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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 16:29:56
February 22 2018 16:26 GMT
#199121
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...



Good to hear from the radical fringe at CPAC. Hopefully Sheriff Clarke is up after Pence.

hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
February 22 2018 16:27 GMT
#199122
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.


Are you going to elaborate or just say something dumb and play your usual xdaunt game of "that's not what I said" "that's not what I meant" etc...?
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18869 Posts
February 22 2018 16:28 GMT
#199123
"Reactionary fringe*"

Also, it's hilarious that Dauntless one liner approves of a Wayne LaPierre garbage quote and then tells others to address context he approvingly ignored.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 22 2018 16:32 GMT
#199124
On February 23 2018 01:28 farvacola wrote:
"Reactionary fringe*"

Also, it's hilarious that Dauntless one liner approves of a Wayne LaPierre garbage quote and then tells others to address context he approvingly ignored.

It is the good old dauntless cycle: Say something provocative in the thread; people respond to provocative statement; call people who disagreed with statement stupid and tell them to go educate themselves; leave thread and play Total Warhammer.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 16:34:26
February 22 2018 16:32 GMT
#199125
On February 23 2018 01:25 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:21 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.
"Respect/believe the constitution" is only ever used to defend the 2nd amendment.

What a paradise we would live in if Republicans have a 1/10th of the shit about the rest of the thing.


You Europeans are so cute in your ignorance of American politics. Maybe if you took a moment to read what conservative luminaries actually say instead of only paying attention to the cherry-picked bits that the left-wing media regurgitates for maximum political impact you'd actually find how ridiculous your post is.


Whom are the luminaries in question?

Also, at least we manage to be cute. Try it sometime.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22566 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 16:34:10
February 22 2018 16:33 GMT
#199126
On February 23 2018 01:25 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:21 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.
"Respect/believe the constitution" is only ever used to defend the 2nd amendment.

What a paradise we would live in if Republicans have a 1/10th of the shit about the rest of the thing.


You Europeans are so cute in your ignorance of American politics. Maybe if you took a moment to read what conservative luminaries actually say instead of only paying attention to the cherry-picked bits that the left-wing media regurgitates for maximum political impact you'd actually find how ridiculous your post is.
Are you denying the words that come out of their mouths?
Are you denying the attacks being had on children who survived an atrocity for trying to prevent another?

I don't give a shit about the nice little idea's they spout in between attacking anything and everything. I can about what they do. And I have yet to see any of your vaulted conservatives luminaries do a god damn good thing.

Their last achievement was that disaster of a tax plan ffs.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
February 22 2018 16:37 GMT
#199127
On February 23 2018 01:33 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:25 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:21 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.
"Respect/believe the constitution" is only ever used to defend the 2nd amendment.

What a paradise we would live in if Republicans have a 1/10th of the shit about the rest of the thing.


You Europeans are so cute in your ignorance of American politics. Maybe if you took a moment to read what conservative luminaries actually say instead of only paying attention to the cherry-picked bits that the left-wing media regurgitates for maximum political impact you'd actually find how ridiculous your post is.
Are you denying the words that come out of their mouths?
Are you denying the attacks being had on children who survived an atrocity for trying to prevent another?

I don't give a shit about the nice little idea's they spout in between attacking anything and everything. I can about what they do. And I have yet to see any of your vaulted conservatives luminaries do a god damn good thing.

Their last achievement was that disaster of a tax plan ffs.


In fairness to Daunt, luminaries are very rarely politicians, they're usually philosophers and political scientists and the like. Politicians are more like workmen; they do the dirty business of making political theory into political fact. The luminaries are the dreamers.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22566 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 16:39:48
February 22 2018 16:39 GMT
#199128
On February 23 2018 01:37 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:33 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:25 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:21 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.
"Respect/believe the constitution" is only ever used to defend the 2nd amendment.

What a paradise we would live in if Republicans have a 1/10th of the shit about the rest of the thing.


You Europeans are so cute in your ignorance of American politics. Maybe if you took a moment to read what conservative luminaries actually say instead of only paying attention to the cherry-picked bits that the left-wing media regurgitates for maximum political impact you'd actually find how ridiculous your post is.
Are you denying the words that come out of their mouths?
Are you denying the attacks being had on children who survived an atrocity for trying to prevent another?

I don't give a shit about the nice little idea's they spout in between attacking anything and everything. I can about what they do. And I have yet to see any of your vaulted conservatives luminaries do a god damn good thing.

Their last achievement was that disaster of a tax plan ffs.


In fairness to Daunt, luminaries are very rarely politicians, they're usually philosophers and political scientists and the like. Politicians are more like workmen; they do the dirty business of making political theory into political fact. The luminaries are the dreamers.
Standing ontop their castles shouting how great Conservatism is while the actual conservatives that make laws do their best to funnel them money and fuck over minorities.

