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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
November 09 2016 04:18 GMT
#121081
On November 09 2016 13:17 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:17 Introvert wrote:
And all of a sudden, Ted Cruz's actions go back to looking good for him again, same for Rubio and all other NeverTrump people that got on board.


Time for Cruz to put his powers of disruption for good.


Ef that, I'm glad Cruz didn't win, Trump I can live with but fuck Cruz.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 04:19 GMT
#121082
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14048 Posts
November 09 2016 04:19 GMT
#121083
Trump can't start his presidency by burning his own powerbase. It would make him a lame duck from day 1 without the ability to get anything done. The first thing he will have to do is make peace with Paul ryan and get something easy done in the first 100 days.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23488 Posts
November 09 2016 04:19 GMT
#121084
On February 24 2016 07:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
I'm glad people are finally waking up to Trump being the nominee. I think it validates a lot of what I've been saying for a long time but I suppose Introvert will still disagree.

On the spending side, there's been about $180,000,000 spent so far on the Republican side. Approximately $9m was used to attack Trump, they've been running scared the whole campaign.


It's basically up to Democrats to decide if they want to win or not. Hillary will lose, Bernie will win.

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6319 Posts
November 09 2016 04:19 GMT
#121085
On November 09 2016 13:17 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:15 xDaunt wrote:
Oh yes, and lest we forget, fuck all of those republican politicians who turned their backs on Trump. The GOP as we knew it is dead, thank god.

The GOP establishment's strategy still seems to be "ride on Trump's coattails as much as possible while be ready to ditch him if he fucks up".

Let's see if the public buys the ass-kissing.

Nah, there is going to be a deep purge in the GOP ofver the next 4 years. The Trump stream is going to have absolute power
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 09 2016 04:20 GMT
#121086
On November 09 2016 13:19 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/796202785230516225

Michael Moore really nailed it.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 04:24:14
November 09 2016 04:20 GMT
#121087
On November 09 2016 13:14 Toadesstern wrote:
I just don't think she can take Michigan. Sure Only 52% reporting and "omg still Detroit" with that only being at 575 out of 999 reported but that doesn't even make it underrepresented.
The only hope for her I'm seeing there would be Washtenaw County at 10 out of 143 reporting ( 70 vs 25 lead for Clinton) that's still out. Not sure if that's enough votes, could get close


Looking at Michigan I see a chance Washtenaw and Wayne put her over the top. Wisconsin is scarier imo.

PA is also a growing worry, given the %s
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 09 2016 04:21 GMT
#121088
Well, on the plus side

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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14048 Posts
November 09 2016 04:21 GMT
#121089
On November 09 2016 13:19 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:17 TheYango wrote:
On November 09 2016 13:15 xDaunt wrote:
Oh yes, and lest we forget, fuck all of those republican politicians who turned their backs on Trump. The GOP as we knew it is dead, thank god.

The GOP establishment's strategy still seems to be "ride on Trump's coattails as much as possible while be ready to ditch him if he fucks up".

Let's see if the public buys the ass-kissing.

Nah, there is going to be a deep purge in the GOP ofver the next 4 years. The Trump stream is going to have absolute power

How can he purge the parties center when its the difference between the party having a majority and not having the majority?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4358 Posts
November 09 2016 04:21 GMT
#121090
On November 09 2016 13:18 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Rachel Maddow is seething behind that obvious fake smile.

Looking forward to the youtube compilations of these reaction videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 09 2016 04:22 GMT
#121091
On November 09 2016 13:19 zeo wrote:
Nah, there is going to be a deep purge in the GOP ofver the next 4 years. The Trump stream is going to have absolute power

There can't be a "deep purge" without uprooting their local constituencies.

