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A transgender man filed a complaint with the Seattle Office for Civil Rights on Monday afternoon against the Seattle Public Library for refusing to allow him to use the only private restroom in its downtown building, which is reserved for families.
After Ryan “Comet” Alley refused to stop filming his encounter this past Wednesday with a library security officer, he was asked to leave. When he didn’t, the officer banned him from the library for three days. Alley posted the video to Facebook, attracting thousands of views.
Danni Askini, executive director of the Gender Justice League, said she thinks the library is out of compliance with the city’s all-gender restroom ordinance.
The ordinance requires any single-stall restroom in a public place to be accessible to all people, regardless of their gender identity.
Even though the library has bathrooms labeled for men and women, library spokeswoman Andra Addison said they are all gender-neutral.
Alley, who wrote in his Facebook post that he is disabled, told library staff he didn’t feel safe using bathrooms with any gender label. He didn’t say why.
The restroom Alley wanted to use was off-limits, Addison said, because he didn’t have a child with him. That restroom is in the Central Library’s children’s section.
Seattle Times
We'll see if activists stop at family restrooms in the children's section.
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On June 13 2017 12:09 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +A transgender man filed a complaint with the Seattle Office for Civil Rights on Monday afternoon against the Seattle Public Library for refusing to allow him to use the only private restroom in its downtown building, which is reserved for families.
After Ryan “Comet” Alley refused to stop filming his encounter this past Wednesday with a library security officer, he was asked to leave. When he didn’t, the officer banned him from the library for three days. Alley posted the video to Facebook, attracting thousands of views.
Danni Askini, executive director of the Gender Justice League, said she thinks the library is out of compliance with the city’s all-gender restroom ordinance.
The ordinance requires any single-stall restroom in a public place to be accessible to all people, regardless of their gender identity.
Even though the library has bathrooms labeled for men and women, library spokeswoman Andra Addison said they are all gender-neutral.
Alley, who wrote in his Facebook post that he is disabled, told library staff he didn’t feel safe using bathrooms with any gender label. He didn’t say why.
The restroom Alley wanted to use was off-limits, Addison said, because he didn’t have a child with him. That restroom is in the Central Library’s children’s section. Seattle TimesWe'll see if activists stop at family restrooms in the children's section.
LMAO
Didn't feel safe using a bathroom with a gender label. Yeah, I'm all for doing the best we can for people in a shitty position, but this person went way off the deep end.
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On June 13 2017 11:57 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2017 11:40 Danglars wrote:On June 13 2017 10:23 LegalLord wrote:Trump needs to turn his presidency around by doing what we elected him to do. Not play the Russia game and get into Twitter spats, but rework our FP, get rid of NAFTA, make those Obama-era European sycophants piss off, and make life better for the disenfranchised rural folk who voted him in. A good job doesn't start or end with Twitter wars or Russia investigations. "What we elected him to do?" I thought you were one of those voting not to elect him? I take the Bernie Sanders approach: we're stuck with him, we didn't want him, but if he's serious about all the FP/trade/infrastructure things he promised, then in that he has my support. If he does stupid things forever, then fuck that.
I elected him for SCOTUS, Wall, and Repeal. We're a third of the way there, with cause for concern in the final two. And just to recap, I was worried he'd nominate a squish for the Supreme Court in true liberal Republican manner, but he stuck to his list. Difference being, I not only support him in those big campaign promises, but I also voted for him in November. Paris agreement and media antagonism are just free bonuses, just like a tax cut and regulation cutting would be. Of course he's awful and all on twitter, messaging, and undercutting his agenda, but he can still earn that C+ if he manages results in the chaos.
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On June 13 2017 12:18 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2017 11:57 LegalLord wrote:On June 13 2017 11:40 Danglars wrote:On June 13 2017 10:23 LegalLord wrote:Trump needs to turn his presidency around by doing what we elected him to do. Not play the Russia game and get into Twitter spats, but rework our FP, get rid of NAFTA, make those Obama-era European sycophants piss off, and make life better for the disenfranchised rural folk who voted him in. A good job doesn't start or end with Twitter wars or Russia investigations. "What we elected him to do?" I thought you were one of those voting not to elect him? I take the Bernie Sanders approach: we're stuck with him, we didn't want him, but if he's serious about all the FP/trade/infrastructure things he promised, then in that he has my support. If he does stupid things forever, then fuck that. I elected him for SCOTUS, Wall, and Repeal. We're a third of the way there, with cause for concern in the final two. And just to recap, I was worried he'd nominate a squish for the Supreme Court in true liberal Republican manner, but he stuck to his list. Difference being, I not only support him in those big campaign promises, but I also voted for him in November. Paris agreement and media antagonism are just free bonuses, just like a tax cut and regulation cutting would be. Of course he's awful and all on twitter, messaging, and undercutting his agenda, but he can still earn that C+ if he manages results in the chaos.
