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On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:32 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:21 Wulfey_LA wrote:
No. I am explaining why you (GH) spouting their lines is bad. Their propaganda leads to terrible things. See, the Ukranian War. You would first have to show me spouting their lines. I agree propaganda leads to terrible things, like wars. Especially when the "anti-war" liberals are completely blind to the propaganda they are repeating and spreading. Every other post you make is BUT THE WEST IS JUST AS BAD. That has been the line for decades out of Russia, event back to the Soviet days. I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. On February 27 2018 11:35 hunts wrote:From the article GH linked that never mentiones bernie according to GH. The Russians in the indictment acted as an organization, and employees who ran the accounts were directed to create “political intensity through supporting radical groups” and to criticize Hillary Clinton, but not Donald J. Trump or Bernie Sanders. I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours. It doesn't even make a claim about supporting Bernie but merely only critiquing Hillary and promoting pro and anti Trump rallies. Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves.
So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real?
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Just to be clear, Whataboutism is not unique to Soviet Russia. It is just something they became for notorious for using it. But it is a great way to undercut any discussion.
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On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:32 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:21 Wulfey_LA wrote:
No. I am explaining why you (GH) spouting their lines is bad. Their propaganda leads to terrible things. See, the Ukranian War. You would first have to show me spouting their lines. I agree propaganda leads to terrible things, like wars. Especially when the "anti-war" liberals are completely blind to the propaganda they are repeating and spreading. Every other post you make is BUT THE WEST IS JUST AS BAD. That has been the line for decades out of Russia, event back to the Soviet days. I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. On February 27 2018 11:35 hunts wrote:From the article GH linked that never mentiones bernie according to GH. The Russians in the indictment acted as an organization, and employees who ran the accounts were directed to create “political intensity through supporting radical groups” and to criticize Hillary Clinton, but not Donald J. Trump or Bernie Sanders. I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours. It doesn't even make a claim about supporting Bernie but merely only critiquing Hillary and promoting pro and anti Trump rallies. Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real?
"Every other democrat" I haven't seen a word about the other Democratic primary candidates. So besides your statement simply being inaccurate, yeah, I'm for real. You for real about refusing to read data in the propaganda you assume is true? Yeah, I know you are. So don't pretend you have an ounce of credibility about this.
On February 27 2018 11:48 Plansix wrote:
Just to be clear, Whataboutism is not unique to Soviet Russia. It is just something they became for notorious for using it. But it is a great way to undercut any discussion.
Remember when you outright lied to yourself/us/both about why you were citing US propaganda about Russia's influence? If you came to grips with that I might take you remotely serious with a comment like this.
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On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:32 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:21 Wulfey_LA wrote:
No. I am explaining why you (GH) spouting their lines is bad. Their propaganda leads to terrible things. See, the Ukranian War. You would first have to show me spouting their lines. I agree propaganda leads to terrible things, like wars. Especially when the "anti-war" liberals are completely blind to the propaganda they are repeating and spreading. Every other post you make is BUT THE WEST IS JUST AS BAD. That has been the line for decades out of Russia, event back to the Soviet days. I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. On February 27 2018 11:35 hunts wrote:From the article GH linked that never mentiones bernie according to GH. The Russians in the indictment acted as an organization, and employees who ran the accounts were directed to create “political intensity through supporting radical groups” and to criticize Hillary Clinton, but not Donald J. Trump or Bernie Sanders. I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours. It doesn't even make a claim about supporting Bernie but merely only critiquing Hillary and promoting pro and anti Trump rallies. Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real?
Hey fellow liberal comrade, did you hear how many MUSLIMS love Hillary? Just look at all these frightening Muslim women, surely about to breed even! Just saying this as an earnest Hillary supporter. This is 100% legitimate Hillary supporting propaganda.
