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Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
November 02 2016 19:12 GMT
#117481
On November 03 2016 04:07 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 04:05 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:02 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:41 Plansix wrote:


And we sort of all knew this was coming. That case was filed months ago. There was a time when having a pending child rape case that wasn't instantly dismissed as fake would have doomed any candidate.


Wow I hope this gets all the headlines.


I dunno man Donald is a dumb ass but I don't see him as someone who rapes teenagers. I think this one will smell fishy to most people without more evidence.


you're right, he just grabs em by the pussy...


I'm not denying he uses his fame to get into sexual assault territory, but usually people that rape kids are really weird sexually repressed people.

Why would someone who can bang supermodels rape a 13 year old? My gut tells me I can't convict him of this without more facts. Especially with this timing.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
November 02 2016 19:13 GMT
#117482
On November 03 2016 04:12 Little-Chimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 04:07 Rebs wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:05 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:02 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:41 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/lisabloom/status/793880513018785792

And we sort of all knew this was coming. That case was filed months ago. There was a time when having a pending child rape case that wasn't instantly dismissed as fake would have doomed any candidate.


Wow I hope this gets all the headlines.


I dunno man Donald is a dumb ass but I don't see him as someone who rapes teenagers. I think this one will smell fishy to most people without more evidence.


you're right, he just grabs em by the pussy...


I'm not denying he uses his fame to get into sexual assault territory, but usually people that rape kids are really weird sexually repressed people.

Why would someone who can bang supermodels rape a 13 year old? My gut tells me I can't convict him of this without more facts. Especially with this timing.

Except the part where he stated on a live talk show that he walked into change rooms to see 16 year olds naked?
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 02 2016 19:14 GMT
#117483
On November 03 2016 04:12 Little-Chimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 04:07 Rebs wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:05 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:02 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:41 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/lisabloom/status/793880513018785792

And we sort of all knew this was coming. That case was filed months ago. There was a time when having a pending child rape case that wasn't instantly dismissed as fake would have doomed any candidate.


Wow I hope this gets all the headlines.


I dunno man Donald is a dumb ass but I don't see him as someone who rapes teenagers. I think this one will smell fishy to most people without more evidence.


you're right, he just grabs em by the pussy...


I'm not denying he uses his fame to get into sexual assault territory, but usually people that rape kids are really weird sexually repressed people.

Why would someone who can bang supermodels rape a 13 year old? My gut tells me I can't convict him of this without more facts. Especially with this timing.

I mean, why would anyone bang a 13 year old? There's a pretty good explanation, it's just not very pleasant to think that one of the presidential candidates has those leanings.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-02 19:15:53
November 02 2016 19:15 GMT
#117484
On November 03 2016 04:10 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 04:05 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:02 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:41 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/lisabloom/status/793880513018785792

And we sort of all knew this was coming. That case was filed months ago. There was a time when having a pending child rape case that wasn't instantly dismissed as fake would have doomed any candidate.


Wow I hope this gets all the headlines.


I dunno man Donald is a dumb ass but I don't see him as someone who rapes teenagers. I think this one will smell fishy to most people without more evidence.

He already admitted that he sexually assaults women and this case has been building for some time. The court documents are out there. The only reason the news media has not covered it was that they didn’t’ know the plaintiff’s name.

Weirdly enough, this thing has been out there for 4 months and the Trump camp as not tried to discredit it or find out who filed it. They have just sort of ignored it and push all the deadlines until after the election.


Then there are the reports of people who say they attended Trump parties and recall things like very young girls being there. I mean who knows for sure, but it's not like this is some out-of-left-field sort of thing. There's a lot of tidbits that build a pretty damning impression.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 02 2016 19:16 GMT
#117485
On November 03 2016 04:12 sertas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 04:10 Plansix wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:05 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:02 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:41 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/lisabloom/status/793880513018785792

And we sort of all knew this was coming. That case was filed months ago. There was a time when having a pending child rape case that wasn't instantly dismissed as fake would have doomed any candidate.


