US Politics Mega-thread - Page 9954

On February 22 2018 14:42 a_flayer wrote:
"Right to live" probably isn't in the constitution, is it? Since the US government allows itself to murder people at will.

On February 22 2018 13:59 xDaunt wrote:


There are plenty of idiots on the right who don't know how to argue the issue. Regardless, considering that they're not the ones looking to infringe upon constitutional rights just to appease the mob, I'm not too worried about them.

On February 22 2018 13:43 xDaunt wrote:

Since when is a bunch of ignorant school kids the authority on anything? Of course their opinions should be discounted. The average person -- and even moreso, the average high school student -- is a goddamned moron. I don't want them deciding any kind of substantive policy.

And of course the ignorant school kids would latch on to the easy, emotional, and lazy response to a tragedy like this: blame the guns. I'd expect nothing less from the bleeding heart left. What I am still waiting for is a real discussion regarding how thoroughly the community failed this kid. God forbid we ever engage in a little introspection.

On February 22 2018 13:10 hunts wrote:


I realize that you are just a broken record because this has been said many times by many different people, but the only thing "wrong" with Hillary was your russian propaganda, and your republican propaganda. Her actual policies were fine. Unlike bronald trumpders, she actually knew how a government functions and what a president can and can't do. Unlike them and the other republicans, she actually knew how foreign policy works. You can try and say she ran a bad campaign, which no one would argue. But for you and a few others to continuously and with zero facts keep saying she was a bad candidate, is just silly and wrong. You might as well come in here and say that the sky is brown, that trump is a good president, and that russia didn't influence the election.

On February 22 2018 17:59 Nebuchad wrote:


At some point we're going to have a discussion about neoliberalism aren't we.

On February 22 2018 18:18 GreenHorizons wrote:


A man can dream. But I honestly don't know how the shame of not having the courage to confront this stuff hasn't completely overwhelmed them.

On February 22 2018 18:38 hunts wrote:


Not having the courage to confront people spewing a bunch of bollocks that they have no actual backing for? Maybe we have better things to do with our time than argue with someone who has constantly repeated the same thing despite being proven wrong time and again.

On February 22 2018 18:38 hunts wrote:


Not having the courage to confront people spewing a bunch of bollocks that they have no actual backing for? Maybe we have better things to do with our time than argue with someone who has constantly repeated the same thing despite being proven wrong time and again.

On February 22 2018 18:48 GreenHorizons wrote:


lol.

It's been clearly demonstrated you (and others) are the ones spewing a bunch of bollocks without backing. I mean I've made several posts detailing the several times this has happened just in the last week or so.

That you won't even try to link some previous post showing me being proven wrong, like I have several times showing why you're wrong is what I'm talking about by not being overwhelmed with shame.

I don't understand how you don't think this makes you look completely foolish and instead continue. At least P6 had the sense to just stop repeating or backing up the ridiculous notion that it's Russian propaganda that influenced people like myself or that liberals aren't the very victims of propaganda they spent months accusing the left of.

That's why they've abandoned you on this, and what used to be a chorus of people backing up this nonsense, is down to pretty much just you. Though I wouldn't put it past them to try again at some point in the future.

On February 22 2018 19:08 Biff The Understudy wrote:

I wonder if you are not being a bit disongenous with that P6 thing. The problem with Russia was not only their fake news farms and desinformation campaign. They released hacked emails that kept an aura of scandal around Clinton for the whole campaign that you exploited and got completely obsessed with. Because apparently the DNC being a biaised was more of a story than potentially electing the forseable least qualified and most dangerous president of US history. (On a related note, I read a book about the cuban missile crisis recently. I am entirely certain that if Trump had been president instead of JFK, civilization wouldn’t exist anymore).

You can probably find stuff like the DNC crap in every single election and one can only imagine the shitshow it would have been if it was Trump who had been hacked. Russia brought it to the stage with an orchestrated timing and you guys got obsessed with it. And arguably, Hillary lost because for some obscure reason, people got convinced that she was less trustable than a guy who lies every sentence without even realizing it’s a problem.

On February 22 2018 11:50 semantics wrote:
Handguns in general are alot harder to obtain in most states but long guns like an AR-15 tend to have few restrictions. That's probably because we perceived handguns, smaller weapons you can hide as a bigger threat to the general public. Which in part is probably true when it comes to gun deaths on the avg, but not true when it comes to as weapon of choice in terrorism.