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On February 27 2018 11:49 Wulfey_LA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:32 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:21 Wulfey_LA wrote:
No. I am explaining why you (GH) spouting their lines is bad. Their propaganda leads to terrible things. See, the Ukranian War. You would first have to show me spouting their lines. I agree propaganda leads to terrible things, like wars. Especially when the "anti-war" liberals are completely blind to the propaganda they are repeating and spreading. Every other post you make is BUT THE WEST IS JUST AS BAD. That has been the line for decades out of Russia, event back to the Soviet days. I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. On February 27 2018 11:35 hunts wrote:From the article GH linked that never mentiones bernie according to GH. The Russians in the indictment acted as an organization, and employees who ran the accounts were directed to create “political intensity through supporting radical groups” and to criticize Hillary Clinton, but not Donald J. Trump or Bernie Sanders. I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours. It doesn't even make a claim about supporting Bernie but merely only critiquing Hillary and promoting pro and anti Trump rallies. Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real? Hey fellow liberal comrade, did you hear how many MUSLIMS love Hillary? Just look at all these frightening Muslim women, surely about to breed even! Just saying this as an earnest Hillary supporter. This is 100% legitimate Hillary supporting propaganda.
Well, it's clear you guys have nothing if this is where you're going.
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On February 27 2018 11:49 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:32 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:21 Wulfey_LA wrote:
No. I am explaining why you (GH) spouting their lines is bad. Their propaganda leads to terrible things. See, the Ukranian War. You would first have to show me spouting their lines. I agree propaganda leads to terrible things, like wars. Especially when the "anti-war" liberals are completely blind to the propaganda they are repeating and spreading. Every other post you make is BUT THE WEST IS JUST AS BAD. That has been the line for decades out of Russia, event back to the Soviet days. I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. On February 27 2018 11:35 hunts wrote:From the article GH linked that never mentiones bernie according to GH. The Russians in the indictment acted as an organization, and employees who ran the accounts were directed to create “political intensity through supporting radical groups” and to criticize Hillary Clinton, but not Donald J. Trump or Bernie Sanders. I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours. It doesn't even make a claim about supporting Bernie but merely only critiquing Hillary and promoting pro and anti Trump rallies. Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real? "Every other democrat" I haven't seen a word about the other Democratic primary candidates. So besides your statement simply being inaccurate, yeah, I'm for real. You for real about refusing to read data in the propaganda you assume is true? Yeah, I know you are. So don't pretend you have an ounce of credibility about this.
My bad, was a different article that talked about the same people then, where they had a direct quote intercepted from them that basically said to criticize everyone but bernie and trump. I could probably find that, but then you would just handwave it off by calling it propaganda
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On February 27 2018 11:52 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 11:49 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:32 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:21 Wulfey_LA wrote:
No. I am explaining why you (GH) spouting their lines is bad. Their propaganda leads to terrible things. See, the Ukranian War. You would first have to show me spouting their lines. I agree propaganda leads to terrible things, like wars. Especially when the "anti-war" liberals are completely blind to the propaganda they are repeating and spreading. Every other post you make is BUT THE WEST IS JUST AS BAD. That has been the line for decades out of Russia, event back to the Soviet days. I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. On February 27 2018 11:35 hunts wrote:From the article GH linked that never mentiones bernie according to GH. The Russians in the indictment acted as an organization, and employees who ran the accounts were directed to create “political intensity through supporting radical groups” and to criticize Hillary Clinton, but not Donald J. Trump or Bernie Sanders. I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours. It doesn't even make a claim about supporting Bernie but merely only critiquing Hillary and promoting pro and anti Trump rallies. Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real? Hey fellow liberal comrade, did you hear how many MUSLIMS love Hillary? Just look at all these frightening Muslim women, surely about to breed even! Just saying this as an earnest Hillary supporter. This is 100% legitimate Hillary supporting propaganda. Well, it's clear you guys have nothing if this is where you're going.
As the resident TuQuoQue fairy, you bravely stand for nothing while offering no positive arguments for anything. Gun control, immigration, Trump, taxes, whatever. Your only position is that liberals are hypocrites for not living up to their beliefs on something. One day, when you start taking positions, I will actually discuss those positions. Until then, I am just going to rag on you for being a tuquoque fairy.