You seriously elected him to spend 40B dollars on a wall (plus annual maintenance of another 1-3B) that will likely do absolutely nothing to stop any drugs whatsoever from coming across the boarder. Ignoring the Rio Grande problem and the private property problem and the mountain problem and the litany of problems that make the wall impractical just from a cost perspective its a giant waste of money. At least the infamous bridge to nowhere was going to be useful to someone somewhere.
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On June 13 2017 12:09 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +A transgender man filed a complaint with the Seattle Office for Civil Rights on Monday afternoon against the Seattle Public Library for refusing to allow him to use the only private restroom in its downtown building, which is reserved for families.
After Ryan “Comet” Alley refused to stop filming his encounter this past Wednesday with a library security officer, he was asked to leave. When he didn’t, the officer banned him from the library for three days. Alley posted the video to Facebook, attracting thousands of views.
Danni Askini, executive director of the Gender Justice League, said she thinks the library is out of compliance with the city’s all-gender restroom ordinance.
The ordinance requires any single-stall restroom in a public place to be accessible to all people, regardless of their gender identity.
Even though the library has bathrooms labeled for men and women, library spokeswoman Andra Addison said they are all gender-neutral.
Alley, who wrote in his Facebook post that he is disabled, told library staff he didn’t feel safe using bathrooms with any gender label. He didn’t say why.
The restroom Alley wanted to use was off-limits, Addison said, because he didn’t have a child with him. That restroom is in the Central Library’s children’s section. Seattle TimesWe'll see if activists stop at family restrooms in the children's section.
To be somewhat fair it's a single-stall restroom. In general gender labels on single-stall restrooms are an abomination that breeds inefficiency for no reason whatsoever (beyond randomly making it more of a pain for whichever group predominates at a given time to pee).
Family labeling is useful to ensure there's always one available to change, though I've honestly never heard of family restrooms that actively bar non-families from using them. I've probably broken that rule myself at some point if they all do
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Hannity is urging that the Mueller probe be "shut down", whatever that means
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On June 13 2017 12:50 Nevuk wrote:
Hannity is urging that the Mueller probe be "shut down", whatever that means
It's part of the clearly "totally coincidental and unplanned" attempts to discredit Mueller and the investigation by Gingrich/Giuliani/Coulter/etc. All cloaked in vague conspiracy theories for other to weave.
Especially transparent from Gingrich since Gingrich applauded Mueller's appointment at the time.
I think they're going for discrediting rather than stoking a firing but who the fuck knows with these knuckleheads.
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On June 13 2017 12:29 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2017 12:18 Danglars wrote:On June 13 2017 11:57 LegalLord wrote:On June 13 2017 11:40 Danglars wrote:On June 13 2017 10:23 LegalLord wrote:Trump needs to turn his presidency around by doing what we elected him to do. Not play the Russia game and get into Twitter spats, but rework our FP, get rid of NAFTA, make those Obama-era European sycophants piss off, and make life better for the disenfranchised rural folk who voted him in. A good job doesn't start or end with Twitter wars or Russia investigations. "What we elected him to do?" I thought you were one of those voting not to elect him? I take the Bernie Sanders approach: we're stuck with him, we didn't want him, but if he's serious about all the FP/trade/infrastructure things he promised, then in that he has my support. If he does stupid things forever, then fuck that. I elected him for SCOTUS, Wall, and Repeal. We're a third of the way there, with cause for concern in the final two. And just to recap, I was worried he'd nominate a squish for the Supreme Court in true liberal Republican manner, but he stuck to his list. Difference being, I not only support him in those big campaign promises, but I also voted for him in November. Paris agreement and media antagonism are just free bonuses, just like a tax cut and regulation cutting would be. Of course he's awful and all on twitter, messaging, and undercutting his agenda, but he can still earn that C+ if he manages results in the chaos. You seriously elected him to spend 40B dollars on a wall (plus annual maintenance of another 1-3B) that will likely do absolutely nothing to stop any drugs whatsoever from coming across the boarder. Ignoring the Rio Grande problem and the private property problem and the mountain problem and the litany of problems that make the wall impractical just from a cost perspective its a giant waste of money. At least the infamous bridge to nowhere was going to be useful to someone somewhere.
