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On February 27 2018 06:39 On_Slaught wrote: GA senate, which was pro the tax break last week, just blocked it. Can say with confidence Atlanta just lost the Amazon HQ bid...
Yay for third-world States! Delta run away! You'll get better deals anywhere you go.
I would love for Delta to leave and just put out that tweet for the reason why
This is one of the lasting legacy's that was Reagan to shut them down and send them into the street, but...
President Donald Trump on Monday advocated for more institutions to deal with mental health, adding that there is “no halfway” between jail and those who need help on the streets.
“We have to confront the issue and we have to discuss mental health and we have to do something about it,” the president said. “You know, in the old days we had mental institutions. We had a lot of them. And you could nab somebody like this, because they … knew something was off. You had to know that. People were calling all over the place.”
Trump’s comments came during a White House meeting with 39 of the nation’s governors on gun safety, which was prompted by the Feb. 14 school shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, in which 17 were killed.
Following the Parkland shooting, the president noted that the suspect, Nikolas Cruz, was “mentally disturbed,” and he urged Americans to report such individuals. During his remarks on Monday, Trump noted that there were “39 red flags” with Cruz but that law enforcement didn’t do anything.
Trump said people used to be able to be taken to mental institutions to get help.
“He’s off the streets. You can’t arrest him, I guess, because he hasn’t done anything, but you know he’s like a boiler ready to explode, right?” the president said. “You can’t put him in jail, I guess, because he hasn’t done anything. But in the old days, you would put him into a mental institution.”
Trump also said that governments began closing institutions because of costs, and that such decisions were made by some of the governors in that room.
“We’re going to have to start talking about mental institutions, because a lot of folks in this room closed their mental institutions also,” he said. “We have no halfway. We have nothing between a prison and leaving him at his house, which we can’t do anymore. So I think you folks have to start thinking about that.”
On February 27 2018 06:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Extortion...? Also threatening one the states biggest employers surely has no way of backfiring.
So the NRA is no longer an organisation that merely supports the 2nd Amendment rights of all Americans? Thanks for admitting to the public that the NRA a conservative organisation that only represents the rights of a fraction of gun owners.
Could you imagine if Rom Emannuel tried to force Hobby Lobby to give Planned Parenthood members a discount? Or a state forced a private cake maker to make gay cakes? Imagine the conservative outcry!
The real question is what gun will he use to kill the legislation
on another note, another disgusting display from Trump. First saying you need to arm teachers for the volume. Then flaming sheriff deputy's who are better trained than any of the teachers would be and then saying he would run into the school himself, even if unarmed.
On February 27 2018 07:42 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: The real question is what gun will he use to kill the legislation
on another note, another disgusting display from Trump. First saying you need to arm teachers for the volume. Then flaming sheriff deputy's who are better trained than any of the teachers would and then saying he would run into the school himself, even if unarmed.
So the NRA is no longer an organisation that merely supports the 2nd Amendment rights of all Americans? Thanks for admitting to the public that the NRA a conservative organisation that only represents the rights of a fraction of gun owners.
This is a group that won't even admit they are a lobby. They are a community of responsible gun owners that just happens to have Ted Nugent on their board of directors. And if you know anything about the lifestyle of Ted Nugent, it is all about safe behavior with fire arms.
On February 27 2018 06:29 Wulfey_LA wrote: I can't wait for the cavalcade of frail gunowners showing their butthurt as highschoolers trigger them. Oh wait! It is already here! Every last righty is a crying weak victim through and through. Not a shred of integrity or maniless in the entire lot. Zero exceptions.
He is using his status as victim to inappropriately and ridiculously attack people while going unchallenged.
David Hogg is a bully.
He may be a survivor of the high school shooting in Parkland, FL, but he is using that position to avoid being challenged on his increasingly inane and hostile statements. He is using his position to bully others.
First, he slandered Dana Loesch on television without challenge. He accused her of a litany of terribles and a failure to support victims. He turns the NRA into murderers.
And now he's on television blaming the Governor of Florida for not stopping the shooter at the high school. Hogg will not blame the elected Sheriff. He will not blame the deputies who refused to go into the building. No, the real culprit is Rick Scott, the Governor, whose office is hundreds of miles away in Tallahassee. David Hogg wants Scott held accountable as the boss of the Sheriff and ignores that Sheriff Israel is elected.
David Hogg is a bully. He goes on television and knows he gets to use what happened to him as a shield to avoid criticism. The media allows him to attack all the targets the media would be attacking anyway. They do not question him or hold him accountable. It further emboldens him to attack others.
Again and again, his attacks are slanderous and without merit. He has a PR crafted Wikipedia page, he gets PR bookings on the news shows, and at some point someone should probably get the kid a grief counsellor instead of a TV gig. Regardless, what we are seeing is that no, high school kids are not people we should take seriously on any subject. If he cannot hold all the people who screwed up accountable because of his agenda and he accuses anyone who disagrees with him of hatred, he is not someone any of us should pay attention to.