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On February 27 2018 11:57 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 11:49 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:32 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:21 Wulfey_LA wrote:
No. I am explaining why you (GH) spouting their lines is bad. Their propaganda leads to terrible things. See, the Ukranian War. You would first have to show me spouting their lines. I agree propaganda leads to terrible things, like wars. Especially when the "anti-war" liberals are completely blind to the propaganda they are repeating and spreading. Every other post you make is BUT THE WEST IS JUST AS BAD. That has been the line for decades out of Russia, event back to the Soviet days. I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. On February 27 2018 11:35 hunts wrote:From the article GH linked that never mentiones bernie according to GH. The Russians in the indictment acted as an organization, and employees who ran the accounts were directed to create “political intensity through supporting radical groups” and to criticize Hillary Clinton, but not Donald J. Trump or Bernie Sanders. I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours. It doesn't even make a claim about supporting Bernie but merely only critiquing Hillary and promoting pro and anti Trump rallies. Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real? "Every other democrat" I haven't seen a word about the other Democratic primary candidates. So besides your statement simply being inaccurate, yeah, I'm for real. You for real about refusing to read data in the propaganda you assume is true? Yeah, I know you are. So don't pretend you have an ounce of credibility about this. My bad, was a different article that talked about the same people then, where they had a direct quote intercepted from them that basically said to criticize everyone but bernie and trump. I could probably find that, but then you would just handwave it off by calling it propaganda
You best find it right away, or being one of those typical liberals that lie to themselves. He will accuse you of lying for weeks if you don't provide the article and that you remember every fact perfectly.
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On February 27 2018 11:57 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 11:49 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:32 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:21 Wulfey_LA wrote:
No. I am explaining why you (GH) spouting their lines is bad. Their propaganda leads to terrible things. See, the Ukranian War. You would first have to show me spouting their lines. I agree propaganda leads to terrible things, like wars. Especially when the "anti-war" liberals are completely blind to the propaganda they are repeating and spreading. Every other post you make is BUT THE WEST IS JUST AS BAD. That has been the line for decades out of Russia, event back to the Soviet days. I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. On February 27 2018 11:35 hunts wrote:From the article GH linked that never mentiones bernie according to GH. The Russians in the indictment acted as an organization, and employees who ran the accounts were directed to create “political intensity through supporting radical groups” and to criticize Hillary Clinton, but not Donald J. Trump or Bernie Sanders. I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours. It doesn't even make a claim about supporting Bernie but merely only critiquing Hillary and promoting pro and anti Trump rallies. Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real? "Every other democrat" I haven't seen a word about the other Democratic primary candidates. So besides your statement simply being inaccurate, yeah, I'm for real. You for real about refusing to read data in the propaganda you assume is true? Yeah, I know you are. So don't pretend you have an ounce of credibility about this. My bad, was a different article that talked about the same people then, where they had a direct quote intercepted from them that basically said to criticize everyone but bernie and trump. I could probably find that, but then you would just handwave it off by calling it propaganda
You're on a long streak of "my bads".
A quote saying to do it (from lord knows where to who at the moment) doesn't = doing it right? Like a quote from me telling you to read the data you reject contains what I say it does, doesn't mean you did it right?
But you could just take the statement back since anyone with eyes knows there wasn't some Russian propaganda campaign to undermine every other Democratic primary candidate besides Bernie. Not that the Russians could have held a candle to the Brock trolls and Hillary zealots anyway.
