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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 10 2016 00:15 GMT
#108301
On October 10 2016 09:12 On_Slaught wrote:
Apparently one of the women Trump is using is the person who was supposedly raped by the person who Clinton got a not guilty ruling for? Dredging pretty deep in the sewer if he has to resort to something as asinine as that.

Yeah, going for something with an existing legal ruling highlights how desperate he is right now. I think he'll have an explosive first 30 minutes and then fizzle again.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
October 10 2016 00:16 GMT
#108302
On October 10 2016 09:14 biology]major wrote:
I like his move, forcing media coverage even when they don't want to.


Media coverage has all but ended his presidential run over the last 3 weeks. I feel like drawing attention isn't the play. Better to lay low since everything he's done has blown up in his face lately.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 10 2016 00:16 GMT
#108303
Trump is doubling down on the Clinton is a rapist thing pretty hard given hes being sued for raping a 13 year old and theres a ton of new stories about him grabbing women by the pussy coming out.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
JW_DTLA
Profile Joined December 2015
242 Posts
October 10 2016 00:16 GMT
#108304
On October 10 2016 09:14 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 08:57 JW_DTLA wrote:
On October 10 2016 08:53 biology]major wrote:
anyone else seeing trump w/ bill's accusers?


Trump just legitimized any and all attacks against him based on his past history of sexual assault. All the lawsuits. All the settled cases. The current lawsuit. Any leaked tape of him describing his love of assault. The media was correct to make this the top story and Trump wants it to be the top story all the way to the election.

Nobody that we would describe as hashtag never Trump thought the attacks were beyond the pale to begin with. What he's doing is hitting back. It's also a distraction from email/speech leaks. With the specter of Kaine at the VP debate people have figured out this is the Clinton campaign's entire strategy. They and the media together have steered the entire election focus into this narrative about boogey-Trump, themselves moving away from discussions of policy - such discussions are important for the American people (if not for their ratings). The reason is simple, Trump has no political record, so these are the substitute lines of attack. That he was a rich famous playboy and celebrity. It's an asymmetrical election and his challenge has always been how to wrestle back some control of the conversation. Tonight would be a good night.


Okay. Well. Trump has consciously chosen to make this election a re-litigation of the Bill charges of the 90s by having this press event. No more email/speech leaks discussions anymore. This is all Bill v. Trump all the way to November.
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 00:22:04
October 10 2016 00:19 GMT
#108305
On October 10 2016 09:16 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 09:14 biology]major wrote:
I like his move, forcing media coverage even when they don't want to.


Media coverage has all but ended his presidential run over the last 3 weeks. I feel like drawing attention isn't the play. Better to lay low since everything he's done has blown up in his face lately.


Well now he doesn't even have to bring it up(he will though). Bill clintons reputation goes down the gutter before the debate even starts. This is really a offense against the media, not so much against HRC.
Question.?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 10 2016 00:25 GMT
#108306


2016 collective fever dream.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 10 2016 00:26 GMT
#108307
Here's the CSPAN stream link :


They use constant split screen to see reactions of both candidates, and last debate some people said it was the most stable stream. YMMV
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 10 2016 00:27 GMT
#108308
On October 10 2016 09:19 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 09:16 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On October 10 2016 09:14 biology]major wrote:
I like his move, forcing media coverage even when they don't want to.


Media coverage has all but ended his presidential run over the last 3 weeks. I feel like drawing attention isn't the play. Better to lay low since everything he's done has blown up in his face lately.


Well now he doesn't even have to bring it up(he will though). Bill clintons reputation goes down the gutter before the debate even starts. This is really a offense against the media, not so much against HRC.

And it's going to fail. The press did their job and the public knows it, no matter how Trump whines about it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 10 2016 00:28 GMT
#108309
On October 10 2016 09:27 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 09:19 biology]major wrote:
On October 10 2016 09:16 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On October 10 2016 09:14 biology]major wrote:
I like his move, forcing media coverage even when they don't want to.


Media coverage has all but ended his presidential run over the last 3 weeks. I feel like drawing attention isn't the play. Better to lay low since everything he's done has blown up in his face lately.


Well now he doesn't even have to bring it up(he will though). Bill clintons reputation goes down the gutter before the debate even starts. This is really a offense against the media, not so much against HRC.

And it's going to fail. The press did their job and the public knows it, no matter how Trump whines about it.


I never saw the 90s so this will be interesting. I have no idea half of this information so it will be a learning experience for me.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 00:40:35
October 10 2016 00:29 GMT
#108310
On October 10 2016 09:27 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 09:19 biology]major wrote:
On October 10 2016 09:16 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On October 10 2016 09:14 biology]major wrote:
I like his move, forcing media coverage even when they don't want to.


Media coverage has all but ended his presidential run over the last 3 weeks. I feel like drawing attention isn't the play. Better to lay low since everything he's done has blown up in his face lately.