Wow I hope this gets all the headlines.


I dunno man Donald is a dumb ass but I don't see him as someone who rapes teenagers. I think this one will smell fishy to most people without more evidence.

He already admitted that he sexually assaults women and this case has been building for some time. The court documents are out there. The only reason the news media has not covered it was that they didn’t’ know the plaintiff’s name.

Weirdly enough, this thing has been out there for 4 months and the Trump camp as not tried to discredit it or find out who filed it. They have just sort of ignored it and push all the deadlines until after the election.


well you cant trust all this shit. Any random woman can claim trump has sexually assaulted them for some nice attention it happens every fucking time some famous person is accused of sexual assault suddenly 50 woman out of nowhere come forward and say the same thing

Ok, let’s trust 50% of the claims and 100% of what he said out loud.

He has still sexually assaulted numerous women and busted into changing rooms with teenage girls changing. He freely admitted doing both.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
November 02 2016 19:18 GMT
#117486
On November 03 2016 04:12 sertas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 04:10 Plansix wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:05 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:02 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:41 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/lisabloom/status/793880513018785792

And we sort of all knew this was coming. That case was filed months ago. There was a time when having a pending child rape case that wasn't instantly dismissed as fake would have doomed any candidate.


Wow I hope this gets all the headlines.


I dunno man Donald is a dumb ass but I don't see him as someone who rapes teenagers. I think this one will smell fishy to most people without more evidence.

He already admitted that he sexually assaults women and this case has been building for some time. The court documents are out there. The only reason the news media has not covered it was that they didn’t’ know the plaintiff’s name.

Weirdly enough, this thing has been out there for 4 months and the Trump camp as not tried to discredit it or find out who filed it. They have just sort of ignored it and push all the deadlines until after the election.


well you cant trust all this shit. Any random woman can claim trump has sexually assaulted them for some nice attention it happens every fucking time some famous person is accused of sexual assault suddenly 50 woman out of nowhere come forward and say the same thing


Trump himself bragged about sexually assaulting women, on tape.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
November 02 2016 19:24 GMT
#117487
On November 03 2016 04:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 04:12 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:07 Rebs wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:05 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:02 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:41 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/lisabloom/status/793880513018785792

And we sort of all knew this was coming. That case was filed months ago. There was a time when having a pending child rape case that wasn't instantly dismissed as fake would have doomed any candidate.


Wow I hope this gets all the headlines.


I dunno man Donald is a dumb ass but I don't see him as someone who rapes teenagers. I think this one will smell fishy to most people without more evidence.


you're right, he just grabs em by the pussy...


I'm not denying he uses his fame to get into sexual assault territory, but usually people that rape kids are really weird sexually repressed people.

Why would someone who can bang supermodels rape a 13 year old? My gut tells me I can't convict him of this without more facts. Especially with this timing.

Except the part where he stated on a live talk show that he walked into change rooms to see 16 year olds naked?


Making shit hyperbole up only makes you look stupid. He said on a talk show that he would walk in on adult contests such as miss universe.

People from teen beauty contests (ages 14 to 19) have separately claimed he has walked in on them too. I believe them tbh especially with 18 and 19 year olds there but still doesn't equate to sexual assault of a 13 year old at a party.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 02 2016 19:25 GMT
#117488
trump is basically a 4chan /pol/ poster. 13? too old
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 02 2016 19:27 GMT
#117489
On November 03 2016 04:24 Little-Chimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 04:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:12 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:07 Rebs wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:05 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:02 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:41 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/lisabloom/status/793880513018785792

And we sort of all knew this was coming. That case was filed months ago. There was a time when having a pending child rape case that wasn't instantly dismissed as fake would have doomed any candidate.


Wow I hope this gets all the headlines.


I dunno man Donald is a dumb ass but I don't see him as someone who rapes teenagers. I think this one will smell fishy to most people without more evidence.


you're right, he just grabs em by the pussy...


