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On October 04 2017 08:15 Chewbacca. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 07:36 KwarK wrote:
11/10 is probably overselling it Danglars. The Trump bar is different, he once said that Mexicans living in the United States are rapists. A 11/10 Obama foot in mouth is Trump expressing himself with unheard of eloquence. He once said that some Mexicans living in the United States are rapists. Which I believe is demonstrably true.
No, that's not what he said. He said that the Mexicans coming to live in the US were rapists and drug dealers.
Somehow you heard "statistically speaking there is likely to be greater than zero rapists in that group" but that isn't what he said.
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On October 04 2017 09:43 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 08:15 Chewbacca. wrote:On October 04 2017 07:36 KwarK wrote:
11/10 is probably overselling it Danglars. The Trump bar is different, he once said that Mexicans living in the United States are rapists. A 11/10 Obama foot in mouth is Trump expressing himself with unheard of eloquence. He once said that some Mexicans living in the United States are rapists. Which I believe is demonstrably true. No, that's not what he said. He said that the Mexicans coming to live in the US were rapists and drug dealers.
And some he assumed might be good people.
He wasn't 100% sure that there were any good people from mexico coming over.
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On October 04 2017 08:37 brian wrote:
and am i reading that correctly that one out of every 10,000 people die via gun?
1 out of 10k per year, yes.
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This guy spent a lot of money on all that hardware. I mean with half a million dollars there are a lot of ways a determined person can do a lot of harm to a lot of people... but from what I can tell we still have no idea why he did it.
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On October 04 2017 10:24 micronesia wrote:
This guy spent a lot of money on all that hardware. I mean with half a million dollars there are a lot of ways a determined person can do a lot of harm to a lot of people... but from what I can tell we still have no idea why he did it.
Serious answer: he wanted to experience getting up to a 4 star rampage. This was GTA in real life.
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And here I thought you'd need a tank to get a 4 star rampage. Funnily enough, that one dude, who hijacked a real tank and crashed it on the free way - after a 3 hour chase - didn't harm or kill anyone, afaik. But I think they shot him anyways...
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I am going to leave this primer on bump stocks here for later when the details are debated. No, the Vegas shooter guy did not have 'automatic' weapons in the meaning of the firearms control act of 1934, but if you check the spoilered video, you will see that the fine legal distinction between a federally registered automatic weapon and a bump-stocked new AR is of little difference when you are on the firing end of the barrel. Many of the victims thought they were under automatic fire.
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On October 04 2017 09:33 Mohdoo wrote:
This whole Puerto Rico ordeal is such a great example of GOP perspectives on struggling brown people being "Well, have you tried being less shitty? I'll give you a little help, but I am just so bothered by how shitty you are"
The more it’s generalized from Trump to the GOP, the more Republicans learn it’s not about they’re ability/inability to criticize Trump—it’s actually a critique of them.
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On October 04 2017 11:00 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 09:33 Mohdoo wrote:
This whole Puerto Rico ordeal is such a great example of GOP perspectives on struggling brown people being "Well, have you tried being less shitty? I'll give you a little help, but I am just so bothered by how shitty you are" The more it’s generalized from Trump to the GOP, the more Republicans learn it’s not about they’re ability/inability to criticize Trump—it’s actually a critique of them.
The issues with black America have been brought up by both you and xdaunt during discussions of inequality. If I'm remembering you wrong, forgive me. But I am positive I've heard it out of mr daunt
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I'm happy to state the obvious: Puerto Rico is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society.
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I'm happy to state the obvious: The United States is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society.
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On October 04 2017 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
I'm happy to state the obvious: The United States is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society.
You don't have to stay here if you don't like it.
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On October 04 2017 08:50 Broetchenholer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 08:34 RealityIsKing wrote:Okay I wasn't sure whether for more gun control or not before but this chart tells me something ![[image loading]](https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-340ee0b240c4612d7c016677bedac23b) If you want to go by deaths by firearm per 100k people, just put up the stats of european countries next to those of the US. The amazing thing you will see is that 1) Pretty much every country had more violent crime in the 80s and 90s and the crime rate is since then steadily declining. It's a global trend, the world has become more safe. 2) The gun violence crime rate is much smaller in european countries. But i know, the US are totally different and can't be compared. Your crime is down and only due to a lack of gun control.
Comparing between countries is not the smartest idea. There are a million different variables. If you want a better comparison how about between the states here? In fact, most of the recent data show no correlation or negligible at best:
https://mises.org/blog/theres-no-correlation-between-gun-ownership-mass-shootings-and-murder-rates
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On October 04 2017 12:22 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
I'm happy to state the obvious: The United States is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society. You don't have to stay here if you don't like it.
You don't have to stay here if you can't take people being able to say stuff like that.
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On October 04 2017 12:22 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
I'm happy to state the obvious: The United States is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society. You don't have to stay here if you don't like it.
We have to tell the truth if we want the country to improve. And the truth is that we are a trash nation drunk on the idea we are great.
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On October 04 2017 12:25 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 12:22 RealityIsKing wrote:On October 04 2017 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
I'm happy to state the obvious: The United States is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society. You don't have to stay here if you don't like it. We have to tell the truth if we want the country to improve. And the truth is that we are a trash nation drunk on the idea we are great.
That's why we have to MAGA.
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On October 04 2017 12:22 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
I'm happy to state the obvious: The United States is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society. You don't have to stay here if you don't like it.
You see someone critique the country and immediately say they can leave?
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On October 04 2017 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
I'm happy to state the obvious: The United States is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society.
On October 04 2017 12:19 xDaunt wrote:
I'm happy to state the obvious: Puerto Rico is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society.
I'm happy to state the obvious here, Puerto Rico is part of the US, they are citizens, they are part of our military, they do in fact pay some federal taxes and do infact get some federal benefits. The top of their bureaucracy is in fact Trump and the US congress help draft their current legal status. They aren't a separate country just one of the US territories the super 2nd class citizens that the US doesn't like to talk about because of it's awkward holdovers of WWII and the cold war.
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On October 04 2017 12:29 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2017 12:25 Plansix wrote:On October 04 2017 12:22 RealityIsKing wrote:On October 04 2017 12:20 Gahlo wrote:
I'm happy to state the obvious: The United States is not exactly a paragon of well-run, civilized, and industrious society. You don't have to stay here if you don't like it. We have to tell the truth if we want the country to improve. And the truth is that we are a trash nation drunk on the idea we are great. That's why we have to MAGA.
Yeah, well everyone gets conned by billionaires selling bullshit at least once. Don't feel bad.
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