509170352828417


But Obama! But DNC! But.......
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 28 2018 03:39 GMT
#199655
The terrifying about that is that other nations it’s open season on our elections. That we are to weak with Trump in charge to respond.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
February 28 2018 04:29 GMT
#199656
On February 28 2018 10:03 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 08:43 Mohdoo wrote:
I don't understand. I thought republicans hated nepotism in politics?

I don’t like nepotism, but I’m not going to complain too much when there doesn’t seem to be any harm done and when Trump is otherwise being highly effective as president.


So you would've been fine with chelsea Clinton or Obama kids getting top clearance in the white house? Also lmfao at trump highly effective, I guess if the only thing you want is the decay of the rule of law and the weakening of America then hrs quite effective lol
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 28 2018 04:42 GMT
#199657
On February 28 2018 13:29 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 10:03 xDaunt wrote:
On February 28 2018 08:43 Mohdoo wrote:
I don't understand. I thought republicans hated nepotism in politics?

I don’t like nepotism, but I’m not going to complain too much when there doesn’t seem to be any harm done and when Trump is otherwise being highly effective as president.


So you would've been fine with chelsea Clinton or Obama kids getting top clearance in the white house? Also lmfao at trump highly effective, I guess if the only thing you want is the decay of the rule of law and the weakening of America then hrs quite effective lol

That's a stupid question to ask. Chelsea was 20 when her father left office and Obama's kids aren't even adults. I understand what you're getting at, and in no way do I think Trump's kids are qualified, but come with something stronger than that.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
February 28 2018 04:46 GMT
#199658
On February 28 2018 13:42 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2018 13:29 hunts wrote:
On February 28 2018 10:03 xDaunt wrote:
On February 28 2018 08:43 Mohdoo wrote:
I don't understand. I thought republicans hated nepotism in politics?

I don’t like nepotism, but I’m not going to complain too much when there doesn’t seem to be any harm done and when Trump is otherwise being highly effective as president.


So you would've been fine with chelsea Clinton or Obama kids getting top clearance in the white house? Also lmfao at trump highly effective, I guess if the only thing you want is the decay of the rule of law and the weakening of America then hrs quite effective lol

That's a stupid question to ask. Chelsea was 20 when her father left office and Obama's kids aren't even adults. I understand what you're getting at, and in no way do I think Trump's kids are qualified, but come with something stronger than that.


I meant more along the lines had Hillary won, but I would trust 20 year old Chelsea over ivanka or any of trumps children. I would trust Obama's children over any of trumps. I would probably trust putin's own children if he has any over trumps.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
February 28 2018 04:54 GMT
#199659
Who spun the Nunes failMemo better? Page? Or team Con on this board? Who would expect a district court judge to read the footnotes, amirite? Page's 'but it's a footnote' argument sounds better than the 'but ~paid for by the political opposition to DJT~ didn't specify DEMONCRAPS and the judge was too stupid to infer it".


“In the FISA application, you’ll say it was just a footnote, but it was informed to the court where it came from,” Cuomo said. “The president got it wrong I think where he said the FBI didn’t disclose who the clients were. I think he was misreading recent information that Christopher Steele may not have been told who the clients were… but the court knew where it was coming from, it wasn’t the only part of the application, and four different judges approved or extended it — what’s wrong with that set of criteria in terms of surveilling somebody?”

Page responded by arguing that FISA court judges are too busy to read footnotes.

“Chris, you know, district court judges, who sit on the FISA court… if you look at how busy their schedules are, they are just jammed with information,” he said. “So to have them be stuck with trying to figure out something that’s hidden in a footnote… I mean, it’s like reading hieroglyphics. ”

https://thinkprogress.org/carter-page-cnn-schiff-memo-font-size-trump-822a67e5273f/
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-28 05:10:14
February 28 2018 05:10 GMT
#199660
On February 28 2018 10:41 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Another local level flip.

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/968651286550728705

A significant number of people were totally willing to roll the dice because they don't understand the value of government. Now they've learned.
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