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Plansix
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GreenHorizons
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On February 22 2018 11:59 Plansix wrote: I don’t think he had a very strong challenger in Florida. Considering the quality of politicians that Florida seems to produce, find a good opponent might be pretty rough. No matter how low Rubio sets the bar. This is probably true if you're looking in the same Democratic party that defends DWS in Florida. Look outside of people the party likes and you'll likely find quite a few better alternatives. | ||
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ticklishmusic
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On February 22 2018 11:59 Plansix wrote: I don’t think he had a very strong challenger in Florida. Considering the quality of politicians that Florida seems to produce, find a good opponent might be pretty rough. No matter how low Rubio sets the bar. Crist will probably run vs. Rubio if he thinks he can win. Might be some state level Democrat out there. | ||
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hunts
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On February 22 2018 11:57 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Make no mistake Rubio desperately wants to be President one day. I sincerely hope that the awfulness of trump opens peoples eyes and we never see another republican president again until the party reforms to something reasonable and kicks out all of the crazies. | ||
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LegalLord
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On February 22 2018 12:53 LegalLord wrote: On the contrary, Trump is living proof that as long as Democrats continue to try to push untenable candidates like Hillary and justify it with little more than “have you seen the other guys” then no change is necessary because you can even get a reality TV diva elected president. I realize that you are just a broken record because this has been said many times by many different people, but the only thing "wrong" with Hillary was your russian propaganda, and your republican propaganda. Her actual policies were fine. Unlike bronald trumpders, she actually knew how a government functions and what a president can and can't do. Unlike them and the other republicans, she actually knew how foreign policy works. You can try and say she ran a bad campaign, which no one would argue. But for you and a few others to continuously and with zero facts keep saying she was a bad candidate, is just silly and wrong. You might as well come in here and say that the sky is brown, that trump is a good president, and that russia didn't influence the election. | ||
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GreenHorizons
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On February 22 2018 13:10 hunts wrote: I realize that you are just a broken record because this has been said many times by many different people, but the only thing "wrong" with Hillary was your russian propaganda, and your republican propaganda. Her actual policies were fine. Unlike bronald trumpders, she actually knew how a government functions and what a president can and can't do. Unlike them and the other republicans, she actually knew how foreign policy works. You can try and say she ran a bad campaign, which no one would argue. But for you and a few others to continuously and with zero facts keep saying she was a bad candidate, is just silly and wrong. You might as well come in here and say that the sky is brown, that trump is a good president, and that russia didn't influence the election. Do you genuinely believe this? the only thing "wrong" with Hillary was your russian propaganda, and your republican propaganda. I feel like we pretty thoroughly discredited the notion that the left's problem with her was strictly Russian propaganda. I mean we're learning more and more about how mislead many liberals have been about the influence of Russian propaganda, particularly on the left. We have also demonstrated how the liberal perception of Russian propaganda has most definitely been manipulated by US propaganda and are finding out more every time it comes up. | ||
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Introvert
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On February 22 2018 13:10 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/igorvolsky/status/966503029204832261 I'm not dignifying this event with my viewership but the blindness is incredible. And a cheering crowd gives the game away. The left gives zero you know whats about a part of the bill of rights so when people object they are monsters. Meanwhile we can combine this with the Democrats utter cowardice on this issue when they have power because they want to save red state democrats and the whole things stinks more. I'm glad this is confined to the shooting thread for the most part. the left's rhetoric in this issue is particularly vile. | ||
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ticklishmusic
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Dana didn't exactly make the greatest case for the second amendment this evening. | ||
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GreenHorizons
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On February 22 2018 13:18 Introvert wrote: https://twitter.com/charlescwcooke/status/966502074941927424 I'm not dignifying this event with my viewership but the blindness is incredible. And a cheering crowd gives the game away. The left gives zero you know whats about a part of the bill of rights so when people object they are monsters. Meanwhile we can combine this with the Democrats utter cowardice on this issue when they have power because they want to save red state democrats and the whole things stinks more. I'm glad this is confined to the shooting thread for the most part. the left's rhetoric in this issue is particularly vile. In a country where Republicans couldn't care less about the systemic and massive violations of people's (particularly PoC) 4th amendment rights, the cries about the bill of rights falls completely flat. I'd say there's equally (if not far more) vile stuff coming out of the right as well. Dinesh de Dumbass comes to mind. The rest I can agree with. | ||
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Plansix
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On February 22 2018 13:21 ticklishmusic wrote: So, you didn't watch but you're going to just assume a bunch of things? Dana didn't exactly make the greatest case for the second amendment this evening. He made it clear, the children are wrong, the crowd are all democrats and everyone else who isn’t in the building thinks 18 year olds buying semi automatic rifles is cool. Americans in no way support enforcement of our existing laws and expanding systems to stop shootings like this. And those Americans also totally support arming teachers. | ||
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NewSunshine
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On February 22 2018 13:18 Introvert wrote: https://twitter.com/charlescwcooke/status/966502074941927424 I'm not dignifying this event with my viewership but the blindness is incredible. And a cheering crowd gives the game away. The left gives zero you know whats about a part of the bill of rights so when people object they are monsters. Meanwhile we can combine this with the Democrats utter cowardice on this issue when they have power because they want to save red state democrats and the whole things stinks more. I'm glad this is confined to the shooting thread for the most part. the left's rhetoric in this issue is particularly vile. What's so vile about detesting gun violence, or about seeing that there's no real reason for a civilian to own a weapon that can so easily kill 17 people? What about the fact that someone can so easily obtain such a weapon, before they're even old enough to purchase alcohol? Do you think that's okay, or what? Should anyone just be able to own a gun like this, what about regulations, tests, and background checks? I hate to interrupt your indignant soapboxing, but if you'd care to argue specifics on the issue that'd be swell. But if you'd like to just sit there and claim everyone else is wrong without even bothering to participate in watching them, that's your prerogative too. Just don't expect people to buy what you're selling. | ||
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Slaughter
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On February 22 2018 13:18 Introvert wrote: https://twitter.com/charlescwcooke/status/966502074941927424 I'm not dignifying this event with my viewership but the blindness is incredible. And a cheering crowd gives the game away. The left gives zero you know whats about a part of the bill of rights so when people object they are monsters. Meanwhile we can combine this with the Democrats utter cowardice on this issue when they have power because they want to save red state democrats and the whole things stinks more. I'm glad this is confined to the shooting thread for the most part. the left's rhetoric in this issue is particularly vile. Yea but you are completely fine with groups lobbying to change interpretations of those Bill of Rights so groups like the NRA and the gun companies can rake in more cash. | ||
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