The protestations of open-border and porous-border types are only a slight bonus, I must admit. It would've been solved long ago if the culture produced inveterate Republican voters. But who cares about rule of law when it comes to immigration law, am I right? We're a nation of whoever feels like migrating at this present hour, and the process is more like a set of guidelines.
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On June 13 2017 12:50 Nevuk wrote:
Hannity is urging that the Mueller probe be "shut down", whatever that means
Hannity's a joke nowadays, and it's such a shame. About fifteen years ago he could put on a pretty good act.
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On June 13 2017 12:58 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2017 12:50 Nevuk wrote:
Hannity is urging that the Mueller probe be "shut down", whatever that means It's part of the clearly "totally coincidental and unplanned" attempts to discredit Mueller and the investigation by Gingrich/Giuliani/Coulter/etc. All cloaked in vague conspiracy theories for other to weave. Especially transparent from Gingrich since Gingrich applauded Mueller's appointment at the time. I think they're going for discrediting rather than stoking a firing but who the fuck knows with these knuckleheads.
That liberal media though.
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On June 13 2017 12:45 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2017 12:09 Danglars wrote:A transgender man filed a complaint with the Seattle Office for Civil Rights on Monday afternoon against the Seattle Public Library for refusing to allow him to use the only private restroom in its downtown building, which is reserved for families.
After Ryan “Comet” Alley refused to stop filming his encounter this past Wednesday with a library security officer, he was asked to leave. When he didn’t, the officer banned him from the library for three days. Alley posted the video to Facebook, attracting thousands of views.
Danni Askini, executive director of the Gender Justice League, said she thinks the library is out of compliance with the city’s all-gender restroom ordinance.
The ordinance requires any single-stall restroom in a public place to be accessible to all people, regardless of their gender identity.
Even though the library has bathrooms labeled for men and women, library spokeswoman Andra Addison said they are all gender-neutral.
Alley, who wrote in his Facebook post that he is disabled, told library staff he didn’t feel safe using bathrooms with any gender label. He didn’t say why.
The restroom Alley wanted to use was off-limits, Addison said, because he didn’t have a child with him. That restroom is in the Central Library’s children’s section. Seattle TimesWe'll see if activists stop at family restrooms in the children's section. To be somewhat fair it's a single-stall restroom. In general gender labels on single-stall restrooms are an abomination that breeds inefficiency for no reason whatsoever (beyond randomly making it more of a pain for whichever group predominates at a given time to pee). Family labeling is useful to ensure there's always one available to change, though I've honestly never heard of family restrooms that actively bar non-families from using them. I've probably broken that rule myself at some point if they all do
But is it an anti-LGBT policy? Let's be fair; he could've used any other restroom but he chose the family one in the children's section.
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On June 13 2017 12:14 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2017 12:09 Danglars wrote:A transgender man filed a complaint with the Seattle Office for Civil Rights on Monday afternoon against the Seattle Public Library for refusing to allow him to use the only private restroom in its downtown building, which is reserved for families.
After Ryan “Comet” Alley refused to stop filming his encounter this past Wednesday with a library security officer, he was asked to leave. When he didn’t, the officer banned him from the library for three days. Alley posted the video to Facebook, attracting thousands of views.
Danni Askini, executive director of the Gender Justice League, said she thinks the library is out of compliance with the city’s all-gender restroom ordinance.
The ordinance requires any single-stall restroom in a public place to be accessible to all people, regardless of their gender identity.
Even though the library has bathrooms labeled for men and women, library spokeswoman Andra Addison said they are all gender-neutral.
Alley, who wrote in his Facebook post that he is disabled, told library staff he didn’t feel safe using bathrooms with any gender label. He didn’t say why.
The restroom Alley wanted to use was off-limits, Addison said, because he didn’t have a child with him. That restroom is in the Central Library’s children’s section. Seattle TimesWe'll see if activists stop at family restrooms in the children's section. LMAO Didn't feel safe using a bathroom with a gender label. Yeah, I'm all for doing the best we can for people in a shitty position, but this person went way off the deep end.
"The best we can for people in a shitty position" no pun intended?
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Well, Congress is at least moving to shut-down whatever future handouts Trump had planned for his blackmailers/benefactors.
