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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 03 2017 19:41 GMT
#178261
The high road is not the path for the Democrats. The US is not going to have a collective epiphany and stop voting for the GOP, even if everyone thought that was what happened during the 2008 election. They have to get in there and get a little pissed off. The public is pissed and does not want to be told everything is all right. They want to be told everything sucks and this is how we plan on fixing it. But the last thing the public wants is another decade of zero action on important issues.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 03 2017 19:44 GMT
#178262
On October 04 2017 04:41 RealityIsKing wrote:
#FakeNews

Trump was complimenting on PR's ability to quickly mobilize and control the catastrophe.

Nope, that is real news. That is a direct quote. Trump likes to remind the island of ungrateful people of how much the US is going to spend on them. With all his racially charges language that he breaks out whenever he is criticized for being the shitty president he is.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-03 19:45:50
October 03 2017 19:45 GMT
#178263
On October 04 2017 04:41 RealityIsKing wrote:
#FakeNews

Trump was complimenting on PR's ability to quickly mobilize and control the catastrophe.

Yes and no.
Correction: no an yes is more appropriate
passive quaranstream fan
RealityIsKing
Profile Joined August 2016
613 Posts
October 03 2017 19:49 GMT
#178264
On October 04 2017 04:44 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2017 04:41 RealityIsKing wrote:
#FakeNews

Trump was complimenting on PR's ability to quickly mobilize and control the catastrophe.

Nope, that is real news. That is a direct quote. Trump likes to remind the island of ungrateful people of how much the US is going to spend on them. With all his racially charges language that he breaks out whenever he is criticized for being the shitty president he is.


You didn't even watch the clip.

He didn't say that this wasn't a tragic event.

You are spreading misinformation for the sake of being divisive.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 03 2017 19:53 GMT
#178265
On October 04 2017 04:49 RealityIsKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2017 04:44 Plansix wrote:
On October 04 2017 04:41 RealityIsKing wrote:
#FakeNews

Trump was complimenting on PR's ability to quickly mobilize and control the catastrophe.

Nope, that is real news. That is a direct quote. Trump likes to remind the island of ungrateful people of how much the US is going to spend on them. With all his racially charges language that he breaks out whenever he is criticized for being the shitty president he is.


You didn't even watch the clip.

He didn't say that this wasn't a tragic event.

You are spreading misinformation for the sake of being divisive.

I listened to the whole thing on NPR. Don’t be basic.

Trump says a lot of things he doesn’t mean. Don’t be dumb.

Divisive President breeds divisive citizens. Trump reaps what he sows.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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RealityIsKing
Profile Joined August 2016
613 Posts
October 03 2017 20:04 GMT
#178266
On October 04 2017 04:53 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2017 04:49 RealityIsKing wrote:
On October 04 2017 04:44 Plansix wrote:
On October 04 2017 04:41 RealityIsKing wrote:
#FakeNews

Trump was complimenting on PR's ability to quickly mobilize and control the catastrophe.

Nope, that is real news. That is a direct quote. Trump likes to remind the island of ungrateful people of how much the US is going to spend on them. With all his racially charges language that he breaks out whenever he is criticized for being the shitty president he is.


You didn't even watch the clip.

He didn't say that this wasn't a tragic event.

You are spreading misinformation for the sake of being divisive.

I listened to the whole thing on NPR. Don’t be basic.

Trump says a lot of things he doesn’t mean. Don’t be dumb.

Divisive President breeds divisive citizens. Trump reaps what he sows.


Well in this particular case, he didn't say anything racially charged and was clearly complimenting on the people in the ground that was taking care of PR.

So don't be dumb and spread lies.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9754 Posts
October 03 2017 20:06 GMT
#178267
'don't spread lies'
*defends Trump - The biggest liar of all time*
'don't spread lies.'
RIP Meatloaf <3
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 03 2017 20:21 GMT
#178268
Apparently Devos was at Harvard last night for a pretty tame conference. But at one point she said charter schools were treated unfairly, because public schools in Detroit get bad test scores and are never shut down. Apparently in her world if a public school fails in a city that is going bankrupty, poor people just don’t get educated.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-03 20:38:24
October 03 2017 20:37 GMT
#178269
When I first heard that Trump soundbite I didn't notice a problem. IANA language expert but I wonder if some of this is in part because that use of "real" is a northeastern thing. That sort of language has happened a lot in my life and it's always been meant commiseratingly as opposed to dismissively.

Like, "Man, that bites, but if you look at a real mess of a breakup like mine you're handling this way better than I ever did." That kind of thing, the "real" is inclusive, an indication of similarity/kinship/comparability as opposed to being exclusive.