So has Hogg started getting death threats yet? That seems the only way to complete the irony (boy survives school shooting, speaks out about how it makes him feel, gun owners start threatening to kill him).
On February 27 2018 00:11 hunts wrote: It's ok guys we shouldn't worry about russia and should instead worry about our own propaganda sources like NYT right?
The former communist country is trying to influence American's attitudes about genetically engineered crops and biotechnology, according to new Iowa State University research.
Russia is funding articles shared online that question the safety of GMOs in an effort hurt U.S. agriculture interests and bolster its position as the "ecologically clean alternative" to genetically engineered food, said Shawn Dorius, an ISU assistant sociology professor.
Turning the U.S. or world against GMOs "would have a clear negative effect on an industry in the U.S. and could advantage Russia," Dorius said.
Their research says Russia seeks to expand its economy's agricultural sector, which is now its second-largest industry after oil and gas.
"That's a primary interest, but there are multiple interests. One of which is to stir up division in the U.S.," Lawrence-Dill said.
Yeah, definitely something to be concerned about. I'd say it deserves about the same media coverage as the notion that oil companies and others are doing the exact same thing.
So the NRA is no longer an organisation that merely supports the 2nd Amendment rights of all Americans? Thanks for admitting to the public that the NRA a conservative organisation that only represents the rights of a fraction of gun owners.
This is a group that won't even admit they are a lobby. They are a community of responsible gun owners that just happens to have Ted Nugent on their board of directors. And if you know anything about the lifestyle of Ted Nugent, it is all about safe behavior with fire arms.
Ted Nugent? Not the Ted Nugent that shat himself to get out of military service?
So the NRA is no longer an organisation that merely supports the 2nd Amendment rights of all Americans? Thanks for admitting to the public that the NRA a conservative organisation that only represents the rights of a fraction of gun owners.
This is a group that won't even admit they are a lobby. They are a community of responsible gun owners that just happens to have Ted Nugent on their board of directors. And if you know anything about the lifestyle of Ted Nugent, it is all about safe behavior with fire arms.
Ted Nugent? Not the Ted Nugent that shat himself to get out of military service?
The man who I watched nearly chop his own leg of with a chainsaw on television just because he is a moron. I thought he just did a bunch of drugs to dodge the draft, however.
On February 27 2018 09:47 Plansix wrote: How to get weapon's grade plutonium into the hands of a terrorist group, by the Trump Administration. Like what are they doing over there?
Kushner's resolving the issue of peace in the middle east.
If it's a radioactive wasteland, there's no people fighting over the land, ergo peace.
On February 27 2018 06:29 Wulfey_LA wrote: I can't wait for the cavalcade of frail gunowners showing their butthurt as highschoolers trigger them. Oh wait! It is already here! Every last righty is a crying weak victim through and through. Not a shred of integrity or maniless in the entire lot. Zero exceptions.
He is using his status as victim to inappropriately and ridiculously attack people while going unchallenged.
David Hogg is a bully.
He may be a survivor of the high school shooting in Parkland, FL, but he is using that position to avoid being challenged on his increasingly inane and hostile statements. He is using his position to bully others.
First, he slandered Dana Loesch on television without challenge. He accused her of a litany of terribles and a failure to support victims. He turns the NRA into murderers.
And now he's on television blaming the Governor of Florida for not stopping the shooter at the high school. Hogg will not blame the elected Sheriff. He will not blame the deputies who refused to go into the building. No, the real culprit is Rick Scott, the Governor, whose office is hundreds of miles away in Tallahassee. David Hogg wants Scott held accountable as the boss of the Sheriff and ignores that Sheriff Israel is elected.
David Hogg is a bully. He goes on television and knows he gets to use what happened to him as a shield to avoid criticism. The media allows him to attack all the targets the media would be attacking anyway. They do not question him or hold him accountable. It further emboldens him to attack others.
Again and again, his attacks are slanderous and without merit. He has a PR crafted Wikipedia page, he gets PR bookings on the news shows, and at some point someone should probably get the kid a grief counsellor instead of a TV gig. Regardless, what we are seeing is that no, high school kids are not people we should take seriously on any subject. If he cannot hold all the people who screwed up accountable because of his agenda and he accuses anyone who disagrees with him of hatred, he is not someone any of us should pay attention to.
So has Hogg started getting death threats yet? That seems the only way to complete the irony (boy survives school shooting, speaks out about how it makes him feel, gun owners start threatening to kill him).
The Trump Tweet that actually get Hogg some death threats is coming. Just wait. Trump will probably accuse the kid of cowardice for not tackling the shooter himself, because gun control would make him disarmed or something insane.
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