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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 09 2016 04:24 GMT
#121101
On November 09 2016 13:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:17 Ropid wrote:
On November 09 2016 13:00 travis wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:54 blade55555 wrote:
I know a majority of TL will disagree and hate this result, but this is for the best. Out of the two candidates we are choosing the least corrupt out of the two.

Originally I wasn't even going to vote as both candidates were so shitty. Then I did legit research, not doing research on biased sites like fox news/CNN/MSN/etc. Not listening to the Media, this site, reddit and definitely not my Facebook, but actually looking into them. Reading the DNC emails, I will never understand how people can vote for Hillary. If the leaks where Trump cheated his way into the Primary, had CNN paid off to ask specific questions to his opponent, I would vote Hillary 100%. But that's not what happened, instead we got one of, if not the most corrupt candidate the US has ever had, Hillary as his opponent.


I hope Trump is good, don't know if he will actually be a good president or not, but I know he's better than Hillary will ever be. So I hope Trump wins tonight, I know it's looking good, but until it's 100% it's not over.


Is it not true that trump is filling his cabinet with idiots?

Well... what can you do right now? You can only try to look at the bright side of this situation here.

I'm sure if you sit down with a large teapot and do the same as blade55555, read a thousand or so of the DNC and Podesta emails, you'll get a really terrible feeling about Clinton as well. That can then perhaps be channelled into a positive outlook for the future. Liberals were supposed to be the good guys. With that mindset the collusion with media and wall street and foreign donors is seriously disappointing. A good thing that could happen now is that if Dems really lose today, this could be taken as an opportunity to purge the party of this corruption, to go back to having pure dreams for the future instead of using the system as a get-rich-quick-scheme.


You say that like the collusion is a recent phenomenon. It goes back for a few decades at least.

If anything, I think the Democratic Party was too in love with its self-image.

Both political parties have had those ties since the 1800s, it's basically part of the condition of being one of the major parties.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 09 2016 04:25 GMT
#121102
On November 09 2016 13:22 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:20 xDaunt wrote:
On November 09 2016 13:19 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:

Michael Moore really nailed it.


what did he say

For like the past year he has been railing against Democrats for neglecting the working class vote, saying stuff like this:

LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 09 2016 04:26 GMT
#121103
I suppose now is a good time for me to go dig up my "electable" memes in case I'm willing to risk the ban in return for posting them.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 09 2016 04:26 GMT
#121104
On November 09 2016 13:24 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So Clinton has to win Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Nevada. She down in 3 of the four.

Viva El Presidente Trump.

teeeechnically if she wins 3 of them we're getting the 269 dream for ultimate riots :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 09 2016 04:26 GMT
#121105
On November 09 2016 13:24 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So Clinton has to win Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Nevada. She down in 3 of the four.

Viva El Presidente Trump.

It's really close in Michigan, dunno about Nevada but Clinton leads in Pennsylvania. Wisconsin only has 10 seats, why is it so important? Or is it more for the total seat count to be reached?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 09 2016 04:27 GMT
#121106
Yeah, I'm assuming Trump wins and gonna try to catch some sleep. Not worth obsessing about the 5% or so chance she wins at this point.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
November 09 2016 04:27 GMT
#121107
GG America. Holy shit this is unprecidented. Most insane election in modern world history.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 09 2016 04:27 GMT
#121108
On November 09 2016 13:26 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:24 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So Clinton has to win Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Nevada. She down in 3 of the four.

Viva El Presidente Trump.

teeeechnically if she wins 3 of them we're getting the 269 dream for ultimate riots :3

An electoral draw is the ultimate nope that we could possibly have. That is the most nope thing that could possibly happen right now.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
November 09 2016 04:28 GMT
#121109
On November 09 2016 13:27 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:26 Toadesstern wrote:
On November 09 2016 13:24 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So Clinton has to win Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Nevada. She down in 3 of the four.

Viva El Presidente Trump.

teeeechnically if she wins 3 of them we're getting the 269 dream for ultimate riots :3

An electoral draw is the ultimate nope that we could possibly have. That is the most nope thing that could possibly happen right now.

