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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2017 16:00 GMT
#162961
McCain is the #1 Republican I would pick to break ranks and start going after Trump. And that we before brain cancer. It is sort of a question of how quickly he does it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 21 2017 16:00 GMT
#162962
Trump pardoning himself and/or everyone involved in the scandal would be a disaster. The only action more damaging to American democracy available to Trump would be launching nukes.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
July 21 2017 16:06 GMT
#162963
On July 22 2017 00:24 Mohdoo wrote:
It is pretty damn wild that we are at a point of even talking about pardoning.

Another reminder that many people in this thread didn't even believe Russia tried to help Trump.

Russia tried to undermine American trust in their institutions. It's very easy to show Clinton was the favorite and everything hurting her election hurt America. Russia's in it for Russia. It's still astounding to me that people I'd otherwise think are rational observers need sinister collusion conspiracies to go one step beyond the simple truth.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44187 Posts
July 21 2017 16:10 GMT
#162964
On July 22 2017 01:06 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2017 00:24 Mohdoo wrote:
It is pretty damn wild that we are at a point of even talking about pardoning.

Another reminder that many people in this thread didn't even believe Russia tried to help Trump.

Russia tried to undermine American trust in their institutions. It's very easy to show Clinton was the favorite and everything hurting her election hurt America. Russia's in it for Russia. It's still astounding to me that people I'd otherwise think are rational observers need sinister collusion conspiracies to go one step beyond the simple truth.

Care to explain why the Republicans took such a weak stance on Russian sanctions, the annexation and invasion of parts of Ukraine, and ceding Syria to Russia? Because it seems a whole lot like Russia is getting more than chaos, and would be getting even more were it not for the Democrats holding them accountable. The current administration has worked tirelessly to avoid conflict with Russian interests.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-21 16:15:09
July 21 2017 16:10 GMT
#162965
Funny. That was the same reaction I had when xDaunt thought the Seth Rich story was meaningful news or needed special investigation.

What would you need to believe team Trump directly worked with the Russian government to gain an advantage in the 2016 elections, Danglars? Did Trump Jr.'s own admission that he wanted to meet to gain "oppo research" not change your needle on this at all? With a group of people this inept, it's hard for me to believe they didn't cross a line somewhere.

Or have the goalposts now moved to semantics of the definition of collusion for you?
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-21 16:16:21
July 21 2017 16:15 GMT
#162966
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/us/politics/sean-spicer-resigns-as-white-house-press-secretary.html

WASHINGTON — Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, resigned on Friday morning, telling President Trump he vehemently disagreed with the appointment of the New York financier Anthony Scaramucci as communications director.

Mr. Trump offered Mr. Scaramucci the job at 10 a.m. The president requested that Mr. Spicer stay on, but Mr. Spicer told Mr. Trump that he believed the appointment was a major mistake, according to a person with direct knowledge of the exchange.

Spicer has left the building
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-21 16:16:50
July 21 2017 16:15 GMT
#162967
Sean Spicer Resigns as White House Press Secretary


WASHINGTON — Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, resigned on Friday morning, telling President Trump he vehemently disagreed with the appointment of the New York financier Anthony Scaramucci as communications director.

Mr. Trump offered Mr. Scaramucci the job at 10 a.m. The president requested that Mr. Spicer stay on, but Mr. Spicer told Mr. Trump that he believed the appointment was a major mistake, according to a person with direct knowledge of the exchange.


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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-21 16:18:57
July 21 2017 16:18 GMT
#162968
Real question: How long till Spicer talks to the press about the nightmare that was working in that White House?

Edit: That gif has so many frames.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11921 Posts
July 21 2017 16:19 GMT
#162969
So who is that Scaramucci guy, that Sean Spicer thinks he is bad for the White House? That must be a whole new level of shitty if even Spicer can't deal with him.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
July 21 2017 16:20 GMT
#162970
I don't know much about him, but the fact that his name fits nicely in Bohemian Rhapsody rhymes seems awfully suspicious.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2017 16:22 GMT
#162971
On July 22 2017 01:19 Simberto wrote:
So who is that Scaramucci guy, that Sean Spicer thinks he is bad for the White House? That must be a whole new level of shitty if even Spicer can't deal with him.