I'm not denying he uses his fame to get into sexual assault territory, but usually people that rape kids are really weird sexually repressed people.

Why would someone who can bang supermodels rape a 13 year old? My gut tells me I can't convict him of this without more facts. Especially with this timing.

Except the part where he stated on a live talk show that he walked into change rooms to see 16 year olds naked?


Making shit hyperbole up only makes you look stupid. He said on a talk show that he would walk in on adult contests such as miss universe.

People from teen beauty contests (ages 14 to 19) have separately claimed he has walked in on them too. I believe them tbh especially with 18 and 19 year olds there but still doesn't equate to sexual assault of a 13 year old at a party.

Why would you doubt it without at least looking at the evidence first? Sexual assault is just one step away from rape and Trump freely admits to sexually assaulting women.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
November 02 2016 19:34 GMT
#117490
I'd prefer to have formal charges/court documents to review. Or at least a civil case that's made it part way in.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
November 02 2016 19:38 GMT
#117491
On November 03 2016 04:27 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 04:24 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:12 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:07 Rebs wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:05 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:02 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:41 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/lisabloom/status/793880513018785792

And we sort of all knew this was coming. That case was filed months ago. There was a time when having a pending child rape case that wasn't instantly dismissed as fake would have doomed any candidate.


Wow I hope this gets all the headlines.


I dunno man Donald is a dumb ass but I don't see him as someone who rapes teenagers. I think this one will smell fishy to most people without more evidence.


you're right, he just grabs em by the pussy...


I'm not denying he uses his fame to get into sexual assault territory, but usually people that rape kids are really weird sexually repressed people.

Why would someone who can bang supermodels rape a 13 year old? My gut tells me I can't convict him of this without more facts. Especially with this timing.

Except the part where he stated on a live talk show that he walked into change rooms to see 16 year olds naked?


Making shit hyperbole up only makes you look stupid. He said on a talk show that he would walk in on adult contests such as miss universe.

People from teen beauty contests (ages 14 to 19) have separately claimed he has walked in on them too. I believe them tbh especially with 18 and 19 year olds there but still doesn't equate to sexual assault of a 13 year old at a party.

Why would you doubt it without at least looking at the evidence first? Sexual assault is just one step away from rape and Trump freely admits to sexually assaulting women.


Do you actually think Trump abusing his fame and money to grope/kiss a women before getting rejected (where he then backed off per his story) is ONE step from child rape?

I'd say it's a pretty big leap, not completely unfounded since he has teen pageants but definitely one worth investigating and not immediately convicting. Also holding back a child rape case until 1 week before election? you're just looking for a convenient bomb here to drop on Donald IMO.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 02 2016 19:39 GMT
#117492
This Jane Doe thing is DoA.
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
November 02 2016 19:39 GMT
#117493
That rape case has been out there a long time it just hardly got any coverage.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
November 02 2016 19:42 GMT
#117494
On November 03 2016 04:11 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 04:02 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:41 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/lisabloom/status/793880513018785792

And we sort of all knew this was coming. That case was filed months ago. There was a time when having a pending child rape case that wasn't instantly dismissed as fake would have doomed any candidate.


Wow I hope this gets all the headlines.

Yawn

Show nested quote +
Lawsuits accusing Donald Trump of sexually assaulting a child in the 1990s appear to have been orchestrated by an eccentric anti-Trump campaigner with a record of making outlandish claims about celebrities.

Norm Lubow, a former producer on the Jerry Springer TV show, has previously been involved with disputed allegations that OJ Simpson bought illegal drugs on the day Simpson’s wife was murdered, and that Kurt Cobain’s widow had the Nirvana frontman killed.

Court filings in California and New York against Trump, purportedly on behalf of a woman using the name Katie Johnson, have in recent weeks alleged that the presumptive Republican presidential nominee raped Johnson when she was 13. Trump vehemently denies the allegations.

theguardian

Pretty shitty Hail Mary from the Clinton campaign, picking up a rape case that was thrown out twice 6 days before the election. Jerry Springer has more legitimacy at this point.


