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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
February 26 2018 15:11 GMT
#199461
It's ok guys we shouldn't worry about russia and should instead worry about our own propaganda sources like NYT right?

The former communist country is trying to influence American's attitudes about genetically engineered crops and biotechnology, according to new Iowa State University research.

Russia is funding articles shared online that question the safety of GMOs in an effort hurt U.S. agriculture interests and bolster its position as the "ecologically clean alternative" to genetically engineered food, said Shawn Dorius, an ISU assistant sociology professor.

Turning the U.S. or world against GMOs "would have a clear negative effect on an industry in the U.S. and could advantage Russia," Dorius said.

Their research says Russia seeks to expand its economy's agricultural sector, which is now its second-largest industry after oil and gas.

"That's a primary interest, but there are multiple interests. One of which is to stir up division in the U.S.," Lawrence-Dill said.


https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/agriculture/2018/02/25/russia-seeks-influence-usa-opinion-gmos-iowa-state-research/308338002/
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10811 Posts
February 26 2018 15:14 GMT
#199462
Agree

Its just that the stuff Russia did shouldn't and wouldn't split a country apart like it did in the US if there weren't allready giant issues with the peoples willingness to "trust" the goverment (or the opposing party).
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 15:17:53
February 26 2018 15:17 GMT
#199463
On February 26 2018 23:47 Velr wrote:
Arguably the US meddling was way worse. Last i checked Russia didn't do a coup in the US. It just spilled some fuel into your elections and you gladly lit everything on fire.


Yeah, I think ideally we'd use this as a wake up call that we should probably stop meddling and try to put forth a new set of norms in that regard while also hardening out systems and protecting the integrity of our systems. Though it looks like a lot of officials are only interested in the latter effort.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 26 2018 15:33 GMT
#199464
On February 27 2018 00:14 Velr wrote:
Agree

Its just that the stuff Russia did shouldn't and wouldn't split a country apart like it did in the US if there weren't allready giant issues with the peoples willingness to "trust" the goverment (or the opposing party).

That is a sound argument. However, deal with those divides requires people to put down the honed tools they have been using to get elected for a decade or longer. And companies that make billions to cut into their profitability change the face of social media. No one will do that without overwhelming evidence as to how harmful those things are.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7712 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 16:00:17
February 26 2018 15:58 GMT
#199465
Edit: wrong thread sry guys
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
February 26 2018 17:10 GMT
#199466
On February 27 2018 00:58 PoulsenB wrote:
Edit: wrong thread sry guys


What, we're supposed to just FORGIVE you? Like nothing happened? You can't just post in the wrong thread, ruin people's lives, and expect us not to hold a grudge. People DIED, man.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45078 Posts
February 26 2018 17:17 GMT
#199467
On February 27 2018 02:10 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 00:58 PoulsenB wrote:
Edit: wrong thread sry guys


What, we're supposed to just FORGIVE you? Like nothing happened? You can't just post in the wrong thread, ruin people's lives, and expect us not to hold a grudge. People DIED, man.


What is the probability that PoulsenB was colluding with Russia during the post retraction?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 26 2018 17:20 GMT
#199468
On February 27 2018 02:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 02:10 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:58 PoulsenB wrote:
Edit: wrong thread sry guys


What, we're supposed to just FORGIVE you? Like nothing happened? You can't just post in the wrong thread, ruin people's lives, and expect us not to hold a grudge. People DIED, man.


What is the probability that PoulsenB was colluding with Russia during the post retraction?

There is a 2000% that he was shit posting about potential plans to get a new apartment and did it in the wrong threat. My sources are good on this one.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 19:24:02
February 26 2018 17:34 GMT
#199469
On February 27 2018 02:20 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 02:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On February 27 2018 02:10 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 27 2018 00:58 PoulsenB wrote:
Edit: wrong thread sry guys


What, we're supposed to just FORGIVE you? Like nothing happened? You can't just post in the wrong thread, ruin people's lives, and expect us not to hold a grudge. People DIED, man.


What is the probability that PoulsenB was colluding with Russia during the post retraction?

There is a 2000% that he was shit posting about potential plans to get a new apartment and did it in the wrong threat. My sources are good on this one.


And we are supposed to trust YOU? Who are your sources? Again with this anonymous source crap #FakeNews

Edit- this is how you know it is a slow day in US Pol
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 26 2018 19:54 GMT
#199470
So when basic utilities start to fail like sewage systems, drinking water, and of course it costs billions just to electrify the long lost town the Government should tell them hell no.

Ms. Kuhns, the president of Louisiana Bayoukeeper, an advocacy group for water quality and clean fisheries, pointed out that she did not lock her door (which flies open all day as her 17 grandchildren come and go). There have been but two murders in Jean Lafitte in the past 20 years, compared with 3,829 in New Orleans.

At the center of town sits St. Anthony Catholic Church, which sponsors the Blessing of the Fleet Festival when brown shrimp season opens each spring. The first catch fills the freezers of cousins and neighbors before anything left is sold to Nunez Seafood and other dockside wholesalers.

After a long day on the water, some may wet their whistle with $2.75 Budweisers at Mitch Martin’s Welcome Inn, where a swamp-pop band plays on Wednesday nights and gray-haired ladies line dance.

The tavern is run by Timothy and Thomas Wiseman, brothers better known as White Boy and Zabo. Almost everybody in Lafitte has a nickname, some more self-explanatory than others: Skinny Boy, Sandbags, Lunch Meat, Pink Cow. When Tom Wiseman, 52, was a child, someone decided he looked like another guy nicknamed Zabo. “Forty years it has followed me now,” he said.

