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Little-Chimp
Canada948 Posts
On November 03 2016 04:07 Rebs wrote: you're right, he just grabs em by the pussy... I'm not denying he uses his fame to get into sexual assault territory, but usually people that rape kids are really weird sexually repressed people. Why would someone who can bang supermodels rape a 13 year old? My gut tells me I can't convict him of this without more facts. Especially with this timing. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On November 03 2016 04:12 Little-Chimp wrote: I'm not denying he uses his fame to get into sexual assault territory, but usually people that rape kids are really weird sexually repressed people. Why would someone who can bang supermodels rape a 13 year old? My gut tells me I can't convict him of this without more facts. Especially with this timing. Except the part where he stated on a live talk show that he walked into change rooms to see 16 year olds naked? | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On November 03 2016 04:12 Little-Chimp wrote: I'm not denying he uses his fame to get into sexual assault territory, but usually people that rape kids are really weird sexually repressed people. Why would someone who can bang supermodels rape a 13 year old? My gut tells me I can't convict him of this without more facts. Especially with this timing. I mean, why would anyone bang a 13 year old? There's a pretty good explanation, it's just not very pleasant to think that one of the presidential candidates has those leanings. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On November 03 2016 04:10 Plansix wrote: He already admitted that he sexually assaults women and this case has been building for some time. The court documents are out there. The only reason the news media has not covered it was that they didn’t’ know the plaintiff’s name. Weirdly enough, this thing has been out there for 4 months and the Trump camp as not tried to discredit it or find out who filed it. They have just sort of ignored it and push all the deadlines until after the election. Then there are the reports of people who say they attended Trump parties and recall things like very young girls being there. I mean who knows for sure, but it's not like this is some out-of-left-field sort of thing. There's a lot of tidbits that build a pretty damning impression. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 03 2016 04:12 sertas wrote: well you cant trust all this shit. Any random woman can claim trump has sexually assaulted them for some nice attention it happens every fucking time some famous person is accused of sexual assault suddenly 50 woman out of nowhere come forward and say the same thing Ok, let’s trust 50% of the claims and 100% of what he said out loud. He has still sexually assaulted numerous women and busted into changing rooms with teenage girls changing. He freely admitted doing both. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On November 03 2016 04:12 sertas wrote: well you cant trust all this shit. Any random woman can claim trump has sexually assaulted them for some nice attention it happens every fucking time some famous person is accused of sexual assault suddenly 50 woman out of nowhere come forward and say the same thing Trump himself bragged about sexually assaulting women, on tape. | ||
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Little-Chimp
Canada948 Posts
On November 03 2016 04:13 WolfintheSheep wrote: Except the part where he stated on a live talk show that he walked into change rooms to see 16 year olds naked? Making shit hyperbole up only makes you look stupid. He said on a talk show that he would walk in on adult contests such as miss universe. People from teen beauty contests (ages 14 to 19) have separately claimed he has walked in on them too. I believe them tbh especially with 18 and 19 year olds there but still doesn't equate to sexual assault of a 13 year old at a party. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 03 2016 04:24 Little-Chimp wrote: Making shit hyperbole up only makes you look stupid. He said on a talk show that he would walk in on adult contests such as miss universe. People from teen beauty contests (ages 14 to 19) have separately claimed he has walked in on them too. I believe them tbh especially with 18 and 19 year olds there but still doesn't equate to sexual assault of a 13 year old at a party. Why would you doubt it without at least looking at the evidence first? Sexual assault is just one step away from rape and Trump freely admits to sexually assaulting women. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
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Little-Chimp
Canada948 Posts
On November 03 2016 04:27 Plansix wrote: Why would you doubt it without at least looking at the evidence first? Sexual assault is just one step away from rape and Trump freely admits to sexually assaulting women. Do you actually think Trump abusing his fame and money to grope/kiss a women before getting rejected (where he then backed off per his story) is ONE step from child rape? I'd say it's a pretty big leap, not completely unfounded since he has teen pageants but definitely one worth investigating and not immediately convicting. Also holding back a child rape case until 1 week before election? you're just looking for a convenient bomb here to drop on Donald IMO. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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CobaltBlu
United States919 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On November 03 2016 04:11 zeo wrote: Yawn theguardian Pretty shitty Hail Mary from the Clinton campaign, picking up a rape case that was thrown out twice 6 days before the election. Jerry Springer has more legitimacy at this point. In the years prior to 1992, the year of Bill Clinton's election, it was some of his political enemies who tried to get Juanita Broaddrick to come forward sooner. Oh and there's also this thing where Donald went on Howard Stern and said he walks in on teenagers changing in their dressing room. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
"I'm gonna be dating her in ten years, can you believe it?" | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On November 03 2016 04:38 Little-Chimp wrote: Do you actually think Trump abusing his fame and money to grope/kiss a women before getting rejected (where he then backed off per his story) is ONE step from child rape? I'd say it's a pretty big leap, not completely unfounded since he has teen pageants but definitely one worth investigating and not immediately convicting. Also holding back a child rape case until 1 week before election? you're just looking for a convenient bomb here to drop on Donald IMO. When you get down to it, the difference between sexually assaulting a young adult and sexually assaulting a child is asking their age first. | ||
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oBlade
United States5765 Posts
On November 03 2016 04:42 Plansix wrote: We will see. I can see it not getting coverage and I can also see it getting all the coverage. Trump has to know who this woman is at this point and they have not outed her or attempted to discredit the case to date. Every time he goes after or reciprocates shit against someone, we hear repeatedly how he's unhinged, undisciplined, unfocused, has no self-control, and so forth. Is someone claiming you're a child rapist the one time you're justified in being more than silent? | ||
KwarK
United States43219 Posts
On November 03 2016 04:39 xDaunt wrote: This Jane Doe thing is DoA. It's no longer a Jane Doe thing. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 03 2016 04:50 oBlade wrote: Every time he goes after or reciprocates shit against someone, we hear repeatedly how he's unhinged, undisciplined, unfocused, has no self-control, and so forth. Is someone claiming you're a child rapist the one time you're justified in being more than silent? Do you know why that is? | ||
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