Yeah, really worth my time to listening to.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 22 2018 16:43 GMT
#199129
On February 23 2018 01:23 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.


I'd agree with that assessment. The problem is the same problem I have with biblical literalists. Just because some dude had a good idea a while ago doesn't mean that good idea is an immutably perfect ideal.

The basics of the constitution are good. But it needs to evolve. I don't believe Abraham Lincoln or the founding fathers in general were thinking that American children would use guns to murder each other, and if they were alive today, writing the constitution today, they'd be thinking the 2nd Amendment needed revisions to take that into account.

For a nation that's best known for thinking ahead and being innovative, it's weird to see how culturally enslaved you are to the ideals of a few decent, intelligent, but imperfect dead men.

What do you say to conservatives who think that they need the appropriate weaponry to fight back against a tyrannical government as they believe the 2nd amendment was intended? When it comes to the militia types It feels like the gun control conversation is entirely fruitless.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 16:58:20
February 22 2018 16:58 GMT
#199130
On February 23 2018 01:43 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:23 iamthedave wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.


I'd agree with that assessment. The problem is the same problem I have with biblical literalists. Just because some dude had a good idea a while ago doesn't mean that good idea is an immutably perfect ideal.

The basics of the constitution are good. But it needs to evolve. I don't believe Abraham Lincoln or the founding fathers in general were thinking that American children would use guns to murder each other, and if they were alive today, writing the constitution today, they'd be thinking the 2nd Amendment needed revisions to take that into account.

For a nation that's best known for thinking ahead and being innovative, it's weird to see how culturally enslaved you are to the ideals of a few decent, intelligent, but imperfect dead men.

What do you say to conservatives who think that they need the appropriate weaponry to fight back against a tyrannical government as they believe the 2nd amendment was intended? When it comes to the militia types It feels like the gun control conversation is entirely fruitless.


So long as Cletus believes he can stand a chance against marines and drones, they are gonna keep patting themselves on the back. These people need to feel masculinized and empowered against the government because they feel weak in other ways. Guns are a great way to add a boost of confidence and empowerment in people who otherwise struggle.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 17:11:29
February 22 2018 17:09 GMT
#199131
On February 23 2018 01:43 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:23 iamthedave wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.


I'd agree with that assessment. The problem is the same problem I have with biblical literalists. Just because some dude had a good idea a while ago doesn't mean that good idea is an immutably perfect ideal.

The basics of the constitution are good. But it needs to evolve. I don't believe Abraham Lincoln or the founding fathers in general were thinking that American children would use guns to murder each other, and if they were alive today, writing the constitution today, they'd be thinking the 2nd Amendment needed revisions to take that into account.

For a nation that's best known for thinking ahead and being innovative, it's weird to see how culturally enslaved you are to the ideals of a few decent, intelligent, but imperfect dead men.

What do you say to conservatives who think that they need the appropriate weaponry to fight back against a tyrannical government as they believe the 2nd amendment was intended? When it comes to the militia types It feels like the gun control conversation is entirely fruitless.


What do I say?

"You're gonna need a bigger gun."

Non-sardonically, I think deep down they know it, too; why else stockpile so MANY guns? But it depends on your reading, and the context. Did the founders think that the normal man needed to be safe from their own government, or was it a preparation against invasion from aggressive powers, such as the British Empire (you damn colonials! *shakes fist*), to ensure America never fell under anyone else's sway? I'm 100% certain they never intended the main use of the 2nd amendment would be for American citizens to kill other innocent American citizens over, basically, nothing, except seemingly the freedom for school children to murder each other while politicians tut, shake their heads, and lament at how there's nothing they can do about it in the one country in the developed world where it's an actual problem.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
February 22 2018 17:14 GMT
#199132
On February 23 2018 01:58 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:43 Tachion wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:23 iamthedave wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.


I'd agree with that assessment. The problem is the same problem I have with biblical literalists. Just because some dude had a good idea a while ago doesn't mean that good idea is an immutably perfect ideal.

The basics of the constitution are good. But it needs to evolve. I don't believe Abraham Lincoln or the founding fathers in general were thinking that American children would use guns to murder each other, and if they were alive today, writing the constitution today, they'd be thinking the 2nd Amendment needed revisions to take that into account.

For a nation that's best known for thinking ahead and being innovative, it's weird to see how culturally enslaved you are to the ideals of a few decent, intelligent, but imperfect dead men.

What do you say to conservatives who think that they need the appropriate weaponry to fight back against a tyrannical government as they believe the 2nd amendment was intended? When it comes to the militia types It feels like the gun control conversation is entirely fruitless.


So long as Cletus believes he can stand a chance against marines and drones, they are gonna keep patting themselves on the back. These people need to feel masculinized and empowered against the government because they feel weak in other ways. Guns are a great way to add a boost of confidence and empowerment in people who otherwise struggle.