If that hasn't made abundantly clear, bad congresspeople are hard to get rid of if their local constituencies are still willing to re-elect them. That's why people like McConnell and DWS are still around.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 09 2016 04:22 GMT
#121092
On November 09 2016 13:21 eviltomahawk wrote:
Well, on the plus side

https://twitter.com/latimes/status/796205451796971520


Good news. Couple states for medical as well.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
November 09 2016 04:22 GMT
#121093
On November 09 2016 13:09 xDaunt wrote:
Regardless, the key is Trump. Like I have been saying for a year or so, Trump is going to make deals in Washington to get things done. He will give things up to get what he really wants. There's going to be a return to more "bipartisan" normalcy


Why because he wrote the Art of the Deal? This is just you hoping that a good outcome you dreamed up will happen.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4358 Posts
November 09 2016 04:22 GMT
#121094
On November 09 2016 13:19 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/796202785230516225

Totally.
if NAFTA and TPP didn't exist Clinton would have won Michigan.
mark it down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 09 2016 04:22 GMT
#121095
On November 09 2016 13:20 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:19 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/796202785230516225

Michael Moore really nailed it.


what did he say
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
November 09 2016 04:23 GMT
#121096
Trump's lead in Michigan just got sliced as more comes out of Detroit, but there's still a ton of red counties with low or no reporting yet
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 09 2016 04:23 GMT
#121097
On November 09 2016 13:17 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:00 travis wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:54 blade55555 wrote:
I know a majority of TL will disagree and hate this result, but this is for the best. Out of the two candidates we are choosing the least corrupt out of the two.

Originally I wasn't even going to vote as both candidates were so shitty. Then I did legit research, not doing research on biased sites like fox news/CNN/MSN/etc. Not listening to the Media, this site, reddit and definitely not my Facebook, but actually looking into them. Reading the DNC emails, I will never understand how people can vote for Hillary. If the leaks where Trump cheated his way into the Primary, had CNN paid off to ask specific questions to his opponent, I would vote Hillary 100%. But that's not what happened, instead we got one of, if not the most corrupt candidate the US has ever had, Hillary as his opponent.


I hope Trump is good, don't know if he will actually be a good president or not, but I know he's better than Hillary will ever be. So I hope Trump wins tonight, I know it's looking good, but until it's 100% it's not over.


Is it not true that trump is filling his cabinet with idiots?

Well... what can you do right now? You can only try to look at the bright side of this situation here.

I'm sure if you sit down with a large teapot and do the same as blade55555, read a thousand or so of the DNC and Podesta emails, you'll get a really terrible feeling about Clinton as well. That can then perhaps be channelled into a positive outlook for the future. Liberals were supposed to be the good guys. With that mindset the collusion with media and wall street and foreign donors is seriously disappointing. A good thing that could happen now is that if Dems really lose today, this could be taken as an opportunity to purge the party of this corruption, to go back to having pure dreams for the future instead of using the system as a get-rich-quick-scheme.


You say that like the collusion is a recent phenomenon. It goes back for a few decades at least.

If anything, I think the Democratic Party was too in love with its self-image.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 09 2016 04:23 GMT
#121098
Most electoral votes since Bush a decade ago. Suck it, McCain & Romney.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-09 04:25:05
November 09 2016 04:23 GMT
#121099
On November 09 2016 13:20 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:14 Toadesstern wrote:
I just don't think she can take Michigan. Sure Only 52% reporting and "omg still Detroit" with that only being at 575 out of 999 reported but that doesn't even make it underrepresented.
The only hope for her I'm seeing there would be Washtenaw County at 10 out of 143 reporting ( 70 vs 25 lead for Clinton) that's still out. Not sure if that's enough votes, could get close


Looking at Michigan I see a chance Washtenaw and Wayne put her over the top. Wisconsin is scarier imo.

PA is also a growing worry, given the %s

just as you wrote it a bunch from Wayne gets in. That puts her at 47.2 vs 47.8 but again, Wayne is now like 718 reported out of 999, so if anything that's overrepresented and Washtenaw has to make up for everything else.

But yeah I agree, Wisconsin 4-5% down is probably even tougher for her
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 04:24 GMT
#121100
So Clinton has to win Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Nevada. She down in 3 of the four.

Viva El Presidente Trump.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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