On February 27 2018 11:59 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 11:57 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:49 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:32 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:21 Wulfey_LA wrote:
No. I am explaining why you (GH) spouting their lines is bad. Their propaganda leads to terrible things. See, the Ukranian War. You would first have to show me spouting their lines. I agree propaganda leads to terrible things, like wars. Especially when the "anti-war" liberals are completely blind to the propaganda they are repeating and spreading. Every other post you make is BUT THE WEST IS JUST AS BAD. That has been the line for decades out of Russia, event back to the Soviet days. I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. On February 27 2018 11:35 hunts wrote:From the article GH linked that never mentiones bernie according to GH. The Russians in the indictment acted as an organization, and employees who ran the accounts were directed to create “political intensity through supporting radical groups” and to criticize Hillary Clinton, but not Donald J. Trump or Bernie Sanders. I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours. It doesn't even make a claim about supporting Bernie but merely only critiquing Hillary and promoting pro and anti Trump rallies. Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real? "Every other democrat" I haven't seen a word about the other Democratic primary candidates. So besides your statement simply being inaccurate, yeah, I'm for real. You for real about refusing to read data in the propaganda you assume is true? Yeah, I know you are. So don't pretend you have an ounce of credibility about this. My bad, was a different article that talked about the same people then, where they had a direct quote intercepted from them that basically said to criticize everyone but bernie and trump. I could probably find that, but then you would just handwave it off by calling it propaganda You best find it right away, or being one of those typical liberals that lie to themselves. He will accuse you of lying for weeks if you don't provide the article and that you remember every fact perfectly.
Do you honestly not know why I'm calling you out for lying to all of us (apparently yourself included)?
On February 27 2018 11:59 Wulfey_LA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 11:52 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:49 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:32 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:21 Wulfey_LA wrote:
No. I am explaining why you (GH) spouting their lines is bad. Their propaganda leads to terrible things. See, the Ukranian War. You would first have to show me spouting their lines. I agree propaganda leads to terrible things, like wars. Especially when the "anti-war" liberals are completely blind to the propaganda they are repeating and spreading. Every other post you make is BUT THE WEST IS JUST AS BAD. That has been the line for decades out of Russia, event back to the Soviet days. I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. On February 27 2018 11:35 hunts wrote:From the article GH linked that never mentiones bernie according to GH. The Russians in the indictment acted as an organization, and employees who ran the accounts were directed to create “political intensity through supporting radical groups” and to criticize Hillary Clinton, but not Donald J. Trump or Bernie Sanders. I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours. It doesn't even make a claim about supporting Bernie but merely only critiquing Hillary and promoting pro and anti Trump rallies. Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real? Hey fellow liberal comrade, did you hear how many MUSLIMS love Hillary? Just look at all these frightening Muslim women, surely about to breed even! Just saying this as an earnest Hillary supporter. This is 100% legitimate Hillary supporting propaganda. Well, it's clear you guys have nothing if this is where you're going. As the resident TuQuoQue fairy, you bravely stand for nothing while offering no positive arguments for anything. Gun control, immigration, Trump, taxes, whatever. Your only position is that liberals are hypocrites for not living up to their beliefs on something. One day, when you start taking positions, I will actually discuss those positions. Until then, I am just going to rag on you for being a tuquoque fairy.
We're here because I realized just how tight of a grip US propaganda had on many people and that they couldn't even hear my positive solutions until I at least got them to start questioning more of the things they accept as absolute truth. This Russia propaganda thing happened to provide a remarkably clear example of liberals not just falling for propaganda, but their stubborn refusal to confront that reality or it's wider implications.
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On February 27 2018 11:59 Wulfey_LA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 11:52 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:49 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:32 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:21 Wulfey_LA wrote:
No. I am explaining why you (GH) spouting their lines is bad. Their propaganda leads to terrible things. See, the Ukranian War. You would first have to show me spouting their lines. I agree propaganda leads to terrible things, like wars. Especially when the "anti-war" liberals are completely blind to the propaganda they are repeating and spreading. Every other post you make is BUT THE WEST IS JUST AS BAD. That has been the line for decades out of Russia, event back to the Soviet days. I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. On February 27 2018 11:35 hunts wrote:From the article GH linked that never mentiones bernie according to GH. The Russians in the indictment acted as an organization, and employees who ran the accounts were directed to create “political intensity through supporting radical groups” and to criticize Hillary Clinton, but not Donald J. Trump or Bernie Sanders. I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours. It doesn't even make a claim about supporting Bernie but merely only critiquing Hillary and promoting pro and anti Trump rallies. Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real? Hey fellow liberal comrade, did you hear how many MUSLIMS love Hillary? Just look at all these frightening Muslim women, surely about to breed even! Just saying this as an earnest Hillary supporter. This is 100% legitimate Hillary supporting propaganda. Well, it's clear you guys have nothing if this is where you're going. As the resident TuQuoQue fairy, you bravely stand for nothing while offering no positive arguments for anything. Gun control, immigration, Trump, taxes, whatever. Your only position is that liberals are hypocrites for not living up to their beliefs on something. One day, when you start taking positions, I will actually discuss those positions. Until then, I am just going to rag on you for being a tuquoque fairy.
