EPTOn October 04 2017 12:31 Mohdoo wrote:
You see someone critique the country and immediately say they can leave?
You see someone critique the country and immediately say they can leave?
They have the right.
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RealityIsKing
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They have the right. | ||
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ChristianS
United States3304 Posts
Do you see the conflict between "love it or leave it" and "MAGA?" Does even the faintest hint of cognitive dissonance register for you as you transition straight from one to the other? | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
It has a considerably larger population than many states and it's not like it's much worse off than say, Mississippi in many regards. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On October 04 2017 11:38 Mohdoo wrote: The issues with black America have been brought up by both you and xdaunt during discussions of inequality. If I'm remembering you wrong, forgive me. But I am positive I've heard it out of mr daunt I say it as a a reminder when people forget these charges are leveled at Republicans/conservatives instead of just at Trump. It’s not Trump you accused of telling brown people to be less shitty, it’s GOP perspectives. So when we recognize the content and inaccuracy of the critique, we’re reminded that it’s really not about Trump so much, it’s just blanket attacks on GOP members and how they think. Don’t come crying to me after you go through these efforts to push everybody in the corner with Trump and then want to bring them over to your coalition. | ||
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ChristianS
United States3304 Posts
On October 04 2017 12:53 Danglars wrote: I say it as a a reminder when people forget these charges are leveled at Republicans/conservatives instead of just at Trump. It’s not Trump you accused of telling brown people to be less shitty, it’s GOP perspectives. So when we recognize the content and inaccuracy of the critique, we’re reminded that it’s really not about Trump so much, it’s just blanket attacks on GOP members and how they think. Don’t come crying to me after you go through these efforts to push everybody in the corner with Trump and then want to bring them over to your coalition. I don't think any Dems are losing too much sleep over bringing you or xDaunt into their coalition. Honestly, the whole line of "you should think about this if you want to convince people" doesn't make sense to me anyway. This is a politics thread, none of us are political operatives for the DNC or RNC (to my knowledge, anyway). I've never felt it was my job to convince you of anything, Danglars, and I sincerely hope you've not wasted too much effort to convert me to... whatever your allegiance is these days (is anti-anti-Trumper still a fair label?). | ||
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Wegandi
United States2455 Posts
On October 04 2017 12:48 Nevuk wrote: I mean this is part of why PR probably should've gone for statehood at some point in the past. It's not like anyone expected the federal government to basically ignore them and tell them to fuck off, but that was always the worst case scenario if there was a disaster there without strong motives for the top parts of the US government to get involved. It has a considerably larger population than many states and it's not like it's much worse off than say, Mississippi in many regards. Well PR is insolvent, while MS is solvent. MS GDP PPP is also around 41k, where PR is 35k. Honestly, most Americans give MS shit (not entirely undeserved), but MS is still richer than England lmao. https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2016/03/07/still-true-even-mississippi-is-richer-than-britain/#602b2301654f | ||
KwarK
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Wegandi
United States2455 Posts
On October 04 2017 13:04 KwarK wrote: Have you been to England Wegandi? I'm ready for whatever non-sequitur you'll unfurl. I may not respond depending on how I feel. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On October 04 2017 13:02 Wegandi wrote: Well PR is insolvent, while MS is solvent. MS GDP PPP is also around 41k, where PR is 35k. Honestly, most Americans give MS shit (not entirely undeserved), but MS is still richer than England lmao. https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2016/03/07/still-true-even-mississippi-is-richer-than-britain/#602b2301654f Yeah, aside from the solvency thing. But like a decade or two ago that wasn't the case, and it's not like it would be realistic for PR to have become a state after 2010 anyways. I was surprised when I looked up PR gdp, it's actually fairly noteworthy. | ||
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KwarK
United States44442 Posts
On October 04 2017 13:06 Wegandi wrote: I'm ready for whatever non-sequitur you'll unfurl. I may not respond depending on how I feel. It's not actually poorer than Mississippi. You just read that it was. | ||
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Wegandi
United States2455 Posts
On October 04 2017 13:10 KwarK wrote: It's not actually poorer than Mississippi. You just read that it was. Feel free to write why you think GDP PPP / GVA is a bad economic indicator. (Most EU countries would be in the bottom 15 percentile of economic PPP compared to US states - those wonderfully socially democratic utopias) | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
also, Americans clock in a lot more working hours per year. Wikipedia gives 1800 hours annually for the US, 1370 for Germany, 1450 for France, 1670 for the UK. That's actually more than two and half months annually of additional work, how do you do this? I'd probably jump off a bridge. | ||
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Nevuk
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farvacola
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RenSC2
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RvB
Netherlands6326 Posts
You guys are ridiculous. At least read the article first before you critique him. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On October 04 2017 13:53 RvB wrote: The article uses GDp PPP per capita. By that metric China is way below the US. You guys are ridiculous. At least read the article first before you critique him. Forbes redirects me so I can't read its articles. And when I looked elsewhere, China is well ahead of the IS by GDP PPP (not per capita, but I missed that qualifier). ![[image loading]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/e3a08d3c4f08a34be3b998f800f86cbb.png) | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6326 Posts
GDP per Capita. The US GDP ppp per capita is more than 3 times higher than China's. China's total gdp ppp is only higher because they're with more than a billion people. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Furikawari
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On October 04 2017 13:12 Wegandi wrote: Feel free to write why you think GDP PPP / GVA is a bad economic indicator. (Most EU countries would be in the bottom 15 percentile of economic PPP compared to US states - those wonderfully socially democratic utopias) Wow, seen from here you can keep your wonderful land of """freedom""", especially the Trump/racism/guns parts that seem so important these days. I'll stay in my "poor" country". | ||
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