Well now he doesn't even have to bring it up(he will though). Bill clintons reputation goes down the gutter before the debate even starts. This is really a offense against the media, not so much against HRC.

And it's going to fail. The press did their job and the public knows it, no matter how Trump whines about it.


This is correct. Pointing out Bill only makes Hillary look sympathetic and Trump look worse. Trump is an idiot for thinking that helps him out.

The strim I use to watch the debates is using the infowars strim for memes and I'm getting brain cancer.

Apparently Hillary is against vetting any of the refugees at all. Hmm that's weird. I'm pretty sure we vet them already but she wants to just not vet any of them at all anymore period. The more you know I guess!
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 10 2016 00:40 GMT
#108311
On October 10 2016 09:28 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 09:27 Plansix wrote:
On October 10 2016 09:19 biology]major wrote:
On October 10 2016 09:16 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On October 10 2016 09:14 biology]major wrote:
I like his move, forcing media coverage even when they don't want to.


Media coverage has all but ended his presidential run over the last 3 weeks. I feel like drawing attention isn't the play. Better to lay low since everything he's done has blown up in his face lately.


Well now he doesn't even have to bring it up(he will though). Bill clintons reputation goes down the gutter before the debate even starts. This is really a offense against the media, not so much against HRC.

And it's going to fail. The press did their job and the public knows it, no matter how Trump whines about it.


I never saw the 90s so this will be interesting. I have no idea half of this information so it will be a learning experience for me.

Bills issues with women are relevant to Bill and it is hard to tell exactly how much of it is true. But bringing all that up will only make it seem like Trump can't handle Clinton and wants to focus on her husband. Which is oddly fitting considering how sexist he is.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
October 10 2016 00:46 GMT
#108312
For the love of god, ask about why she lied about her emails, and the Clinton foundation. I'm all for asking trump tough questions, but there's another candidate too.
Question.?
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6655 Posts
October 10 2016 00:46 GMT
#108313
CPD said they made more time for inter-candidate bickering? I wasn't really paying attention.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46643 Posts
October 10 2016 00:47 GMT
#108314
On October 10 2016 09:46 biology]major wrote:
For the love of god, ask about why she lied about her emails, and the Clinton foundation. I'm all for asking trump tough questions, but there's another candidate too.


She's been asked about her e-mails a thousand times and has apologized (and did nothing illegal, just careless), and the Clinton Foundation has an overall great reputation (especially compared to the Trump Foundation).
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Netscape9
Profile Joined March 2015
United States139 Posts
October 10 2016 00:47 GMT
#108315
Honestly curious to see what happens if Trump, the audience or the moderator bring up the Clinton rape scandal.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 10 2016 00:50 GMT
#108316
I wonder if Trump even remembers that he said this.



Idiot. The man is a walking shit stain.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
October 10 2016 00:50 GMT
#108317
On October 10 2016 09:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 09:46 biology]major wrote:
For the love of god, ask about why she lied about her emails, and the Clinton foundation. I'm all for asking trump tough questions, but there's another candidate too.


She's been asked about her e-mails a thousand times and has apologized (and did nothing illegal, just careless), and the Clinton Foundation has an overall great reputation (especially compared to the Trump Foundation).


No about her lying to the public vs FBI. I've heard her explanation for her email use. What will happen to cf once she becomes president?
Question.?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 10 2016 00:50 GMT
#108318
On October 10 2016 09:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 09:46 biology]major wrote:
For the love of god, ask about why she lied about her emails, and the Clinton foundation. I'm all for asking trump tough questions, but there's another candidate too.


She's been asked about her e-mails a thousand times and has apologized (and did nothing illegal, just careless), and the Clinton Foundation has an overall great reputation (especially compared to the Trump Foundation).

Those questions have been asked. I don't know why people expect them to be asked again.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Netscape9
Profile Joined March 2015
United States139 Posts
October 10 2016 00:51 GMT
#108319
On October 10 2016 09:50 Plansix wrote:
I wonder if Trump even remembers that he said this.

https://twitter.com/farai/status/785279890736242688

Idiot. The man is a walking shit stain.


Hillary won't be able to make an ad about this though, she wants the rape accusations to go away. Making an attack ad on Trump's hypocrisy will only hurt her.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46643 Posts
October 10 2016 00:52 GMT
#108320
On October 10 2016 09:50 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 09:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 10 2016 09:46 biology]major wrote:
For the love of god, ask about why she lied about her emails, and the Clinton foundation. I'm all for asking trump tough questions, but there's another candidate too.


She's been asked about her e-mails a thousand times and has apologized (and did nothing illegal, just careless), and the Clinton Foundation has an overall great reputation (especially compared to the Trump Foundation).


No about her lying to the public vs FBI. I've heard her explanation for her email use. What will happen to cf once she becomes president?


Unless the answer is "Directly fund Putin and porn", I don't think the answer is going to really matter.

+ Show Spoiler +
Although if that's her answer, she might actually steal some Trump supporters' votes...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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