They also seem to be paranoid af. Randomly overheard some guy who reading a paper about gun protests "thats stupid if someone with a gun walks up and shoots you what are you going to do without a gun?" This is the logic they run on.
Never Knows Best.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 22 2018 17:26 GMT
#199133
On February 23 2018 02:09 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:43 Tachion wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:23 iamthedave wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.


I'd agree with that assessment. The problem is the same problem I have with biblical literalists. Just because some dude had a good idea a while ago doesn't mean that good idea is an immutably perfect ideal.

The basics of the constitution are good. But it needs to evolve. I don't believe Abraham Lincoln or the founding fathers in general were thinking that American children would use guns to murder each other, and if they were alive today, writing the constitution today, they'd be thinking the 2nd Amendment needed revisions to take that into account.

For a nation that's best known for thinking ahead and being innovative, it's weird to see how culturally enslaved you are to the ideals of a few decent, intelligent, but imperfect dead men.

What do you say to conservatives who think that they need the appropriate weaponry to fight back against a tyrannical government as they believe the 2nd amendment was intended? When it comes to the militia types It feels like the gun control conversation is entirely fruitless.


What do I say?

"You're gonna need a bigger gun."

Non-sardonically, I think deep down they know it, too; why else stockpile so MANY guns? But it depends on your reading, and the context. Did the founders think that the normal man needed to be safe from their own government, or was it a preparation against invasion from aggressive powers, such as the British Empire (you damn colonials! *shakes fist*), to ensure America never fell under anyone else's sway? I'm 100% certain they never intended the main use of the 2nd amendment would be for American citizens to kill other innocent American citizens over, basically, nothing, except seemingly the freedom for school children to murder each other while politicians tut, shake their heads, and lament at how there's nothing they can do about it in the one country in the developed world where it's an actual problem.

Most of our county is rural and have wild animals, some of which can be dangerous. The tradition of gun ownership comes from that. It doesn’t mean semi-automatic rifles with 30 round clips make sense. But owning a shotgun where I grew up made perfect sense. My parent’s home is next to a ridge where black bears like to raise their cubs. It is like 300 yards away(across a pond).
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
February 22 2018 17:26 GMT
#199134
On February 23 2018 02:14 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:58 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:43 Tachion wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:23 iamthedave wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.


I'd agree with that assessment. The problem is the same problem I have with biblical literalists. Just because some dude had a good idea a while ago doesn't mean that good idea is an immutably perfect ideal.

The basics of the constitution are good. But it needs to evolve. I don't believe Abraham Lincoln or the founding fathers in general were thinking that American children would use guns to murder each other, and if they were alive today, writing the constitution today, they'd be thinking the 2nd Amendment needed revisions to take that into account.

For a nation that's best known for thinking ahead and being innovative, it's weird to see how culturally enslaved you are to the ideals of a few decent, intelligent, but imperfect dead men.

What do you say to conservatives who think that they need the appropriate weaponry to fight back against a tyrannical government as they believe the 2nd amendment was intended? When it comes to the militia types It feels like the gun control conversation is entirely fruitless.


So long as Cletus believes he can stand a chance against marines and drones, they are gonna keep patting themselves on the back. These people need to feel masculinized and empowered against the government because they feel weak in other ways. Guns are a great way to add a boost of confidence and empowerment in people who otherwise struggle.


They also seem to be paranoid af. Randomly overheard some guy who reading a paper about gun protests "thats stupid if someone with a gun walks up and shoots you what are you going to do without a gun?" This is the logic they run on.


And this is just another example of it being an ego stroke. What this guy is really saying is that if someone is aggressive and dangerous, he will be able to save people because of his strength. His gun empowers him to save people from dangerous people, which makes him a good, respectable, strong guy.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
February 22 2018 17:34 GMT
#199135
On February 23 2018 02:14 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:58 Mohdoo wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:43 Tachion wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:23 iamthedave wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.


I'd agree with that assessment. The problem is the same problem I have with biblical literalists. Just because some dude had a good idea a while ago doesn't mean that good idea is an immutably perfect ideal.

The basics of the constitution are good. But it needs to evolve. I don't believe Abraham Lincoln or the founding fathers in general were thinking that American children would use guns to murder each other, and if they were alive today, writing the constitution today, they'd be thinking the 2nd Amendment needed revisions to take that into account.

For a nation that's best known for thinking ahead and being innovative, it's weird to see how culturally enslaved you are to the ideals of a few decent, intelligent, but imperfect dead men.

What do you say to conservatives who think that they need the appropriate weaponry to fight back against a tyrannical government as they believe the 2nd amendment was intended? When it comes to the militia types It feels like the gun control conversation is entirely fruitless.