It's easy to pat yourself on the back as you walk away from a discussion when you never actually say anything. Just look at his silly stuff with plansix. Every reply he brings up something p6 already apologized for. GH doing that repeatedly shows you all you need to know about his discussions.
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From Bloomberg, which as far as I know and after some googling, is quite trustworthy and reputable.
In an indictment announced Friday in Washington, Mueller describes a years-long, multimillion-dollar conspiracy by hundreds of Russians aimed at criticizing Hillary Clinton and supporting Senator Bernie Sanders and Trump. Mueller charged 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities and accused them of defrauding the U.S. government by interfering with the political process.
In a Feb. 10, 2016, planning memo, the Russians were instructed to “use any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest (except Sanders and Trump -- we support them).”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-16/u-s-charges-13-russians-3-companies-for-hacking-election
I linked this before, among many other articles to show the bernie favoritism and propoganda, which GH countered with "you can't prove they brainwashed ME!" Followed by "I'm not brainwashed by propaganda, you're brainwashed by propaganda!"
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On February 27 2018 12:03 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 11:59 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:52 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:49 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:32 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:24 GreenHorizons wrote:
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You would first have to show me spouting their lines. I agree propaganda leads to terrible things, like wars. Especially when the "anti-war" liberals are completely blind to the propaganda they are repeating and spreading. Every other post you make is BUT THE WEST IS JUST AS BAD. That has been the line for decades out of Russia, event back to the Soviet days. I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. On February 27 2018 11:35 hunts wrote:From the article GH linked that never mentiones bernie according to GH. The Russians in the indictment acted as an organization, and employees who ran the accounts were directed to create “political intensity through supporting radical groups” and to criticize Hillary Clinton, but not Donald J. Trump or Bernie Sanders. I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours. It doesn't even make a claim about supporting Bernie but merely only critiquing Hillary and promoting pro and anti Trump rallies. Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real? Hey fellow liberal comrade, did you hear how many MUSLIMS love Hillary? Just look at all these frightening Muslim women, surely about to breed even! Just saying this as an earnest Hillary supporter. This is 100% legitimate Hillary supporting propaganda. Well, it's clear you guys have nothing if this is where you're going. As the resident TuQuoQue fairy, you bravely stand for nothing while offering no positive arguments for anything. Gun control, immigration, Trump, taxes, whatever. Your only position is that liberals are hypocrites for not living up to their beliefs on something. One day, when you start taking positions, I will actually discuss those positions. Until then, I am just going to rag on you for being a tuquoque fairy. It's easy to pat yourself on the back as you walk away from a discussion when you never actually say anything. Just look at his silly stuff with plansix. Every reply he brings up something p6 already apologized for. GH doing that repeatedly shows you all you need to know about his discussions.
P6 keeps coming up because he chooses to opine on an issue for which he lied to all of us, not half apologized as he's been credited for. On February 27 2018 12:04 hunts wrote:From Bloomberg, which as far as I know and after some googling, is quite trustworthy and reputable. Show nested quote +In an indictment announced Friday in Washington, Mueller describes a years-long, multimillion-dollar conspiracy by hundreds of Russians aimed at criticizing Hillary Clinton and supporting Senator Bernie Sanders and Trump. Mueller charged 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities and accused them of defrauding the U.S. government by interfering with the political process.