I mean Trump is a human wasteland of a President who has many other Puetro Rico-related failures to condemn but this particular issue seems entirely innocuous.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 03 2017 20:39 GMT
#178270
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
October 03 2017 20:40 GMT
#178271
On October 04 2017 05:37 Seuss wrote:
When I first heard that Trump soundbite I didn't notice a problem. IANA language expert but I wonder if some of this is in part because that use of "real" is a northeastern thing. That sort of language has happened a lot in my life and it's always been meant commiseratingly as opposed to dismissively.

Like, "Man, that bites, but if you look at a real mess of a breakup like mine you're handling this way better than I ever did." That kind of thing, the "real" is inclusive, an indication of similarity/kinship/comparability as opposed to being exclusive.

I mean Trump is a human wasteland of a President who has many other Puetro Rico-related failures to condemn but this particular issue seems entirely innocuous.


I wouldn't call it entirely innocuous, but yeah "real" as "very big" does take some of the bite out of it a bit as a normal person thing.

But for a politician, being held to the fire for even small sound bites like this is the norm more than exception, it's really only like Trump who hasn't been held to this sort of standard for his word mincing.
Logo
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 03 2017 20:55 GMT
#178272


The ruling is finally in, retweets are endorsements.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
October 03 2017 21:00 GMT
#178273
On October 04 2017 04:02 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2017 03:49 ZapRoffo wrote:
On October 04 2017 03:26 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:




This is seriously next level embarrassing.

Also, they haven't updated the death toll in days and barely have contact with some parts of the island. All good though, not a real catastrophe.

Trump: "I'm helping. No president before me has ever helped this much before"

He's so out of touch with the pain and suffering of people that it hurts. Literally not an empathetic bone in his body.

It wouldn't be out of place if "let them eat cake" left his mouth, at this point.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10825 Posts
October 03 2017 21:02 GMT
#178274
Where are Danglars, xDaunt and RealityKing in their presidents biggest hour?


Ah.. I gues they wait until its safe to talk about football players not taking the flag and a song seriously enough.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 03 2017 21:09 GMT
#178275
On October 04 2017 05:40 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2017 05:37 Seuss wrote:
When I first heard that Trump soundbite I didn't notice a problem. IANA language expert but I wonder if some of this is in part because that use of "real" is a northeastern thing. That sort of language has happened a lot in my life and it's always been meant commiseratingly as opposed to dismissively.

Like, "Man, that bites, but if you look at a real mess of a breakup like mine you're handling this way better than I ever did." That kind of thing, the "real" is inclusive, an indication of similarity/kinship/comparability as opposed to being exclusive.

I mean Trump is a human wasteland of a President who has many other Puetro Rico-related failures to condemn but this particular issue seems entirely innocuous.


I wouldn't call it entirely innocuous, but yeah "real" as "very big" does take some of the bite out of it a bit as a normal person thing.

But for a politician, being held to the fire for even small sound bites like this is the norm more than exception, it's really only like Trump who hasn't been held to this sort of standard for his word mincing.


Yeah, if this was any of the last three Presidents this would have been milked for a week's worth of "news".

  • Monday: President says Disaster not "real"
  • Tuesday: Congress reacts to fallout from President's comments on Disaster
  • Wednesday: President approval down after comments on Disaster.
  • Thursday: Disaster haunts President during other Presidential duty
  • Friday: Is Disaster a turning point for the President after controversial remarks that were totally innocuous but we have nothing better to fill time except a heartwarming story about a girl who got lost and ended up saving kittens from a run down shack
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 03 2017 21:12 GMT
#178276


Just wow. It is amazing he makes it out of bed in the morning.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-03 21:18:57
October 03 2017 21:17 GMT
#178277
If you want to talk fake news, the "fact" that only 16 people have died as a result of the hurricane is bullshit:

About the underreporting of deaths, and how far behind the system is in dealing with bodies and deaths in PR.

https://ctmirror.org/2017/10/02/marias-dead-in-puerto-rico-are-underreported/
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
October 03 2017 21:35 GMT
#178278
On October 04 2017 06:12 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/dave_brown24/status/915295655882616834

Just wow. It is amazing he makes it out of bed in the morning.

found it, it's pretty funny



But all in all I actually kind of agree that while his actual phrasing is terrible, especially when you read it, he didn't really want to say malicious things this time and we should spend our outrage on some of the many other things he screwed up
Neosteel Enthusiast
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 03 2017 21:39 GMT
#178279
Personally, I'm going to continue to mock his shitty abuse of the English language. Bush didn't get a break when he mangled the spoken word, Trump doesn't get one either. And he is a conman, who says anything to get what he wants. Who knows what is going through his mind, beyond not really wanting to deal with this crisis.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10825 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-03 21:58:39
October 03 2017 21:58 GMT
#178280
I really wonder, has no one told him how stupid he looks in that jacked?
I mean.. everyone around him looks good/decent but he looks just bad, horribly bad.
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