In the years prior to 1992, the year of Bill Clinton's election, it was some of his political enemies who tried to get Juanita Broaddrick to come forward sooner.

Oh and there's also this thing where Donald went on Howard Stern and said he walks in on teenagers changing in their dressing room.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 02 2016 19:42 GMT
#117495
We will see. I can see it not getting coverage and I can also see it getting all the coverage. Trump has to know who this woman is at this point and they have not outed her or attempted to discredit the case to date.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
November 02 2016 19:47 GMT
#117496
This woman also has a witness who was part of the Jeffrey Epstein sex operation, and involved in those legal cases, who attested in an affidavit to seeing this woman get raped by both of them. This case is part of Epstein's operation which Trump is known to have been involved in.

"I'm gonna be dating her in ten years, can you believe it?"
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
November 02 2016 19:49 GMT
#117497
On November 03 2016 04:38 Little-Chimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 04:27 Plansix wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:24 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:13 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:12 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:07 Rebs wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:05 Little-Chimp wrote:
On November 03 2016 04:02 Doodsmack wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:41 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/lisabloom/status/793880513018785792

And we sort of all knew this was coming. That case was filed months ago. There was a time when having a pending child rape case that wasn't instantly dismissed as fake would have doomed any candidate.


Wow I hope this gets all the headlines.


I dunno man Donald is a dumb ass but I don't see him as someone who rapes teenagers. I think this one will smell fishy to most people without more evidence.


you're right, he just grabs em by the pussy...


I'm not denying he uses his fame to get into sexual assault territory, but usually people that rape kids are really weird sexually repressed people.

Why would someone who can bang supermodels rape a 13 year old? My gut tells me I can't convict him of this without more facts. Especially with this timing.

Except the part where he stated on a live talk show that he walked into change rooms to see 16 year olds naked?


Making shit hyperbole up only makes you look stupid. He said on a talk show that he would walk in on adult contests such as miss universe.

People from teen beauty contests (ages 14 to 19) have separately claimed he has walked in on them too. I believe them tbh especially with 18 and 19 year olds there but still doesn't equate to sexual assault of a 13 year old at a party.

Why would you doubt it without at least looking at the evidence first? Sexual assault is just one step away from rape and Trump freely admits to sexually assaulting women.


Do you actually think Trump abusing his fame and money to grope/kiss a women before getting rejected (where he then backed off per his story) is ONE step from child rape?

I'd say it's a pretty big leap, not completely unfounded since he has teen pageants but definitely one worth investigating and not immediately convicting. Also holding back a child rape case until 1 week before election? you're just looking for a convenient bomb here to drop on Donald IMO.

When you get down to it, the difference between sexually assaulting a young adult and sexually assaulting a child is asking their age first.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5483 Posts
November 02 2016 19:50 GMT
#117498
On November 03 2016 04:42 Plansix wrote:
We will see. I can see it not getting coverage and I can also see it getting all the coverage. Trump has to know who this woman is at this point and they have not outed her or attempted to discredit the case to date.

Every time he goes after or reciprocates shit against someone, we hear repeatedly how he's unhinged, undisciplined, unfocused, has no self-control, and so forth. Is someone claiming you're a child rapist the one time you're justified in being more than silent?
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42430 Posts
November 02 2016 19:51 GMT
#117499
On November 03 2016 04:39 xDaunt wrote:
This Jane Doe thing is DoA.

It's no longer a Jane Doe thing.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 02 2016 19:56 GMT
#117500
On November 03 2016 04:50 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 04:42 Plansix wrote:
We will see. I can see it not getting coverage and I can also see it getting all the coverage. Trump has to know who this woman is at this point and they have not outed her or attempted to discredit the case to date.

Every time he goes after or reciprocates shit against someone, we hear repeatedly how he's unhinged, undisciplined, unfocused, has no self-control, and so forth. Is someone claiming you're a child rapist the one time you're justified in being more than silent?

Do you know why that is?
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