In a Feb. 10, 2016, planning memo, the Russians were instructed to “use any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest (except Sanders and Trump -- we support them).” https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-16/u-s-charges-13-russians-3-companies-for-hacking-electionI linked this before, among many other arguments to show the bernie favoritism and propoganda, which GH countered with "you can't prove they brainwashed ME!" Followed by "I'm not brainwashed by propaganda, you're brainwashed by propaganda!"
That was after the primary voting had already started, "the rest" in that case would be other Republicans... Do I even have to look at who that was between?
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On February 27 2018 12:07 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 12:03 Mohdoo wrote:On February 27 2018 11:59 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:52 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:49 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:32 Wulfey_LA wrote:
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Every other post you make is BUT THE WEST IS JUST AS BAD. That has been the line for decades out of Russia, event back to the Soviet days. I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. On February 27 2018 11:35 hunts wrote:
From the article GH linked that never mentiones bernie according to GH.
[quote] I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours. It doesn't even make a claim about supporting Bernie but merely only critiquing Hillary and promoting pro and anti Trump rallies. Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real? Hey fellow liberal comrade, did you hear how many MUSLIMS love Hillary? Just look at all these frightening Muslim women, surely about to breed even! Just saying this as an earnest Hillary supporter. This is 100% legitimate Hillary supporting propaganda. Well, it's clear you guys have nothing if this is where you're going. As the resident TuQuoQue fairy, you bravely stand for nothing while offering no positive arguments for anything. Gun control, immigration, Trump, taxes, whatever. Your only position is that liberals are hypocrites for not living up to their beliefs on something. One day, when you start taking positions, I will actually discuss those positions. Until then, I am just going to rag on you for being a tuquoque fairy. It's easy to pat yourself on the back as you walk away from a discussion when you never actually say anything. Just look at his silly stuff with plansix. Every reply he brings up something p6 already apologized for. GH doing that repeatedly shows you all you need to know about his discussions. P6 keeps coming up because he chooses to opine on an issue for which he lied to all of us, not half apologized as he's been credited for.
If you need more than what p6 did as an apology, I'd hate to be your boyfriend, lol.
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On February 27 2018 12:09 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 12:07 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 12:03 Mohdoo wrote:On February 27 2018 11:59 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:52 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:49 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:
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I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. [quote]
I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours.
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Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real? Hey fellow liberal comrade, did you hear how many MUSLIMS love Hillary? Just look at all these frightening Muslim women, surely about to breed even! Just saying this as an earnest Hillary supporter. This is 100% legitimate Hillary supporting propaganda. Well, it's clear you guys have nothing if this is where you're going. As the resident TuQuoQue fairy, you bravely stand for nothing while offering no positive arguments for anything. Gun control, immigration, Trump, taxes, whatever. Your only position is that liberals are hypocrites for not living up to their beliefs on something. One day, when you start taking positions, I will actually discuss those positions. Until then, I am just going to rag on you for being a tuquoque fairy. It's easy to pat yourself on the back as you walk away from a discussion when you never actually say anything. Just look at his silly stuff with plansix. Every reply he brings up something p6 already apologized for. GH doing that repeatedly shows you all you need to know about his discussions. P6 keeps coming up because he chooses to opine on an issue for which he lied to all of us, not half apologized as he's been credited for. If you need more than what p6 did as an apology, I'd hate to be your boyfriend, lol.
He lied, and I think he knows it, but is pretending like he doesn't. I'd prefer he just admit to it so we can move on.
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On February 27 2018 12:07 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 12:03 Mohdoo wrote:On February 27 2018 11:59 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:52 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:49 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:32 Wulfey_LA wrote:
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Every other post you make is BUT THE WEST IS JUST AS BAD. That has been the line for decades out of Russia, event back to the Soviet days. I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. On February 27 2018 11:35 hunts wrote:
From the article GH linked that never mentiones bernie according to GH.
