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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21957 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-09 21:08:46
February 09 2018 21:08 GMT
#197541
On February 10 2018 06:02 Plansix wrote:

At least they didn’t kneel.

Why should he stand Oo. Not everything is news...
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23486 Posts
February 09 2018 21:12 GMT
#197542
On February 10 2018 03:39 On_Slaught wrote:
Hmm. The fox news article link no longer works. Wonder if they took the article down?


Could be down for edit but I couldn't find it moved to a new url. They are sorta right in that the athletes will need to put up with a ridiculous amount of racism from coaches, teammates, media, and fans so there's that parallel.

Like many parts of our society the thinly veiled racism that kept mediocre white men at the top of industry, sport, and otherwise is being torn down and it makes mediocre white men nervous they won't be able to maintain their manufactured dominance.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 09 2018 21:17 GMT
#197543
On February 10 2018 06:08 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 06:02 Plansix wrote:

At least they didn’t kneel.

Why should he stand Oo. Not everything is news...

https://www.cbssports.com/olympics/news/2018-olympics-mike-pence-doesnt-stand-for-korea-skips-meal-with-north-koreans/

But the vice president, per reports from CBS News and the Associated Press, neither interacted with Jong nor stood to recognize the joint North and South Korea team that entered for the ceremony.

Other reports corroborated the suggestion that Pence and his wife, Karen, were the only people in the VIP press box not to stand in recognition of the Korean Olympic delegation, which marched united for the first time since 2007. And Voice of America later reported that Pence willingly opted to sit in the box, so as to be seen by North Korean officials, rather than simply sit with a delegation of only Team USA representatives.

Tonight @VP “could have sat with the US delegation and avoided the box but he chose not to...knowing the North Koreans would be seated behind him,” says a US official on Air Force Two. But Pence wanted to demonstrate that the “alliance was strong” by sitting with Moon and Abe.

— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) February 9, 2018

According to BBC, the vice president, who at one point said he might consider meeting with North Korean officials during his time in South Korea, also skipped an Olympic dinner, where he was "due to share a table with North Korea's ceremonial head of state Kim Yong-nam."


Because they are doing it on purpose.

https://www.apnews.com/51cf639e97a8485d960210550213d177

To take some aggressive stance against NK or maybe undercut any progress that SK could make during these games.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21957 Posts
February 09 2018 21:43 GMT
#197544
On February 10 2018 06:17 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 06:08 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 10 2018 06:02 Plansix wrote:

At least they didn’t kneel.

Why should he stand Oo. Not everything is news...

https://www.cbssports.com/olympics/news/2018-olympics-mike-pence-doesnt-stand-for-korea-skips-meal-with-north-koreans/

Show nested quote +
But the vice president, per reports from CBS News and the Associated Press, neither interacted with Jong nor stood to recognize the joint North and South Korea team that entered for the ceremony.

Other reports corroborated the suggestion that Pence and his wife, Karen, were the only people in the VIP press box not to stand in recognition of the Korean Olympic delegation, which marched united for the first time since 2007. And Voice of America later reported that Pence willingly opted to sit in the box, so as to be seen by North Korean officials, rather than simply sit with a delegation of only Team USA representatives.

Tonight @VP “could have sat with the US delegation and avoided the box but he chose not to...knowing the North Koreans would be seated behind him,” says a US official on Air Force Two. But Pence wanted to demonstrate that the “alliance was strong” by sitting with Moon and Abe.

— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) February 9, 2018

According to BBC, the vice president, who at one point said he might consider meeting with North Korean officials during his time in South Korea, also skipped an Olympic dinner, where he was "due to share a table with North Korea's ceremonial head of state Kim Yong-nam."


Because they are doing it on purpose.

https://www.apnews.com/51cf639e97a8485d960210550213d177

To take some aggressive stance against NK or maybe undercut any progress that SK could make during these games.

Sigh, this is the stadium bullshit (when he went to a game just so he could storm out when they knelt) all over again.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 09 2018 21:45 GMT
#197545
On February 10 2018 06:43 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 06:17 Plansix wrote:
On February 10 2018 06:08 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 10 2018 06:02 Plansix wrote:

At least they didn’t kneel.

Why should he stand Oo. Not everything is news...

https://www.cbssports.com/olympics/news/2018-olympics-mike-pence-doesnt-stand-for-korea-skips-meal-with-north-koreans/

But the vice president, per reports from CBS News and the Associated Press, neither interacted with Jong nor stood to recognize the joint North and South Korea team that entered for the ceremony.

Other reports corroborated the suggestion that Pence and his wife, Karen, were the only people in the VIP press box not to stand in recognition of the Korean Olympic delegation, which marched united for the first time since 2007. And Voice of America later reported that Pence willingly opted to sit in the box, so as to be seen by North Korean officials, rather than simply sit with a delegation of only Team USA representatives.

Tonight @VP “could have sat with the US delegation and avoided the box but he chose not to...knowing the North Koreans would be seated behind him,” says a US official on Air Force Two. But Pence wanted to demonstrate that the “alliance was strong” by sitting with Moon and Abe.

— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) February 9, 2018

According to BBC, the vice president, who at one point said he might consider meeting with North Korean officials during his time in South Korea, also skipped an Olympic dinner, where he was "due to share a table with North Korea's ceremonial head of state Kim Yong-nam."


Because they are doing it on purpose.

https://www.apnews.com/51cf639e97a8485d960210550213d177

To take some aggressive stance against NK or maybe undercut any progress that SK could make during these games.

Sigh, this is the stadium bullshit (when he went to a game just so he could storm out when they knelt) all over again.