The Wisemans find that the absence of levee protection reinforces the sense of Lafitte as a place apart, for better and worse. “We’re outside the line, and they don’t care about us,” Tim Wiseman, 54, said. “It’s always been like that.”

“Now we just expect water and damage every five years,” his brother said. “It’s a way of life.”

“And you know what? It still does not make us want to leave,” Tim said. “Are we economically feasible? Hell no. But this place will survive. If we end up living on rafts, there will be people living here.”

Although only two feet above sea level, Lafitte rarely experienced significant damage from hurricanes until 2005. That year, Katrina’s 120-mile-per-hour winds stripped roofs off houses; a month later, Rita sent enough water coursing through lower Jefferson Parish to dislodge whitewashed tombs from graveyards. Homeowners in Lafitte found skulls and an artificial hip among the debris. Together, the storms forced the demolition of more than 150 houses.

There would be more of the same with Hurricanes Gustav and Ike in 2008, Tropical Storm Lee in 2011 and Hurricane Isaac in 2012. With only 2,000 residents, the Town of Jean Lafitte racked up $9.3 million in federal flood insurance payments in the eight years after Katrina, according to an analysis by Rui Hui, a researcher at the University of California, Davis. (Statewide, the program has paid out $19.5 billion in claims since 1978, or 30 percent of the national total, including $1 billion for properties that have flooded repeatedly, according to the Federal Emergency Management Agency.)

“The first time, I sat on the sofa and just watched it come in,” remembered Chris Dufrene, 73, whose house flooded three times before he had it elevated eight feet three years ago. “Worst feeling I’ve ever had. Nothing you can do about it.”


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 26 2018 21:11 GMT
#199471
Extortion...? Also threatening one the states biggest employers surely has no way of backfiring.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
February 26 2018 21:17 GMT
#199472
On February 27 2018 06:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Extortion...? Also threatening one the states biggest employers surely has no way of backfiring.

https://twitter.com/CaseyCagle/status/968199605803454465



I mean I know people do this... but isn't coming out and saying that super illegal?
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
February 26 2018 21:18 GMT
#199473
Donor-class leadership hard at work.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21961 Posts
February 26 2018 21:18 GMT
#199474
On February 27 2018 06:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Extortion...? Also threatening one the states biggest employers surely has no way of backfiring.

https://twitter.com/CaseyCagle/status/968199605803454465

Capitalism is god. Unless they say something conservatives don't like then its ok for the government to openly threaten the company.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 21:22:58
February 26 2018 21:18 GMT
#199475
Special kind of stupid tweeting that out. Would be shocked if Delta caved to such a threat.

Apparently Delta actually has a tax issue before the State. Part of me hopes this is the first step in Delta saying fuck you to Georgia and peacing out.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 21:24:27
February 26 2018 21:22 GMT
#199476
He has other gems too



Apparently it's discrimination to not offer a discount for being an NRA member?

I guess this is the worst discrimination we've seen since the 60's when minorities needed 8 stamps for their free sub instead of 6.
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Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
February 26 2018 21:29 GMT
#199477
I can't wait for the cavalcade of frail gunowners showing their butthurt as highschoolers trigger them. Oh wait! It is already here! Every last righty is a crying weak victim through and through. Not a shred of integrity or maniless in the entire lot. Zero exceptions.



He is using his status as victim to inappropriately and ridiculously attack people while going unchallenged.

David Hogg is a bully.

He may be a survivor of the high school shooting in Parkland, FL, but he is using that position to avoid being challenged on his increasingly inane and hostile statements. He is using his position to bully others.

First, he slandered Dana Loesch on television without challenge. He accused her of a litany of terribles and a failure to support victims. He turns the NRA into murderers.

And now he's on television blaming the Governor of Florida for not stopping the shooter at the high school. Hogg will not blame the elected Sheriff. He will not blame the deputies who refused to go into the building. No, the real culprit is Rick Scott, the Governor, whose office is hundreds of miles away in Tallahassee. David Hogg wants Scott held accountable as the boss of the Sheriff and ignores that Sheriff Israel is elected.

David Hogg is a bully. He goes on television and knows he gets to use what happened to him as a shield to avoid criticism. The media allows him to attack all the targets the media would be attacking anyway. They do not question him or hold him accountable. It further emboldens him to attack others.

Again and again, his attacks are slanderous and without merit. He has a PR crafted Wikipedia page, he gets PR bookings on the news shows, and at some point someone should probably get the kid a grief counsellor instead of a TV gig. Regardless, what we are seeing is that no, high school kids are not people we should take seriously on any subject. If he cannot hold all the people who screwed up accountable because of his agenda and he accuses anyone who disagrees with him of hatred, he is not someone any of us should pay attention to.



https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/erick-erickson/david-hogg-is-a-high-school-bully-mSI3k3Njd0OcUaS-35pFDQ
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 26 2018 21:38 GMT
#199478
Erik Erikson is pretty much an Evangelical fascist. Never mind the fact that he is actively encouraging it.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 26 2018 21:38 GMT
#199479
Cagle is an idiot - this would be like threatening Coca Cola with a soda tax.

Unfortunately he's also likely to be the next governor of GA. Nathan Deal might be kind of corrupt, but at least he isn't completely backwards.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-26 21:39:36
February 26 2018 21:39 GMT
#199480
GA senate, which was pro the tax break last week, just blocked it. Can say with confidence Atlanta just lost the Amazon HQ bid...

Yay for third-world States! Delta run away! You'll get better deals anywhere you go.
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