This was wonderfully smart of Putin. Interfere not just in America's election, but in all the powerful NATO members. So relations are now reduced to Cold War levels, and Russia's economy becomes further isolated.
Of course, none of it hurts Putin's offshore billionaire bank-accounts.
The younger batch of Russians seem to finally be getting a little sick of it. God help them.
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On June 13 2017 13:04 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2017 12:45 TheTenthDoc wrote:On June 13 2017 12:09 Danglars wrote:A transgender man filed a complaint with the Seattle Office for Civil Rights on Monday afternoon against the Seattle Public Library for refusing to allow him to use the only private restroom in its downtown building, which is reserved for families.
After Ryan “Comet” Alley refused to stop filming his encounter this past Wednesday with a library security officer, he was asked to leave. When he didn’t, the officer banned him from the library for three days. Alley posted the video to Facebook, attracting thousands of views.
Danni Askini, executive director of the Gender Justice League, said she thinks the library is out of compliance with the city’s all-gender restroom ordinance.
The ordinance requires any single-stall restroom in a public place to be accessible to all people, regardless of their gender identity.
Even though the library has bathrooms labeled for men and women, library spokeswoman Andra Addison said they are all gender-neutral.
Alley, who wrote in his Facebook post that he is disabled, told library staff he didn’t feel safe using bathrooms with any gender label. He didn’t say why.
The restroom Alley wanted to use was off-limits, Addison said, because he didn’t have a child with him. That restroom is in the Central Library’s children’s section. Seattle TimesWe'll see if activists stop at family restrooms in the children's section. To be somewhat fair it's a single-stall restroom. In general gender labels on single-stall restrooms are an abomination that breeds inefficiency for no reason whatsoever (beyond randomly making it more of a pain for whichever group predominates at a given time to pee). Family labeling is useful to ensure there's always one available to change, though I've honestly never heard of family restrooms that actively bar non-families from using them. I've probably broken that rule myself at some point if they all do But is it an anti-LGBT policy? Let's be fair; he could've used any other restroom but he chose the family one in the children's section.
I don't think it's really anti-LGBT, I think it does seem to violate that city ordinance. Honestly don't see what that violation would even have to do with him being trans.
Also I must say I don't understand why you're harping on "the children's section." It feels like a vague reference to him being there being somehow criminal/ominous/threatening which I hope you don't intend. Especially since it's single-stall and it's even stupider to have those intimations of people peeping on others in bathrooms.
Edit: Basically if my city had that same ordinance and I desperately needed to take a shit and the first thing I saw was a single-stall family restroom, I would hope to be able to use it. Especially after asking a security guard. Wherever it is.
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On June 13 2017 13:04 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2017 12:45 TheTenthDoc wrote:On June 13 2017 12:09 Danglars wrote:A transgender man filed a complaint with the Seattle Office for Civil Rights on Monday afternoon against the Seattle Public Library for refusing to allow him to use the only private restroom in its downtown building, which is reserved for families.
After Ryan “Comet” Alley refused to stop filming his encounter this past Wednesday with a library security officer, he was asked to leave. When he didn’t, the officer banned him from the library for three days. Alley posted the video to Facebook, attracting thousands of views.
Danni Askini, executive director of the Gender Justice League, said she thinks the library is out of compliance with the city’s all-gender restroom ordinance.
The ordinance requires any single-stall restroom in a public place to be accessible to all people, regardless of their gender identity.
Even though the library has bathrooms labeled for men and women, library spokeswoman Andra Addison said they are all gender-neutral.
Alley, who wrote in his Facebook post that he is disabled, told library staff he didn’t feel safe using bathrooms with any gender label. He didn’t say why.
The restroom Alley wanted to use was off-limits, Addison said, because he didn’t have a child with him. That restroom is in the Central Library’s children’s section. Seattle TimesWe'll see if activists stop at family restrooms in the children's section. To be somewhat fair it's a single-stall restroom. In general gender labels on single-stall restrooms are an abomination that breeds inefficiency for no reason whatsoever (beyond randomly making it more of a pain for whichever group predominates at a given time to pee). Family labeling is useful to ensure there's always one available to change, though I've honestly never heard of family restrooms that actively bar non-families from using them. I've probably broken that rule myself at some point if they all do But is it an anti-LGBT policy? Let's be fair; he could've used any other restroom but he chose the family one in the children's section.