Bush v Gore: Electric Boogaloo
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
November 09 2016 04:28 GMT
#121110
Politico reports that Clinton people at Javits are leaving in tears.
Unbelievable.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 09 2016 04:28 GMT
#121111
On November 09 2016 13:24 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On November 09 2016 13:17 Ropid wrote:
On November 09 2016 13:00 travis wrote:
On November 09 2016 12:54 blade55555 wrote:
I know a majority of TL will disagree and hate this result, but this is for the best. Out of the two candidates we are choosing the least corrupt out of the two.

Originally I wasn't even going to vote as both candidates were so shitty. Then I did legit research, not doing research on biased sites like fox news/CNN/MSN/etc. Not listening to the Media, this site, reddit and definitely not my Facebook, but actually looking into them. Reading the DNC emails, I will never understand how people can vote for Hillary. If the leaks where Trump cheated his way into the Primary, had CNN paid off to ask specific questions to his opponent, I would vote Hillary 100%. But that's not what happened, instead we got one of, if not the most corrupt candidate the US has ever had, Hillary as his opponent.


I hope Trump is good, don't know if he will actually be a good president or not, but I know he's better than Hillary will ever be. So I hope Trump wins tonight, I know it's looking good, but until it's 100% it's not over.


Is it not true that trump is filling his cabinet with idiots?

Well... what can you do right now? You can only try to look at the bright side of this situation here.

I'm sure if you sit down with a large teapot and do the same as blade55555, read a thousand or so of the DNC and Podesta emails, you'll get a really terrible feeling about Clinton as well. That can then perhaps be channelled into a positive outlook for the future. Liberals were supposed to be the good guys. With that mindset the collusion with media and wall street and foreign donors is seriously disappointing. A good thing that could happen now is that if Dems really lose today, this could be taken as an opportunity to purge the party of this corruption, to go back to having pure dreams for the future instead of using the system as a get-rich-quick-scheme.


You say that like the collusion is a recent phenomenon. It goes back for a few decades at least.

If anything, I think the Democratic Party was too in love with its self-image.

Both political parties have had those ties since the 1800s, it's basically part of the condition of being one of the major parties.


I believe for the Democrats, there was a hard shift beginning in the late 60's-early 70s.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
November 09 2016 04:28 GMT
#121112
Doesn't Trump win in this case because the house elects the president?
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
November 09 2016 04:28 GMT
#121113
My gut tells me Clinton will take Michigan. My gut also tells me she will win the whole thing. Or it could just be indigestion.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 09 2016 04:28 GMT
#121114
On November 09 2016 13:26 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:24 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So Clinton has to win Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Nevada. She down in 3 of the four.

Viva El Presidente Trump.

It's really close in Michigan, dunno about Nevada but Clinton leads in Pennsylvania. Wisconsin only has 10 seats, why is it so important? Or is it more for the total seat count to be reached?

The point about Wisconsin is that Hillary's firewall is coming apart. She should not be losing in WI and MI at all.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 04:29 GMT
#121115
California votes to legalize marijuana.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 09 2016 04:29 GMT
#121116
On November 09 2016 13:28 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 13:26 BigFan wrote:
On November 09 2016 13:24 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So Clinton has to win Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Nevada. She down in 3 of the four.

Viva El Presidente Trump.

It's really close in Michigan, dunno about Nevada but Clinton leads in Pennsylvania. Wisconsin only has 10 seats, why is it so important? Or is it more for the total seat count to be reached?

The point about Wisconsin is that Hillary's firewall is coming apart. She should not be losing in WI and MI at all.

oh ok fair enough.

Utah called for Trump now.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2016 04:29 GMT
#121117
Trump takes Utah.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 09 2016 04:30 GMT
#121118
On November 09 2016 13:28 Nyxisto wrote:
Doesn't Trump win in this case because the house elects the president?

Do you think Congress will elect Trump if they have the choice?

I don't know, and neither do you. But I do know that it would be a worse bloodbath than either candidate winning. It happened once 200 years ago, and it was one of the most notorious scandals in US history.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
November 09 2016 04:30 GMT
#121119
On November 09 2016 13:28 Nyxisto wrote:
Doesn't Trump win in this case because the house elects the president?


Yes Trump will win if there is no 270 for a clear majority in the house. Almost certainly.
日本語が分かりますか
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
November 09 2016 04:30 GMT
#121120
what about vote 60 tho? i only care about the porn
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