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ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3220 Posts
January 21 2017 21:14 GMT
#132261
Interesting that Trump's singlehandedly crashed the peso, and that it makes many of his campaign issues he wanted to solve actually worsen. On illegal immigration you could imagine it helping him politically; problem gets worse, people retroactively think he was right to focus on it.

On the jobs side, I don't see how he can come out looking good. He promised the sky, and the measures he wants (e.g. 35% tariffs) would probably do a lot of harm both here and abroad. If in addition, he crashes the peso so hard that even with the tariffs it's still more efficient to manufacture in Mexico, we could wind up with the worst of both worlds, with all blame landing squarely on Trump.
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-21 21:32:53
January 21 2017 21:19 GMT
#132262
On January 22 2017 06:14 ChristianS wrote:
Interesting that Trump's singlehandedly crashed the peso, and that it makes many of his campaign issues he wanted to solve actually worsen. On illegal immigration you could imagine it helping him politically; problem gets worse, people retroactively think he was right to focus on it.

On the jobs side, I don't see how he can come out looking good. He promised the sky, and the measures he wants (e.g. 35% tariffs) would probably do a lot of harm both here and abroad. If in addition, he crashes the peso so hard that even with the tariffs it's still more efficient to manufacture in Mexico, we could wind up with the worst of both worlds, with all blame landing squarely on Trump.



nbcnews had an article on that. but yeah cost to build a plant in mexico has fallen almost in half. and even if the Mexican economy tanks that means that more people will try to make it to the US and their likely to get mad and elect a hardliner in 2018 presidential election.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 21 2017 21:24 GMT
#132263
A crack in an ice shelf in Antarctica grew by six miles in the past few weeks, British scientists say, and now measures more than 100 miles long.

Once the crack is complete, a giant iceberg larger than Rhode Island will break or "calve" off of Antarctica. The iceberg would be one of the biggest on record.

The break "will fundamentally change the landscape of the Antarctic Peninsula," according to Project MIDAS, a British Antarctic research project that's tracking the crack.

Only a final 12 miles of ice now connects the future iceberg to its parent ice shelf.

Ice shelves are permanent floating sheets of ice that connect to a land mass, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center.

Most of the world's ice shelves hug the coast of Antarctica. The Larsen C shelf is on the Antarctic Peninsula, the portion of the continent that juts out toward South America.

If the iceberg did break off, it wouldn't contribute to sea-level rise since it's already floating, said Ted Scambos, a scientist with the data center. (If a chunk of ice that big did drop into the sea, it would raise sea levels about 1/16 of an inch, he said.)

However, once that iceberg breaks off, land ice that had been blocked by the berg would plop into the sea. It's that ice that would eventually raise sea levels, NASA scientist Thomas Wagner said. "Ice shelves serve a critical role in buttressing ice that's on land," he said.

There is not enough information to know whether the split is a result of climate change or not, but there is "good scientific evidence" climate change has caused thinning of the ice shelf, the British researchers say.

Once the iceberg sheared off, it would float along the coast of Antarctica, then head out into the Southern Ocean.

"As it moved north, ocean temperatures both at the surface and at the base of the berg would begin to thin it and erode it from the edges," Scambos said. It would eventually break apart into smaller chunks that would melt into the ocean.


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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 21 2017 22:28 GMT
#132264
Hope trumps voters are tracking his promises. Yesterday he added eradicating all radical Islamic terrorism.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
January 21 2017 22:29 GMT
#132265
On January 22 2017 07:28 Doodsmack wrote:
Hope trumps voters are tracking his promises. Yesterday he added eradicating all radical Islamic terrorism.

From what I can tell, he uses a very different speaking style, where words don't mean what they are.
I wish they had someone assigned to translating what he says into normal speak or academic speak, so we could know what he was trying to say.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 21 2017 22:36 GMT
#132266
On January 22 2017 07:29 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2017 07:28 Doodsmack wrote:
Hope trumps voters are tracking his promises. Yesterday he added eradicating all radical Islamic terrorism.

From what I can tell, he uses a very different speaking style, where words don't mean what they are.
I wish they had someone assigned to translating what he says into normal speak or academic speak, so we could know what he was trying to say.