On February 22 2018 12:31 hunts wrote:


I sincerely hope that the awfulness of trump opens peoples eyes and we never see another republican president again until the party reforms to something reasonable and kicks out all of the crazies.

On February 22 2018 20:06 Gorsameth wrote:
Hiding a gun is important when they are illegal. But why care about it when you can legally walk around with it in full view while wearing tactical gear.


You mean like we thought after Bush? and here we are, 8 years later with people wishing Bush was back.

No, this isn't an anomaly. This is the real face of America.

On February 22 2018 15:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Indeed. Let’s keep shitting on those emo « goddamned morons » and not reflect on the fact that the idiot you voted for (that disqualify you to even talk about morons for a while, or at least it really should) signed a bill making sure nutcases could buy war weapons without being controlled whatsoever and made a budget cutting into the already abysmal mental health provisions.

Your gigantic hypocrisy aside, I don’t know how you can lack so much empathy. It’s painful.

On February 22 2018 20:26 iamthedave wrote:


The right is the home of HARD MEN, haven't you heard? And HARD MEN have no emotions. They have only GUNS and MONEY. They don't care about children getting shot, unless they haven't been born yet! Then their lives are EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

An unknown man threw a grenade at the US embassy in Podgorica, the capital of Montenegro, before blowing himself up with a second device, government officials have said.

The attack happened just before midnight on Wednesday, with people in the area hearing two explosions. No one else was hurt and there was no major damage.

“There was an incident,” a police official, who declined to give his name, told Reuters. He did not provide details.

A Reuters photographer in Podgorica said a police vehicle blocked the street where the embassy is located, adding that no damage was visible.

The embassy warned US citizens to stay away until further notice. “The US embassy in Podgorica advises US citizens there is an active security situation at the US embassy in Podgorica,” it said on its website. “Avoid the embassy until further notice.”

Montenegro, the smallest of all former Yugoslav republics, joined Nato in May last year, the 29th country to do so. The US established diplomatic ties with the tiny Balkan state in 2006 after it split from Serbia.

On February 22 2018 20:40 Biff The Understudy wrote:

I know. It’s a pity that our fucked up view on masculinity means men think themselves strong for being emotionally crippled, unaware and shut down, and borderline psychopathic when it comes to empathizing. It produces angry and violent people unable to take care of others or think remotely humanly.

Oh. And Trump.

On February 22 2018 21:00 GreenHorizons wrote:


It has it's uses. Primarily in warfare (not that Trump would know anything about that).

But is that it on the P6 thing? Did I clear it up for you?

On February 22 2018 21:29 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Yup, it looks to me that America is a nation of soldiers, and that militarism leaves a trace deeper in the country psychee than it looks at first glance. Which is why it’s so fucked by the way.

I understand what you say about that story but i partly disagree. Or rather you look only at half the problem.

Was there issues with the DNC? Yes. Was Hillary bad at managing her image? Yes. Was she an enbodiement of something that for good or bad reasons really pisses people off? Sure.

It doesn’t change the fact that a foreign country hacked the fuck of her party to have her beat and timed the release of more or less relevant content to create an atmosphere of scandal around her. And succeded. This election agenda was dictated by the releases, and no one seemed to notice that the US was about to elect this moronic monster as POTUS.

Those narratives are absolutely not exclusive. And you will see that many people will start to listen to what you have to say about the former the day you aknowledge the reality and the extreme seriousness of the later. When you say « the russian story is nothing and ... », no one listens to what comes after and, because a normal person will have already established you are not discussing in good faith.

On February 22 2018 21:29 Biff The Understudy wrote:

Yup, it looks to me that America is a nation of soldiers, and that militarism leaves a trace deeper in the country psychee than it looks at first glance. Which is why it’s so fucked by the way.

On February 22 2018 13:43 xDaunt wrote:

Since when is a bunch of ignorant school kids the authority on anything? Of course their opinions should be discounted. The average person -- and even moreso, the average high school student -- is a goddamned moron. I don't want them deciding any kind of substantive policy.

And of course the ignorant school kids would latch on to the easy, emotional, and lazy response to a tragedy like this: blame the guns. I'd expect nothing less from the bleeding heart left. What I am still waiting for is a real discussion regarding how thoroughly the community failed this kid. God forbid we ever engage in a little introspection.