If he used birth sex, people are likely to complain. It also kind of undercuts the whole transition process and the reality of being a trans person. As for why he was uncomfortable using a men's room... that's something I'd need to know more about the person to figure out.
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On June 13 2017 13:12 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2017 13:04 Danglars wrote:On June 13 2017 12:45 TheTenthDoc wrote:On June 13 2017 12:09 Danglars wrote:A transgender man filed a complaint with the Seattle Office for Civil Rights on Monday afternoon against the Seattle Public Library for refusing to allow him to use the only private restroom in its downtown building, which is reserved for families.
After Ryan “Comet” Alley refused to stop filming his encounter this past Wednesday with a library security officer, he was asked to leave. When he didn’t, the officer banned him from the library for three days. Alley posted the video to Facebook, attracting thousands of views.
Danni Askini, executive director of the Gender Justice League, said she thinks the library is out of compliance with the city’s all-gender restroom ordinance.
The ordinance requires any single-stall restroom in a public place to be accessible to all people, regardless of their gender identity.
Even though the library has bathrooms labeled for men and women, library spokeswoman Andra Addison said they are all gender-neutral.
Alley, who wrote in his Facebook post that he is disabled, told library staff he didn’t feel safe using bathrooms with any gender label. He didn’t say why.
The restroom Alley wanted to use was off-limits, Addison said, because he didn’t have a child with him. That restroom is in the Central Library’s children’s section. Seattle TimesWe'll see if activists stop at family restrooms in the children's section. To be somewhat fair it's a single-stall restroom. In general gender labels on single-stall restrooms are an abomination that breeds inefficiency for no reason whatsoever (beyond randomly making it more of a pain for whichever group predominates at a given time to pee). Family labeling is useful to ensure there's always one available to change, though I've honestly never heard of family restrooms that actively bar non-families from using them. I've probably broken that rule myself at some point if they all do But is it an anti-LGBT policy? Let's be fair; he could've used any other restroom but he chose the family one in the children's section. If he used birth sex, people are likely to complain. It also kind of undercuts the whole transition process and the reality of being a trans person. As for why he was uncomfortable using a men's room... that's something I'd need to know more about the person to figure out.
If he's there without a child, people are likely to complain when he does not have a child. And it's not about being uncomfortable using a men's room ... it's uncomfortable using "bathrooms with any gender label."
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On June 13 2017 13:21 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2017 13:12 Gahlo wrote:On June 13 2017 13:04 Danglars wrote:On June 13 2017 12:45 TheTenthDoc wrote:On June 13 2017 12:09 Danglars wrote:A transgender man filed a complaint with the Seattle Office for Civil Rights on Monday afternoon against the Seattle Public Library for refusing to allow him to use the only private restroom in its downtown building, which is reserved for families.
After Ryan “Comet” Alley refused to stop filming his encounter this past Wednesday with a library security officer, he was asked to leave. When he didn’t, the officer banned him from the library for three days. Alley posted the video to Facebook, attracting thousands of views.
Danni Askini, executive director of the Gender Justice League, said she thinks the library is out of compliance with the city’s all-gender restroom ordinance.
The ordinance requires any single-stall restroom in a public place to be accessible to all people, regardless of their gender identity.
Even though the library has bathrooms labeled for men and women, library spokeswoman Andra Addison said they are all gender-neutral.
Alley, who wrote in his Facebook post that he is disabled, told library staff he didn’t feel safe using bathrooms with any gender label. He didn’t say why.
The restroom Alley wanted to use was off-limits, Addison said, because he didn’t have a child with him. That restroom is in the Central Library’s children’s section. Seattle TimesWe'll see if activists stop at family restrooms in the children's section. To be somewhat fair it's a single-stall restroom. In general gender labels on single-stall restrooms are an abomination that breeds inefficiency for no reason whatsoever (beyond randomly making it more of a pain for whichever group predominates at a given time to pee). Family labeling is useful to ensure there's always one available to change, though I've honestly never heard of family restrooms that actively bar non-families from using them. I've probably broken that rule myself at some point if they all do But is it an anti-LGBT policy? Let's be fair; he could've used any other restroom but he chose the family one in the children's section. If he used birth sex, people are likely to complain. It also kind of undercuts the whole transition process and the reality of being a trans person. As for why he was uncomfortable using a men's room... that's something I'd need to know more about the person to figure out. If he's there without a child, people are likely to complain when he does not have a child. And it's not about being uncomfortable using a men's room ... it's uncomfortable using "bathrooms with any gender label."