[quote] I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours. It doesn't even make a claim about supporting Bernie but merely only critiquing Hillary and promoting pro and anti Trump rallies. Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real? Hey fellow liberal comrade, did you hear how many MUSLIMS love Hillary? Just look at all these frightening Muslim women, surely about to breed even! Just saying this as an earnest Hillary supporter. This is 100% legitimate Hillary supporting propaganda. Well, it's clear you guys have nothing if this is where you're going. As the resident TuQuoQue fairy, you bravely stand for nothing while offering no positive arguments for anything. Gun control, immigration, Trump, taxes, whatever. Your only position is that liberals are hypocrites for not living up to their beliefs on something. One day, when you start taking positions, I will actually discuss those positions. Until then, I am just going to rag on you for being a tuquoque fairy. It's easy to pat yourself on the back as you walk away from a discussion when you never actually say anything. Just look at his silly stuff with plansix. Every reply he brings up something p6 already apologized for. GH doing that repeatedly shows you all you need to know about his discussions. P6 keeps coming up because he chooses to opine on an issue for which he lied to all of us, not half apologized as he's been credited for.
And you still continue to treat everyone with haughty disdain for have the gall to not lick your boot and beg forgiveness when Clinton lost. But we manage to only bring it up when you become especially insufferable. Which happens to be when the Russia topic comes up and you come in to tell us how stupid we all are, while you are SO much smarter and didn't get sucked in at all.
On February 27 2018 12:11 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 12:09 Mohdoo wrote:On February 27 2018 12:07 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 12:03 Mohdoo wrote:On February 27 2018 11:59 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:52 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:49 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:
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So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real? Hey fellow liberal comrade, did you hear how many MUSLIMS love Hillary? Just look at all these frightening Muslim women, surely about to breed even! Just saying this as an earnest Hillary supporter. This is 100% legitimate Hillary supporting propaganda. Well, it's clear you guys have nothing if this is where you're going. As the resident TuQuoQue fairy, you bravely stand for nothing while offering no positive arguments for anything. Gun control, immigration, Trump, taxes, whatever. Your only position is that liberals are hypocrites for not living up to their beliefs on something. One day, when you start taking positions, I will actually discuss those positions. Until then, I am just going to rag on you for being a tuquoque fairy. It's easy to pat yourself on the back as you walk away from a discussion when you never actually say anything. Just look at his silly stuff with plansix. Every reply he brings up something p6 already apologized for. GH doing that repeatedly shows you all you need to know about his discussions. P6 keeps coming up because he chooses to opine on an issue for which he lied to all of us, not half apologized as he's been credited for. If you need more than what p6 did as an apology, I'd hate to be your boyfriend, lol. He lied, and I think he knows it, but is pretending like he doesn't. I'd prefer he just admit to it so we can move on.
I didn't fucking lie. But I am getting fucking tried of you claiming I did.
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Take it easy guys. Just drop the subject if you're not getting anywhere.
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On February 27 2018 12:13 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 12:07 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 12:03 Mohdoo wrote:On February 27 2018 11:59 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:52 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:49 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:
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I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. [quote]
I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours.
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Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real? Hey fellow liberal comrade, did you hear how many MUSLIMS love Hillary? Just look at all these frightening Muslim women, surely about to breed even! Just saying this as an earnest Hillary supporter. This is 100% legitimate Hillary supporting propaganda. Well, it's clear you guys have nothing if this is where you're going. As the resident TuQuoQue fairy, you bravely stand for nothing while offering no positive arguments for anything. Gun control, immigration, Trump, taxes, whatever. Your only position is that liberals are hypocrites for not living up to their beliefs on something. One day, when you start taking positions, I will actually discuss those positions. Until then, I am just going to rag on you for being a tuquoque fairy. It's easy to pat yourself on the back as you walk away from a discussion when you never actually say anything. Just look at his silly stuff with plansix. Every reply he brings up something p6 already apologized for. GH doing that repeatedly shows you all you need to know about his discussions. P6 keeps coming up because he chooses to opine on an issue for which he lied to all of us, not half apologized as he's been credited for. And you still continue to treat everyone with haughty disdain for have the gall to not lick your boot and beg forgiveness when Clinton lost. But we manage to only bring it up when you become especially insufferable. Which happens to be when the Russia topic comes up and you come in to tell us how stupid we all are, while you are SO much smarter and didn't get sucked in at all.