It is like they learned diplomacy by watching Mean Girls three times.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23486 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-09 21:50:19
February 09 2018 21:48 GMT
#197546
On February 10 2018 06:45 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 06:43 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 10 2018 06:17 Plansix wrote:
On February 10 2018 06:08 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 10 2018 06:02 Plansix wrote:

At least they didn’t kneel.

Why should he stand Oo. Not everything is news...

https://www.cbssports.com/olympics/news/2018-olympics-mike-pence-doesnt-stand-for-korea-skips-meal-with-north-koreans/

But the vice president, per reports from CBS News and the Associated Press, neither interacted with Jong nor stood to recognize the joint North and South Korea team that entered for the ceremony.

Other reports corroborated the suggestion that Pence and his wife, Karen, were the only people in the VIP press box not to stand in recognition of the Korean Olympic delegation, which marched united for the first time since 2007. And Voice of America later reported that Pence willingly opted to sit in the box, so as to be seen by North Korean officials, rather than simply sit with a delegation of only Team USA representatives.

Tonight @VP “could have sat with the US delegation and avoided the box but he chose not to...knowing the North Koreans would be seated behind him,” says a US official on Air Force Two. But Pence wanted to demonstrate that the “alliance was strong” by sitting with Moon and Abe.

— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) February 9, 2018

According to BBC, the vice president, who at one point said he might consider meeting with North Korean officials during his time in South Korea, also skipped an Olympic dinner, where he was "due to share a table with North Korea's ceremonial head of state Kim Yong-nam."


Because they are doing it on purpose.

https://www.apnews.com/51cf639e97a8485d960210550213d177

To take some aggressive stance against NK or maybe undercut any progress that SK could make during these games.

Sigh, this is the stadium bullshit (when he went to a game just so he could storm out when they knelt) all over again.

It is like they learned diplomacy by watching Mean Girls three times.


Just hoping they understand that the "burn book" isn't literally raining fire on people you don't like.

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"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 09 2018 23:02 GMT
#197547
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21957 Posts
February 09 2018 23:07 GMT
#197548
On February 10 2018 08:02 Doodsmack wrote:
https://twitter.com/jesselehrich/status/962036761722417156

Man who has publicly admitted to sexually assaulting women defends other abusers of women.
No one is shocked.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
February 09 2018 23:30 GMT
#197549
On February 10 2018 08:07 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:02 Doodsmack wrote:
https://twitter.com/jesselehrich/status/962036761722417156

Man who has publicly admitted to sexually assaulting women defends other abusers of women.
No one is shocked.

Just the kind of thing that bears repeating though. This is the man who is supposed to unite us. Fox News told me so.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14047 Posts
February 10 2018 00:26 GMT
#197550
On February 10 2018 08:30 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 10 2018 08:02 Doodsmack wrote:
https://twitter.com/jesselehrich/status/962036761722417156

Man who has publicly admitted to sexually assaulting women defends other abusers of women.
No one is shocked.

Just the kind of thing that bears repeating though. This is the man who is supposed to unite us. Fox News told me so.

Its interesting to see how much you listen to and trust Fox news.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 10 2018 00:36 GMT
#197551
The fun part about the Obama and Trump eras has been being able to predict what Fox is saying without even watching. They are not very original.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
February 10 2018 00:48 GMT
#197552
On February 10 2018 09:26 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 08:30 NewSunshine wrote:
On February 10 2018 08:07 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 10 2018 08:02 Doodsmack wrote:
https://twitter.com/jesselehrich/status/962036761722417156

Man who has publicly admitted to sexually assaulting women defends other abusers of women.
No one is shocked.

Just the kind of thing that bears repeating though. This is the man who is supposed to unite us. Fox News told me so.

Its interesting to see how much you listen to and trust Fox news.

Were it not for family members who unfortunately swear by it, I would never see it or hear it on a day-to-day basis. I trust their stories about as much as their anchors can be trusted with a female coworker.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
February 10 2018 01:02 GMT
#197553
does anyone here prefer the winter olympics to the summer olympics?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 10 2018 01:04 GMT
#197554
On February 10 2018 10:02 IgnE wrote:
does anyone here prefer the winter olympics to the summer olympics?

I watch figure skating. Most everything else is a waste of time.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 10 2018 01:11 GMT
#197555
If the Democrats had any guts they would read it on the floor but they don't.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
February 10 2018 01:13 GMT
#197556


This is psycho shit.

This isn't Rob Porter. That was yesterday's news, apparently.
Big water
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24741 Posts
February 10 2018 01:14 GMT
#197557
Without knowing what is in the memo that is a very reckless suggestion {CC}StealthBlue. Despite apparent evidence to the contrary since the current administration moved in, premature release of classified information is actually a big deal and usually has real consequences. Also, what you suggested would give republicans ammunition to accuse their political opposition of criminal wrongdoing and they would actually be right.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 10 2018 01:15 GMT
#197558
On February 10 2018 10:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
If the Democrats had any guts they would read it on the floor but they don't.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/962130231325839361


The issue is already embarrassing enough I guess.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 10 2018 01:19 GMT
#197559
On February 10 2018 10:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
If the Democrats had any guts they would read it on the floor but they don't.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/962130231325839361

Whoever does that should also shoot themselve in the foot to make sure everyone is on the same page.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
February 10 2018 01:22 GMT
#197560
The beauty of this is that the Democratic memo can now be a mystery and a mystery is always more dangerous than a certainty because it can be anything you can surmise. The narrative now is going to be that the Democratic memo disproved the Republican memo and Trump buried it and they can't rebut that.
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