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hunts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Pretty much. Number 3 at the justice department is peacing out. Troubling sign to say the least. | ||
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Introvert
United States5068 Posts
It's a neat trick though, if the Democrats put more sensitive material in there and it has to be changed they can cry about it. Just ignore the FBI huffing and puffing now. Pretend it doesn't matter. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 10 2018 10:51 Introvert wrote: It's being sent it back to the obviously Trump friendly FBI and DOJ for their much longer memo to be reviewed and will release after that. Since of course everyone believes the FBI about the majority memo + edits and that's why the GOP memo isn't damning to national security as they warned, surely everyone will support this! Same process! It's a neat trick though, if they put more sensitive material in there and it has to be changed they can cry about it. Just ignore the FBI huffing and puffing now. Pretend it doesn't matter. Or Trump just rejected it because he can and the democrats can’t do shit about it. Bet he rejects it three more times. Seriously, these convoluted theories are cute, but this is a simple man surrounded by simple, incompetent people. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On February 10 2018 10:51 Introvert wrote: It's being sent it back to the obviously Trump friendly FBI and DOJ for their much longer memo to be reviewed and will release after that. Since of course everyone believes the FBI about the majority memo + edits and that's why the GOP memo isn't damning to national security as they warned, surely everyone will support this! Same process! It's a neat trick though, if the Democrats put more sensitive material in there and it has to be changed they can cry about it. Just ignore the FBI huffing and puffing now. Pretend it doesn't matter. How many times do you have to be proven wrong before you stop with the silly theories? | ||
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Introvert
United States5068 Posts
On February 10 2018 10:55 Plansix wrote: Or Trump just rejected it because he can and the democrats can’t do shit about it. Bet he rejects it three more times. Seriously, these convoluted theories are cute, but this is a simple man surrounded by simple, incompetent people. But you a Democrat memo comes out. And it will be longer than the GOP one. It is fun though that you can just ignore that the FBI had complaints about this one too. The other memo did have edits they wanted, but didn't retract all names. There will be a Dem memo. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
A Republican who has read the memo. On February 10 2018 10:58 Introvert wrote: But you a Democrat memo comes out. And it will be longer than the GOP one. It is fun though that you can just ignore that the FBI had complaints about this one too. The other memo did have edits they wanted, but didn't retract all names. There will be a Dem memo. Come on dude. Trump ignored the FBI on the last one, but not now? Come on. None of us are dumb enough to think Trump gives a shit about the FBIs concerns. | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On February 10 2018 10:58 Introvert wrote: But you a Democrat memo comes out. And it will be longer than the GOP one. It is fun though that you can just ignore that the FBI had complaints about this one too. The other memo did have edits they wanted, but didn't retract all names. There will be a Dem memo. The plan could not possibly be to delay it for several months until no one cares...oh wait its exactly that because the only time the concerns of the FBI matter are when those concerns help further his goals. Otherwise he has been shown to not really care about them. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On February 10 2018 10:02 IgnE wrote: does anyone here prefer the winter olympics to the summer olympics? I do. I like snowboarding, skiing(that's like "how many na's do I put in banana?"), bobsledding, hockey, and speed skating. Summer doesn't really do anything for me. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
The onus was on the Republican memo. It overran the DoJ and FISA courts to purport some misdoing. It failed in that purpose by any legal or even ethical standpoint. In fact, its assertions seem to have been completely misleading. Any action taken by Congress against the DoJ or FISA would require a rigorously substantiated claim, and the memo is the opposite of that. A counter-memo response isn't really necessary. It would be fair and democratic, from a public-affairs standpoint. So, it's good the Democrats made the "effort". But, water is wet, Republicans are shameless hypocrites, and Trump isn't going to release a Democrat statement that corrects Republican "records". Investigations don't work off talking-point memos. And that's something that's obviously going to be more apparent in due time, as the current indictments become convictions and more indictments are probably made. They can argue Carter Page's innocence (Jesus wept), while Trump's campaign-manager is convicted for Russian money-laundering. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On February 10 2018 10:58 Introvert wrote: But you a Democrat memo comes out. And it will be longer than the GOP one. It is fun though that you can just ignore that the FBI had complaints about this one too. The other memo did have edits they wanted, but didn't retract all names. There will be a Dem memo. No one is ignoring the FBI's complaints, this is a rebuttal memo and is necessary given what has already happened. I mean all it probably has is what Nunes has already stated, which is that the FISA judge was informed there was political backing to the Steele info. Not that your "Dems are being hypocritical about this memo" theory was coherent. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
I don't expect every DoJ official to be a dyed-in-the-wool patriot yearning for a lifetime of service, but I think for the #3 DoJ position, we should seek a little more fortitude and patriotism than that. I'd say good riddance, if I had any faith in Trump appointing anybody fit for the job at this point. But she should be publicly condemned for quitting for personal gain, and at such a tumultuous time. 9 months. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
Cue nbc shit coverage rant. They have affiliates everywhere to make it about locals. I can understand cali folk not giving a shit about Duluth bios but I do. A Stillwater girl is a chance at winning nortic metal. Thats interesting to me. I don't care so much about summer Olympics because regionalism. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On February 10 2018 11:48 Plansix wrote: I would not blame anyone for peacing the fuck out of the Justice Department at this point. It’s become abundantly clear that Trumps team is rotten and the Justice Department can’t do shit about. That is on congress. I see this, but it is a public-service position. So, yes, I want some self-sacrifice, damn it. I certainly hope Rosenstein is made of sterner stuff. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 10 2018 11:52 Leporello wrote: I see this, but it is a public-service position. I certainly hope Rosenstein is made of sterner stuff. Knowing a lot of public service folks, they need to have faith in what they are doing and not feel like their career could end at the whim of some orange clown. Staying can be viewed as approval, also. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On February 10 2018 11:55 Plansix wrote: Knowing a lot of public service folks, they need to have faith in what they are doing and not feel like their career could end at the whim of some orange clown. Staying can be viewed as approval, also. Oh, I'd feel a lot better about it if she weren't quitting for WalMart. Then her quitting could be seen as protest, or contempt. But now, it's just like... bye. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
In 100% of cases, NBC coverage is gutter tier trash and where possible I watch alternatives. The difficulty of finding those alternatives should shed some light on just how much I dislike NBC’s coverage. | ||
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semantics
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On February 10 2018 11:48 Plansix wrote: I would not blame anyone for peacing the fuck out of the Justice Department at this point. It’s become abundantly clear that Trumps team is rotten and the Justice Department can’t do shit about. That is on congress. Well the DOJ, FBI and congress are the three main areas that can hold the president accountable it seems like congress is not interested in doing that and will also spend their time to undercut the other two with the president. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
And I know the media and her associates are fawning. I'm not. Kind of disgusted. | ||
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