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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
October 11 2016 15:23 GMT
#110021
On October 12 2016 00:07 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 00:03 KwarK wrote:
Things with a 25% chance to happen do happen, 1 in 4 times.


I think a lot of people struggle with this. Trump with a 17% chance of winning means he can win.


They 100% do struggle with it.

People call out Nate Silver all the time when his 'predictions' are wrong when he gives someone anything less than 50% odds then it goes that way (like the Trump nomination).
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
October 11 2016 15:23 GMT
#110022
On October 12 2016 00:07 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 00:03 KwarK wrote:
Things with a 25% chance to happen do happen, 1 in 4 times.


I think a lot of people struggle with this. Trump with a 17% chance of winning means he can win.

basicly this. Trump has a 16% chance to win according to 538 right now, what does that mean in popular vote?
Hillary Clinton 49.1%
Donald Trump 43.1%

and 25% chance to win is quite a lot more than 16% AND the pic says the chances went down by 17% meaning it was at 42% the day before that?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 15:25:46
October 11 2016 15:25 GMT
#110023
More people need to play Roguelikes :D. Playing a character for several hours then losing them on a <5% chance roll will, over time, teach you just how often small odds happen when you run enough trials.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 11 2016 15:25 GMT
#110024
Maine Gov. Paul LePage (R) praised Donald Trump as a leader who would "show some authoritarian power" on Tuesday, even as he slammed President Barack Obama as an "autocrat."

"We need a Donald Trump to show some authoritarian power in our country and bring back the rule of law," LePage said in an interview with Maine radio station WVOM.

He went on to compare Trump to Obama, decrying the President as "an autocrat" who ignores Congress and "just does it on his own."

As Maine's Sun Journal newspaper noted, the dictionary defines "autocrat" as a person who behaves in an authoritarian manner.

LePage was seemingly unconcerned by Trump’s comments about forcing himself on women in a 2005 video that resurfaced last week, but conceded that Trump is not the "ideal guy I'd want my daughter going after.”

Lauren LePage, the Maine governor’s daughter, was hired in August by the Trump campaign as state coalitions director.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 11 2016 15:28 GMT
#110025
On October 12 2016 00:25 Logo wrote:
More people need to play Roguelikes :D. Playing a character for several hours then losing them on a <5% chance roll will, over time, teach you just how often small odds happen when you run enough trials.

Probabilities of an event that happens only once are a wee bit different even in theory than something you can run many times in a row. In this specific case it's not really random chance but more so a measure of the degree of belief based on the data and underlying assumptions.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 11 2016 15:28 GMT
#110026
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 15:30:15
October 11 2016 15:29 GMT
#110027
LePage is just a total wacko (and the product of people splitting their votes to a third party, depressingly enough). Not surprised he doesn't know anything about anything.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 15:31:00
October 11 2016 15:29 GMT
#110028
If Trump becomes president, is he going to do McCarthy-esque purging of the GOP or something?

On October 12 2016 00:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Maine Gov. Paul LePage (R) praised Donald Trump as a leader who would "show some authoritarian power" on Tuesday, even as he slammed President Barack Obama as an "autocrat."

"We need a Donald Trump to show some authoritarian power in our country and bring back the rule of law," LePage said in an interview with Maine radio station WVOM.

He went on to compare Trump to Obama, decrying the President as "an autocrat" who ignores Congress and "just does it on his own."
As Maine's Sun Journal newspaper noted, the dictionary defines "autocrat" as a person who behaves in an authoritarian manner.

LePage was seemingly unconcerned by Trump’s comments about forcing himself on women in a 2005 video that resurfaced last week, but conceded that Trump is not the "ideal guy I'd want my daughter going after.”

Lauren LePage, the Maine governor’s daughter, was hired in August by the Trump campaign as state coalitions director.