It's not an intelligence thing, and you may have missed it but it wasn't long ago where I got sucked into the propaganda about how much Russia spent being reported out of the indictment until I double checked and realized we (the liberals and I) had both just accepted the sensationalized reporting as fact. It happens to the best of us.
The difference is your refusal to engage with how it happened and it's wider implications, particularly as the two pieces of propaganda cited by you and mohdoo STILL sit as factual reporting on their respective sites and haven't been challenged by responsible liberal talking heads/reporters.
It helps when you engage with the argument across from you and not the boogieman you created in your head to justify your behavior.
I didn't fucking lie. But I am getting fucking tried of you claiming I did.
Yeah, you did
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On February 27 2018 11:49 Wulfey_LA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2018 11:45 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:43 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:40 hunts wrote:On February 27 2018 11:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:32 Wulfey_LA wrote:On February 27 2018 11:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 27 2018 11:21 Wulfey_LA wrote:
No. I am explaining why you (GH) spouting their lines is bad. Their propaganda leads to terrible things. See, the Ukranian War. You would first have to show me spouting their lines. I agree propaganda leads to terrible things, like wars. Especially when the "anti-war" liberals are completely blind to the propaganda they are repeating and spreading. Every other post you make is BUT THE WEST IS JUST AS BAD. That has been the line for decades out of Russia, event back to the Soviet days. I'd say the West is better in many ways, comparable in many and worse in plenty. That's not some pre-Putin Russian propaganda, that's the power of observation. But if my acknowledgment that the west does really fucked up shit around the world is what is your best example of me "spouting their lines' you're more far lost than I would have guessed. On February 27 2018 11:35 hunts wrote:From the article GH linked that never mentiones bernie according to GH. The Russians in the indictment acted as an organization, and employees who ran the accounts were directed to create “political intensity through supporting radical groups” and to criticize Hillary Clinton, but not Donald J. Trump or Bernie Sanders. I think you've pretty thoroughly displayed that reading comprehension isn't a strong area of yours. It doesn't even make a claim about supporting Bernie but merely only critiquing Hillary and promoting pro and anti Trump rallies. Just sit down on this before you embarrass yourself and your side of this any further. So you're claiming "criticize everyone that isn't bernie or trump" is not the same as "support bernie and trump? Are you kidding me, or are you just playing dumb right now? Also you keep talking about "liberal propaganda" yet you have not shown a single valid example. Come on dude, even you can't possibly think you're being serious at this point, comrade. Yeah, I'm saying criticizing Hillary isn't the same thing as manipulating people into supporting Bernie. I've given two very specific examples of propaganda at least 1 of which NO ONE contends isn't propaganda that was quoted and cited here as evidence of Russia's influence. You are the one with absolutely no evidence of your claim and a remarkable determination to even try to verify your own propaganda with the data they presented themselves. So criticizing Hillary and every other democrat that isn't bernie, but leaving bernie alone so that he looks better in comparison, isn't supporting him? Are you for real? Hey fellow liberal comrade, did you hear how many MUSLIMS love Hillary? Just look at all these frightening Muslim women, surely about to breed even! Just saying this as an earnest Hillary supporter. This is 100% legitimate Hillary supporting propaganda.
Why yes, fellow comr err liberal, I did. I must say I am quite scared of them coming here and establishing their shakira law. In mother ruu America, we do trust hips that do not lie.
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The "left" / DNC have turned into McCarthy's. It's comical. You guys see Red under your bed too?
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On February 27 2018 12:18 Nixer wrote:
Take it easy guys. Just drop the subject if you're not getting anywhere.
That is the goal of whataboutism.
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