US Politics Mega-thread - Page 5737

On October 22 2016 18:51 LegalLord wrote:
Trump was much cleverer and funnier in the primary season than in the general. He lost his touch somewhere along the way.

On October 22 2016 16:23 plasmidghost wrote:

Reuters
This is just one poll of course, but I'm legitimately surprised that he gained despite his rather poor debate performance. Other polls show him narrowing the gap a moderate amount, but I don't think he'll be able to get within 4 points on average before the election unless some huge campaign-ending information gets released.
The stat I bolded is crazy, that means at least 3% of Americans (unless I can't math) believe he committed sexual assault and are voting for him.

Liberal groups and activists are assembling opposition research-style dossiers of the most dismissive comments in the WikiLeaks emails about icons of their movement like Clinton’s Democratic primary rival Bernie Sanders, and their stances on trade, Wall Street reform, energy and climate change. And some liberal activists are vowing to use the email fodder to oppose Clinton policy proposals or appointments deemed insufficiently progressive.

“We were already kind of suspicious of where Hillary’s instincts were, but now we see that she is who we thought she was,” said one influential liberal Democratic operative. “The honeymoon is going to be tight and small and maybe nonexistent,” the operative said.

The emails, which also show Clinton praising Wall Street in a manner that’s discordant with her tough campaign rhetoric, have made many progressives less inclined to give Clinton the benefit of the doubt on nominees with more centrist backgrounds or ties to Wall Street, said the operative. “Some of the first fights that she is going to be dealing with are going to be personnel fights like about who she’s going to pick for Treasury, Securities and Exchange Commission, Education and Labor, and for regulatory agencies like the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and the Federal Trade Commission. Progressives are going to be on guard.”

The WikiLeaks revelations have not influenced the hierarchy around Clinton or her feelings about trusted advisers like Podesta, Sullivan and Tanden, according to a source close to the campaign. Podesta and Sullivan helped Clinton prep for Wednesday’s debate here and traveled aboard the campaign plane with her to the debate, while Tanden is still listed as a co-chair of Clinton’s transition team.

But it could pose a major problem for Clinton’s efforts to fill out a transition team and a prospective administration if Sullivan, Tanden, Podesta or other close advisers became widely seen on the left as unwilling to work in good faith with the Democratic Party’s left flank, which largely aligned behind Sanders during his bitter Democratic primary campaign against Clinton.

On October 22 2016 12:44 oBlade wrote:
He did quite well, if you go by all the people laughing. Only lost the crowd for the about 3 minutes when he was going for the jugular. Hillary didn't have the same kind of highs, whether because she had to go after or whatever reason. But nobody was thrown under any bus, it's a friendly fun dinner.

I don't want it getting out of this room but my opponent is an impressive fellow in many ways. Political opponents can have a little trouble seeing the best in each other. But I have had a few glimpses of this man at his best. And I admire his great skill, energy, and determination.

It's not for nothing that he has inspired so many folks in his own party and beyond. Senator Obama talks about making history and he has made quite a bit of it already. There was a time when the mere invitation of an African-American citizen to dine at the White House was taken as an outrage and an insult in many corridors.

Hillary is so corrupt she got kicked off the Watergate Commission. How corrupt do you have to be to get kicked off the Watergate Commission? Pretty corrupt

On October 22 2016 20:01 Probe1 wrote:

It doesn't meant 3% of Americans as in 3% of all Americans.

It means 3% of whoever the hell they called. Media polls are usually off by pretty big margins. Sometimes it's deliberate yeah. But really it's who is picking up these unsolicited phone calls from a marketer who wants to ask some questions?

They're not exactly the same as people who will vote in 17 days.

On October 22 2016 16:23 plasmidghost wrote:

Reuters
This is just one poll of course, but I'm legitimately surprised that he gained despite his rather poor debate performance. Other polls show him narrowing the gap a moderate amount, but I don't think he'll be able to get within 4 points on average before the election unless some huge campaign-ending information gets released.
The stat I bolded is crazy, that means at least 3% of Americans (unless I can't math) believe he committed sexual assault and are voting for him.

On October 22 2016 20:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:


Especially considering how many times Trump has flat-out lied about the importance of the Bible and religion in his life. I'm not religious but I'd facepalm every time he tried pandering to the religious right. He's an awful hypocrite.

On October 22 2016 20:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:

He did quite well? He got fucking booed, it made the headlines in the whole world.

Hey, here is an exercise for you : see if you can spot the difference:


and

On October 23 2016 01:17 oBlade wrote:

He also got laughs, applause, whistles, and cheers. You're caught in a vortex. It's a lighthearted dinner, not everything is the latest chapter in "lol Drumpf BTFO."

On October 23 2016 01:21 Nevuk wrote:
your heart just isn't in this anymore