So long as Cletus believes he can stand a chance against marines and drones, they are gonna keep patting themselves on the back. These people need to feel masculinized and empowered against the government because they feel weak in other ways. Guns are a great way to add a boost of confidence and empowerment in people who otherwise struggle.


They also seem to be paranoid af. Randomly overheard some guy who reading a paper about gun protests "thats stupid if someone with a gun walks up and shoots you what are you going to do without a gun?" This is the logic they run on.

"If someone walks up and shoots you before you have a chance to draw your weapon, what are you gonna do?"
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10950 Posts
February 22 2018 17:46 GMT
#199136
You just have to be the fastest gun in the west!
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-22 18:08:34
February 22 2018 17:58 GMT
#199137
On February 23 2018 02:46 Velr wrote:
You just have to be the fastest gun in the west!

You also have to be living in the Wild West, which... good luck with that.

Don't do drugs, kids.

On February 23 2018 01:32 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:28 farvacola wrote:
"Reactionary fringe*"

Also, it's hilarious that Dauntless one liner approves of a Wayne LaPierre garbage quote and then tells others to address context he approvingly ignored.

It is the good old dauntless cycle: Say something provocative in the thread; people respond to provocative statement; call people who disagreed with statement stupid and tell them to go educate themselves; leave thread and play Total Warhammer.

Not just provocative; the game is to say something equal parts provocative and vague, so that when someone offers a counterpoint based on their interpretation of what he said, he can always claim he didn't say that, didn't mean that, and that the other person must then go back and "educate" themselves. He then gets to sit there and feel smug, while the other person runs around in circles. I mean, take his latest gem for example:

On February 23 2018 01:25 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:21 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.
"Respect/believe the constitution" is only ever used to defend the 2nd amendment.

What a paradise we would live in if Republicans have a 1/10th of the shit about the rest of the thing.


You Europeans are so cute in your ignorance of American politics. Maybe if you took a moment to read what conservative luminaries actually say instead of only paying attention to the cherry-picked bits that the left-wing media regurgitates for maximum political impact you'd actually find how ridiculous your post is.

He manages to defend his ridiculous and reductionist one-liner through a mix of American Exceptionalism and acting like a victim of some conspiratorial Left entity that's out to destroy the Constitution, all while keeping this statement just as vague as the first, and refusing to actually commit to a position. If you try and call him on a particular position, he'll always abandon ownership of it and act like he's some kind of victim facing persecution. The same shit happened when he bombed the thread with his Uranium One BS.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14207 Posts
February 22 2018 18:01 GMT
#199138
Can we move the nation bashing and the low level insults back to the gun thread like we intended when we made that thread?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
February 22 2018 18:05 GMT
#199139
On February 23 2018 01:25 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:21 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.
"Respect/believe the constitution" is only ever used to defend the 2nd amendment.

What a paradise we would live in if Republicans have a 1/10th of the shit about the rest of the thing.


You Europeans are so cute in your ignorance of American politics. Maybe if you took a moment to read what conservative luminaries actually say instead of only paying attention to the cherry-picked bits that the left-wing media regurgitates for maximum political impact you'd actually find how ridiculous your post is.

You're wrong. It doesn't regurgitate that stuff for maximum political impact. It does that for maximum profits. The political impact is a side-effect. Just like what clearly happens with the media that you consume and fuels your horrifyingly toxic view of "the Left".
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14207 Posts
February 22 2018 18:14 GMT
#199140
On February 23 2018 03:05 a_flayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 01:25 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:21 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:13 Plansix wrote:
On February 23 2018 01:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:57 xDaunt wrote:
On February 23 2018 00:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just realized that NRA is the GOP's armed paramilitary...

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/966691696586166280

Wayne's not wrong.

At this point not believing in the constitution is a positive from where I am sitting.
As is not believing in the god hand of capitalism so solve all problems.

The constitution is pretty good. The whole conservative argument around the constitution is that socialism runs counter to the basic tenets of the constitution and is therefore un-American. Of course, they are also pretty flexible on what “socialism” means.
"Respect/believe the constitution" is only ever used to defend the 2nd amendment.

What a paradise we would live in if Republicans have a 1/10th of the shit about the rest of the thing.


You Europeans are so cute in your ignorance of American politics. Maybe if you took a moment to read what conservative luminaries actually say instead of only paying attention to the cherry-picked bits that the left-wing media regurgitates for maximum political impact you'd actually find how ridiculous your post is.

You're wrong. It doesn't regurgitate that stuff for maximum political impact. It does that for maximum profits. The political impact is a side-effect. Just like what clearly happens with the media that you consume and fuels your horrifyingly toxic view of "the Left".

I don't know if you want to start talking about media fueling horrifyingly toxic views of a mythical political demographic.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
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