That's what Rick Perry, Ben Carson, and Betsy DeVos are for - executing on his promises.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-21 22:43:55
January 21 2017 22:43 GMT
#132267
Sean Spicer giving a WH press room briefing on the inauguration crowd size.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-21 22:46:45
January 21 2017 22:45 GMT
#132268
So Trump has officially declared war on the press. Such is expected.

Expect a lot of lies from Trump's twitter is the take away message.
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
January 21 2017 22:46 GMT
#132269
On January 22 2017 07:45 On_Slaught wrote:
So Trump has officially declared war on the press. Such is expected.


What happened?
Something witty
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 21 2017 22:47 GMT
#132270
Kind of shows how desperate the Corporate Press is for the appearance of validation. Meanwhile the online press keeps growing.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4844 Posts
January 21 2017 22:47 GMT
#132271
On January 22 2017 02:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2017 02:19 mustaju wrote:
On January 22 2017 02:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
"Trump plans to eliminate 25 violence against women grant programs as way to cut spending"

https://m.mic.com/articles/165980/trump-plans-to-eliminate-25-violence-against-women-grant-programs-as-way-to-cut-spending#.6szYthnVz

Should make it easier for our president to continue sexually assaulting women. Good to know!

Attempting to save money at the expense of aiding Americans who are being raped and sexually assaulted is pretty awful imo. It's a pretty worthy cause, no?

If it's not done by the immigrants that he's deporting, does it count as rape?
+ Show Spoiler +
Sarcasm, obviously!


That reminds me of the whole "If it's a legitimate rape, the body will shut down the pregnancy without need for an abortion" statement of Todd Akin lol. So embarrassing, but is apparently a reasonable argument for some Republican leaders.


Which Republican leaders?

The ones who called on him to drop out or who pulled his funding?
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
January 21 2017 22:48 GMT
#132272
On January 22 2017 07:45 On_Slaught wrote:
So Trump has officially declared war on the press. Such is expected.

Expect a lot of lies from Trump's twitter is the take away message.



well that's sure to go well. didn't mark Twain say something about that.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 21 2017 22:48 GMT
#132273
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-21 22:51:18
January 21 2017 22:50 GMT
#132274
On January 22 2017 07:46 IyMoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2017 07:45 On_Slaught wrote:
So Trump has officially declared war on the press. Such is expected.


What happened?


He said that while you (the press) hold Trump accountable we (the administration) are going to hold the press accountable. He implied that Trump will bypass the middle man and go straight to the people via twitter. All of this was said in a decidedly angry speech.

The whole thing about the crowd sizes was just waxing Trump's ego and entirely random and inappropriate.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 21 2017 22:54 GMT
#132275
On January 22 2017 07:47 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Kind of shows how desperate the Corporate Press is for the appearance of validation. Meanwhile the online press keeps growing.


Corporate Press is making bank FYI.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 21 2017 22:54 GMT
#132276
Nothing bad can happen with this plan:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 21 2017 23:05 GMT
#132277
Could be the largest crowd size of protests on a single day in US history. Now these people better vote in 2018 and 2020 lol.
Euphorbus
Profile Joined December 2016
92 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-21 23:11:14
January 21 2017 23:07 GMT
#132278
So on day 2 of the Trump presidency there was already an anti-Trump/pro-Woman's rights protest with the biggest crowd in DC since the anti Iraq war rallies.

Of course Trump is already calling the media 'liars, fake news sad!' for not claiming there were 1.5 million at his inauguration.

"There is nobody that has more respect for [x] than..."

"I have heard many great things..."


We really have to endure 4 years of that nonsense?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 21 2017 23:10 GMT
#132279
On January 22 2017 07:45 On_Slaught wrote:
So Trump has officially declared war on the press. Such is expected.

Expect a lot of lies from Trump's twitter is the take away message.

Trump is entirely correct to treat the press as the enemy. The press has no interest in doing Trump any favors in its coverage of him. They declared their biases long ago. Trump is merely reciprocating. This is only big deal because Trump is the first GOP politician to actually fight back.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23411 Posts
January 21 2017 23:11 GMT
#132280
It's going to be a long year or so (before Trump is gone).



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/20/us/politics/trump-inauguration-crowd.html

Looks like the press sec is just going to double down on Trump's petty ego inflating lies.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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