From all I can dig up on him, he seems to be a rich dude that defended Trump, gave the Trump camp money and has zero experience in public service or communications.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
July 21 2017 16:23 GMT
#162972
On July 22 2017 01:22 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2017 01:19 Simberto wrote:
So who is that Scaramucci guy, that Sean Spicer thinks he is bad for the White House? That must be a whole new level of shitty if even Spicer can't deal with him.

From all I can dig up on him, he seems to be a rich dude that defended Trump, gave the Trump camp money and has zero experience in public service or communications.


That's ok the Trump administration engages in neither of those things.
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TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
July 21 2017 16:27 GMT
#162973
Scaramucci is a hedge fund guy. He's very anti-regulation of wall street. He worked at Neuberger Berman before it was sold to Lehman, then for Goldman Sachs. He has a stake in his own hedge fund company now, which was supposedly being sold to a chinese investor (there's some question about whether that deal will go through due to the crackdown by Chinese govt. on capital leaving the country). everyone assumed he'd be getting a high profile job in the Trump admin. since he was a big contributor.
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
July 21 2017 16:31 GMT
#162974
On July 22 2017 01:20 farvacola wrote:
I don't know much about him, but the fact that his name fits nicely in Bohemian Rhapsody rhymes seems awfully suspicious.

If he can do the fandango, he's probably overqualified for a PR position.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 21 2017 16:31 GMT
#162975
On July 22 2017 01:23 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2017 01:22 Plansix wrote:
On July 22 2017 01:19 Simberto wrote:
So who is that Scaramucci guy, that Sean Spicer thinks he is bad for the White House? That must be a whole new level of shitty if even Spicer can't deal with him.

From all I can dig up on him, he seems to be a rich dude that defended Trump, gave the Trump camp money and has zero experience in public service or communications.


That's ok the Trump administration engages in neither of those things.

It is all about hiring the best people*.

* Of the people that are willing to join the bag of flaming dog poop that is the Trump White House
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11921 Posts
July 21 2017 16:32 GMT
#162976
On July 22 2017 01:27 TheFish7 wrote:
Scaramucci is a hedge fund guy. He's very anti-regulation of wall street. He worked at Neuberger Berman before it was sold to Lehman, then for Goldman Sachs. He has a stake in his own hedge fund company now, which was supposedly being sold to a chinese investor (there's some question about whether that deal will go through due to the crackdown by Chinese govt. on capital leaving the country). everyone assumed he'd be getting a high profile job in the Trump admin. since he was a big contributor.


So he is an incompetent guy with conflicts of interest, but that doesn't explain why he is the guy that Spicer really couldn't deal with, the Trump admin has a lot of these people.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-21 16:34:16
July 21 2017 16:33 GMT
#162977
He's also a tremendous alpha dog, who will bark at trump's enemies. bark bark bark.

He once asked Obama when he will stop "hitting wall street like a pinada"

not sure about spicer's objections.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-21 16:34:49
July 21 2017 16:33 GMT
#162978
On July 22 2017 01:15 IyMoon wrote:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/us/politics/sean-spicer-resigns-as-white-house-press-secretary.html

WASHINGTON — Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, resigned on Friday morning, telling President Trump he vehemently disagreed with the appointment of the New York financier Anthony Scaramucci as communications director.

Mr. Trump offered Mr. Scaramucci the job at 10 a.m. The president requested that Mr. Spicer stay on, but Mr. Spicer told Mr. Trump that he believed the appointment was a major mistake, according to a person with direct knowledge of the exchange.

Spicer has left the building

First the lawyers, now Spicey. Rats are leaving the ship fast now
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Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
July 21 2017 16:36 GMT
#162979
On July 22 2017 01:32 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2017 01:27 TheFish7 wrote:
Scaramucci is a hedge fund guy. He's very anti-regulation of wall street. He worked at Neuberger Berman before it was sold to Lehman, then for Goldman Sachs. He has a stake in his own hedge fund company now, which was supposedly being sold to a chinese investor (there's some question about whether that deal will go through due to the crackdown by Chinese govt. on capital leaving the country). everyone assumed he'd be getting a high profile job in the Trump admin. since he was a big contributor.


So he is an incompetent guy with conflicts of interest, but that doesn't explain why he is the guy that Spicer really couldn't deal with, the Trump admin has a lot of these people.


Because Trump gave him Spicer's job and wouldn't let Spicer speak on camera anymore?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46204 Posts
July 21 2017 16:37 GMT
#162980
Sean Spicer leaving is pretty big, but I'm really looking forward to the point in time when Ivanka resigns.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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