Source

In a Congress that's never been as divisive and incapable of compromise and cooperation?
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43350 Posts
October 11 2016 15:30 GMT
#110029
This latest Trump meltdown is a thing of beauty. Trump deciding that he can now run his campaign and ignore conventional Republican politicians is going to be epic.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 11 2016 15:31 GMT
#110030
Someone really should keep Trump on a Twitter-free leash.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18158 Posts
October 11 2016 15:32 GMT
#110031
On October 12 2016 00:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Maine Gov. Paul LePage (R) praised Donald Trump as a leader who would "show some authoritarian power" on Tuesday, even as he slammed President Barack Obama as an "autocrat."

"We need a Donald Trump to show some authoritarian power in our country and bring back the rule of law," LePage said in an interview with Maine radio station WVOM.

He went on to compare Trump to Obama, decrying the President as "an autocrat" who ignores Congress and "just does it on his own."

As Maine's Sun Journal newspaper noted, the dictionary defines "autocrat" as a person who behaves in an authoritarian manner.

LePage was seemingly unconcerned by Trump’s comments about forcing himself on women in a 2005 video that resurfaced last week, but conceded that Trump is not the "ideal guy I'd want my daughter going after.”

Lauren LePage, the Maine governor’s daughter, was hired in August by the Trump campaign as state coalitions director.


Source

Do these people even listen to themselves?

We need a real autocrat to take over from this disgusting guy we have now, who is a real autocrat, I tell you!
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
October 11 2016 15:32 GMT
#110032
Robert Costa has been A+ in his coverage of this election.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 11 2016 15:33 GMT
#110033
On October 12 2016 00:31 LegalLord wrote:
Someone really should keep Trump on a Twitter-free leash.

You assume that he listens to anyone or they have the ability to do that. They can’t even take his phone away. That is how little self restraint the man has.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18158 Posts
October 11 2016 15:33 GMT
#110034
On October 12 2016 00:28 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/tamarakeithNPR/status/785861346919342081

Trump meltdowns are invariably hilarious. The only thing that could have made this better were if this happened at 3am again.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
October 11 2016 15:35 GMT
#110035
On October 12 2016 00:33 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 00:31 LegalLord wrote:
Someone really should keep Trump on a Twitter-free leash.

You assume that he listens to anyone or they have the ability to do that. They can’t even take his phone away. That is how little self restraint the man has.

Being surrounded by yes men his entire life, I doubt he knows what self-control really is.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
October 11 2016 15:37 GMT
#110036
On October 12 2016 00:31 LegalLord wrote:
Someone really should keep Trump on a Twitter-free leash.


Conway was doing so for a while I think-that three-week stretch where the polls narrowed. But I think Bannon has completely taken her place in the Trump Tower castle and Bannon wants Trump to be Trump.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
October 11 2016 15:39 GMT
#110037
On October 12 2016 00:37 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 00:31 LegalLord wrote:
Someone really should keep Trump on a Twitter-free leash.


Conway was doing so for a while I think-that three-week stretch where the polls narrowed. But I think Bannon has completely taken her place in the Trump Tower castle and Bannon wants Trump to be Trump.


I think Bannon wants Trump to be a martyr and to yell about the alt-right cause as much as possible.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 15:42:07
October 11 2016 15:39 GMT
#110038
On October 12 2016 00:00 Plansix wrote:
My favorite part is that you don’t provide links, so we can’t even check where that came from. The polls showed the vote to be close for the Brexit, even if people didn’t believe it. And most of the predictions for how the election will go are based on polling data.

The website is https://electionbettingodds.com
On October 12 2016 00:06 kwizach wrote:
Do you want to bet money on the result of the presidential election?

I think you have a gambling problem.
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 15:40:54
October 11 2016 15:40 GMT
#110039
Wow, Trump tweeted that Democrats are more loyal than Republicans (after a standard jab about Bernie rigging). Trying to build those bipartisan bridges early, I guess.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 11 2016 15:41 GMT
#110040
Feels like at this point Conway has given up on winning and is trying to extract as much $$$ as she can while burnishing herself as the ultimate mercenary political operative and spin doctor who will say whatever for whomever.
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