It is possible he was less sure the other bathrooms would be single-stall (note this is not mentioned in the story) and actually just preferred not having to engage with others in the bathroom. Or, indeed, that he felt he would be judged whichever bathroom he picked by people seeing him enter/leave it. The family restroom (or an actual unlabeled single-stall bathroom the library may not have) avoids either of those issues and in many places would have been perfectly fine for him to use, and should have been under the law.
Edit: I also must say I don't know anyone who would complain after seeing someone leave a single-stall family restroom without a child? That seems bananas to me, unless there was a like a line of kids needing changing
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On June 13 2017 13:21 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2017 13:12 Gahlo wrote:On June 13 2017 13:04 Danglars wrote:On June 13 2017 12:45 TheTenthDoc wrote:On June 13 2017 12:09 Danglars wrote:A transgender man filed a complaint with the Seattle Office for Civil Rights on Monday afternoon against the Seattle Public Library for refusing to allow him to use the only private restroom in its downtown building, which is reserved for families.
After Ryan “Comet” Alley refused to stop filming his encounter this past Wednesday with a library security officer, he was asked to leave. When he didn’t, the officer banned him from the library for three days. Alley posted the video to Facebook, attracting thousands of views.
Danni Askini, executive director of the Gender Justice League, said she thinks the library is out of compliance with the city’s all-gender restroom ordinance.
The ordinance requires any single-stall restroom in a public place to be accessible to all people, regardless of their gender identity.
Even though the library has bathrooms labeled for men and women, library spokeswoman Andra Addison said they are all gender-neutral.
Alley, who wrote in his Facebook post that he is disabled, told library staff he didn’t feel safe using bathrooms with any gender label. He didn’t say why.
The restroom Alley wanted to use was off-limits, Addison said, because he didn’t have a child with him. That restroom is in the Central Library’s children’s section. Seattle TimesWe'll see if activists stop at family restrooms in the children's section. To be somewhat fair it's a single-stall restroom. In general gender labels on single-stall restrooms are an abomination that breeds inefficiency for no reason whatsoever (beyond randomly making it more of a pain for whichever group predominates at a given time to pee). Family labeling is useful to ensure there's always one available to change, though I've honestly never heard of family restrooms that actively bar non-families from using them. I've probably broken that rule myself at some point if they all do But is it an anti-LGBT policy? Let's be fair; he could've used any other restroom but he chose the family one in the children's section. If he used birth sex, people are likely to complain. It also kind of undercuts the whole transition process and the reality of being a trans person. As for why he was uncomfortable using a men's room... that's something I'd need to know more about the person to figure out. If he's there without a child, people are likely to complain when he does not have a child. And it's not about being uncomfortable using a men's room ... it's uncomfortable using "bathrooms with any gender label."
Right, because trans people in bathrooms with kids isn't part of the whole transphobic bathroom climate.
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I mean the person was video taping the whole thing he obviously was asking for controversy and got it. It seems a little shitty to go after a public library.
I can understand if the library keeps a bathroom specifically for families of young children so that they have somewhere to change them where they don't have to do it in front of people. Providing a place where they can read stories to small children or some other public library thing sounds like a great thing.
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On June 13 2017 11:52 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2017 11:39 ChristianS wrote:On June 13 2017 11:35 Danglars wrote:On June 13 2017 08:51 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
I assume this would require republican support What a constitutional illiterate. He has jack shit to do with appointments of special counsel; the best he can do is aim for an investigatory committee and appoint Mueller, but even then he'd need help for the authorizing resolution. Not certain what you mean. A cursory read of the wikipedia page suggests that Congress can appoint special counsel, and has before in the Teapot Dome scandal. Presumably Schiff would be referring to a similar process? What am I missing here? No, Congress passes resolutions for forming things like investigatory committees. It appoints Jack and Shit. He would need to convince his fellow congressmen on the commmittee to support the resolution; Teapot Dome's Kendrick only introduced a resolution that his fellow senators could oppose or support, because you see Congress has no executive power of appointment.
Sorry, still confused. He claimed Congress was going to do it, not himself. And Congress as far as I can tell has the power to require that a special investigator be appointed. Is the issue that they can't choose who that special counsel is? I'm a little unclear on who gets to choose that – it's clearly not the president.
Edit: rereading the tweet he doesn't say they'd re-establish him as special investigator, he says they'd "reestablish independent counsel." Is that the same thing?
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