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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 22 2018 15:13 GMT
#199101
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 22 2018 15:15 GMT
#199102


Now a CPAC the NRA PR teams make up stories about how high school kids were going to attack them. Mind you, they were on stage with law enforcement.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24504 Posts
February 22 2018 15:18 GMT
#199103
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280


Democrats, you're all going to be painted as socialists, may as well just actually support it.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 22 2018 15:24 GMT
#199104
The press also has a socialist agenda now. Most of the journalist I follow are asking who has been arranging the meetings and conference calls for this agenda, because they were not invited.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24504 Posts
February 22 2018 15:26 GMT
#199105
On February 23 2018 00:24 Plansix wrote:
The press also has a socialist agenda now. Most of the journalist I follow are asking who has been arranging the meetings and conference calls for this agenda, because they were not invited.


Probably be a lot easier to actually be socialist rather than try to campaign in between and have Republicans accusing you and leftists denying you are. But I'm pretty confident that whoever the Democratic establishment gets behind will adamantly deny being a socialist.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9077 Posts
February 22 2018 15:31 GMT
#199106
On February 22 2018 23:55 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2018 23:40 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Should have added the /s. Didn't think it would be needed. I was wrong. So, so very wrong.

There was clearly no point to it other than to just gush over cool-sounding ideas. Everyone needs their personal delusion.

And you still fail to see what I typed. Everyone else seems to have caught it. But you. No way. You're a rebel.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 15:38:29
February 22 2018 15:32 GMT
#199107
On February 23 2018 00:00 Plansix wrote:
The physics behind large scale space colonization would require us to develop tech to move asteroids and other large objects in space into earth orbit. And once you do the math for capturing anything worth using as building material, it is a short leap to crashing the thing into the side of the planet and a whole lot of people. That is the cool part about space. Everything is moving so god damn fast that you don’t even need bombs.


Finally the Republicans will have a way to deal with Democrats. Can't wait to see how 2nd Amendment Rights apply to personal asteroid usage, and how the mentally ill should have access to weaponised asteroids too.

On February 22 2018 23:17 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2018 23:11 iamthedave wrote:
On February 22 2018 23:07 LegalLord wrote:
Hopefully Trump will get back to having loyalists in administrative positions rather than allowing people like McMaster to just push them out.


Is that what McMaster's been doing?

Weren't most of the people recently 'pushed out' pushed out because of various scandals?
But who leaked the scandals forcing them out?


Random politicians, interns, the janitor, the White House cat, outgoing members of the Administration, Republicans in general, Democrats in general, Donald Trump on at least two occasions...

Just about anyone, really. The WH is a disorganised mess of people trying to climb over each other's corpses to bow at Dear Leader's feet and get a better (safer) position. It seems to be better now Bannon's gone, but the idea that one official can be behind all those leaks is insanity.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 15:47:14
February 22 2018 15:39 GMT
#199108
All the reporters I follow say that if they want dirt on the White House, they to the halls of congress. Because the staff love to talk.


Edit:



This is some awful shit right here.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 22 2018 15:48 GMT
#199109
On February 23 2018 00:31 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2018 23:55 LegalLord wrote:
On February 22 2018 23:40 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Should have added the /s. Didn't think it would be needed. I was wrong. So, so very wrong.

There was clearly no point to it other than to just gush over cool-sounding ideas. Everyone needs their personal delusion.

And you still fail to see what I typed. Everyone else seems to have caught it. But you. No way. You're a rebel.

As usual taking it awfully personally. Why am I not surprised?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 15:55:44
February 22 2018 15:54 GMT
#199110
On February 23 2018 00:15 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/966673033367781377

Now a CPAC the NRA PR teams make up stories about how high school kids were going to attack them. Mind you, they were on stage with law enforcement.


I love the disconnect of someone telling people to carry guns to protect themselves from mass shootings then claiming they had to flee a peaceful gathering of high school kids for their own safety.
Logo
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9077 Posts
February 22 2018 15:57 GMT
#199111
On February 23 2018 00:48 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 00:31 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
On February 22 2018 23:55 LegalLord wrote:
On February 22 2018 23:40 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Should have added the /s. Didn't think it would be needed. I was wrong. So, so very wrong.

There was clearly no point to it other than to just gush over cool-sounding ideas. Everyone needs their personal delusion.

And you still fail to see what I typed. Everyone else seems to have caught it. But you. No way. You're a rebel.

As usual taking it awfully personally. Why am I not surprised?

Being a negative fuck, as usual. Why am I not surprised?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 22 2018 15:57 GMT
#199112
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22702 Posts
February 22 2018 15:58 GMT
#199113
At this point I don't think there is any depth that I don't see the GOP sinking to.
The shit they are willing to do should be shocking but... its expected at this point.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 16:05:08
February 22 2018 15:59 GMT
#199114
On February 23 2018 00:54 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 00:15 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/966673033367781377

Now a CPAC the NRA PR teams make up stories about how high school kids were going to attack them. Mind you, they were on stage with law enforcement.


I love the disconnect of someone telling people to carry guns to protect themselves from mass shootings then claiming they had to flee a peaceful gathering of high school kids for their own safety.

They are talking about a socialist takeover of the US and are telling gun owners they should be afraid at CPAC. The leadership of the NRA is about stoking fears and grievance. They are in the business of making their members fear other Americans.

On February 23 2018 00:58 Gorsameth wrote:
At this point I don't think there is any depth that I don't see the GOP sinking to.
The shit they are willing to do should be shocking but... its expected at this point.


This is the conservative wing of the Republican party, who had been slowly taking over the party since 2010 and the rise of the Koch backed tea party movement. But at this point with so many moderates retiring, they might as well be the entire Republican party. But they are also a political group that has never been in the minority, which will be interesting to watch.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22702 Posts
February 22 2018 16:07 GMT
#199115
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 22 2018 16:13 GMT
#199116
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22702 Posts
February 22 2018 16:21 GMT
#199117
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.
"Respect/believe the constitution" is only ever used to defend the 2nd amendment.

What a paradise we would live in if Republicans have a 1/10th of the shit about the rest of the thing.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
February 22 2018 16:23 GMT
#199118
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.


I'd agree with that assessment. The problem is the same problem I have with biblical literalists. Just because some dude had a good idea a while ago doesn't mean that good idea is an immutably perfect ideal.

The basics of the constitution are good. But it needs to evolve. I don't believe Abraham Lincoln or the founding fathers in general were thinking that American children would use guns to murder each other, and if they were alive today, writing the constitution today, they'd be thinking the 2nd Amendment needed revisions to take that into account.

For a nation that's best known for thinking ahead and being innovative, it's weird to see how culturally enslaved you are to the ideals of a few decent, intelligent, but imperfect dead men.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18875 Posts
February 22 2018 16:24 GMT
#199119
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

Don't buy into their bullshit, the Constitution does not oppose socialism nor reasonable gun regulations the likes of which the NRA opposes at every juncture. The NRA's crowning jewel judicial decision is only a decade old, after all.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 22 2018 16:25 GMT
#199120
On February 23 2018 01:21 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.
"Respect/believe the constitution" is only ever used to defend the 2nd amendment.

What a paradise we would live in if Republicans have a 1/10th of the shit about the rest of the thing.


You Europeans are so cute in your ignorance of American politics. Maybe if you took a moment to read what conservative luminaries actually say instead of only paying attention to the cherry-picked bits that the left-wing media regurgitates for maximum political impact you'd actually find how ridiculous your post is.
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