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On September 21 2016 04:16 LegalLord wrote:
I sometimes wonder if TL has any actual shills - not as an insult, not used to call someone out, but people who are actually paid to push a specific position. I know a few low content posters who I'm pretty sure were genuine paid shills. But you can never tell if it's really so or if you're just being a jerk to a shitty and/or outspoken person.
My guess is that shills are less common than most people think, and pretty much nonexistent on smaller forums like TL. People tend to see shills everywhere because they can't imagine that anyone would have a different opinion than theirs.
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On September 21 2016 04:14 Plansix wrote:
This is going to bother me, I will need to travel back in time when I get home. It wasn’t as quality as the truther who believed Trump was going to make America safe for white people.(word for word) It subtle bait that lasted over a couple months and several bans.
Bans? You don't mean Testie, right? Guy I was thinking of came before him.
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On September 21 2016 02:11 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 02:08 Jaaaaasper wrote:On September 21 2016 02:03 farvacola wrote:Here's a controversial notion from this liberal: American schools don't do nearly enough indoctrination as it is  Here's another one from a liberal. American schools are a fox news teir echo chamber with only left to far left wing opinions becoming wide spread. If American colleges weren't so left wing slanted, we wouldn't have Bernie Sanders or Jill Stein even close to relevant. What evidence is this opinion based on? Most of the people who make Facebook-ish references to the liberal echo chamber on college campuses have either A) never been to college or B) had a really bad time in college because they have terrible notions. This is not to say that the academy isn't liberally biased, it definitely is, but the idea that campuses are "liberal echo chambers" ignores the likelihood that the vast majority of college graduates come out of the system never having encountered this echo chamber being posited.
I mean there is a fair amount of evidence that conservative professors get a lot less slack to talk politics than liberal ones,and safe spaces are defintly a liberal notion. Plus I've made the mistake of talking politics on campus a few times. I agree with the echo chamber, I just don't like being in one
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On September 21 2016 04:21 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 04:16 LegalLord wrote:
I sometimes wonder if TL has any actual shills - not as an insult, not used to call someone out, but people who are actually paid to push a specific position. I know a few low content posters who I'm pretty sure were genuine paid shills. But you can never tell if it's really so or if you're just being a jerk to a shitty and/or outspoken person. My guess is that shills are less common than most people think, and pretty much nonexistent on smaller forums like TL. People tend to see shills everywhere because they can't imagine that anyone would have a different opinion than theirs.
That being so, I have spent enough time around the internet to know what a genuine shill looks like (as opposed to an unpleasant person who disagrees with me), and a few people I have seen over the course of some of these discussions do very much resemble true shills.
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On September 21 2016 04:22 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 04:14 Plansix wrote:
This is going to bother me, I will need to travel back in time when I get home. It wasn’t as quality as the truther who believed Trump was going to make America safe for white people.(word for word) It subtle bait that lasted over a couple months and several bans. Bans? You don't mean Testie, right? Guy I was thinking of came before him.
Nah, this is before Testie graced us with his presence. I’ll dig into the past after work, because it is right on the edge of my memory.
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On September 21 2016 03:44 Mohdoo wrote:
Did reality is king used to post here for a while? I feel like we've seen this exact same posting style before. Was the guy named cowboy or something? I forget. Either way, we've seen this exact same personality and posting style before. Walk into the thread replying to every liberal poster with baiting 1 liners and downright dismissing of science. Can't tell if it is a ban dodger or just s common archetype coming out of Reddit lately.
Yeah let's not be reasonable and immediately go for the censorship.
Please that's not how a free society should function.
Every single points need to be argued and
To that genetic science dude, you should've absolutely opened with that line and then you immediately went for the long wall of text subliminal insults.
You could've saved A LOT of your time.
You should've posted studies to prove that "No, people do not have survival instincts.".
Because the basic funding principle of biology is evolutionary survival of the fittest.
So if you want to argue against that, go a ahead and I would like to educated.
And also thinking of ignoring Plansix because all he does is yell names.
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On September 21 2016 04:23 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 02:11 farvacola wrote:On September 21 2016 02:08 Jaaaaasper wrote:On September 21 2016 02:03 farvacola wrote:Here's a controversial notion from this liberal: American schools don't do nearly enough indoctrination as it is Here's another one from a liberal. American schools are a fox news teir echo chamber with only left to far left wing opinions becoming wide spread. If American colleges weren't so left wing slanted, we wouldn't have Bernie Sanders or Jill Stein even close to relevant. What evidence is this opinion based on? Most of the people who make Facebook-ish references to the liberal echo chamber on college campuses have either A) never been to college or B) had a really bad time in college because they have terrible notions. This is not to say that the academy isn't liberally biased, it definitely is, but the idea that campuses are "liberal echo chambers" ignores the likelihood that the vast majority of college graduates come out of the system never having encountered this echo chamber being posited. I mean there is a fair amount of evidence that conservative professors get a lot less slack to talk politics than liberal ones,and safe spaces are defintly a liberal notion. Plus I've made the mistake of talking politics on campus a few times. I agree with the echo chamber, I just don't like being in one
Again, there is actual evidence that the banking industry pays business schools to promote the deregulation of banking as economic orthodoxy. If you want to make the case that all the professors are working together to push a single position and indoctrinate their students, well, there is evidence for that. But they're not trying to indoctrinate their students into thinking that only white people can be racist or whatever.
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On September 21 2016 04:25 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 03:44 Mohdoo wrote:
Did reality is king used to post here for a while? I feel like we've seen this exact same posting style before. Was the guy named cowboy or something? I forget. Either way, we've seen this exact same personality and posting style before. Walk into the thread replying to every liberal poster with baiting 1 liners and downright dismissing of science. Can't tell if it is a ban dodger or just s common archetype coming out of Reddit lately. Yeah let's not be reasonable and immediately go for the censorship. Please that's not how a free society should function. Every single points need to be argued and To that genetic science dude, you should've absolutely opened with that line and then you immediately went for the long wall of text subliminal insults. You could've saved A LOT of your time. You should've posted studies to prove that "No, people do not have survival instincts.". Because the basic funding principle of biology is evolutionary survival of the fittest. So if you want to argue against that, go a ahead and I would like to educated. And also thinking of ignoring Plansix because all he does is yell names.
Please stop artificially making your post take up more of my screen than it needs to.
This is what your post could have been:
Yeah let's not be reasonable and immediately go for the censorship. Please that's not how a free society should function. Every single points need to be argued and to that genetic science dude, you should've absolutely opened with that line and then you immediately went for the long wall of text subliminal insults. You could've saved A LOT of your time. You should've posted studies to prove that "No, people do not have survival instincts.". Because the basic funding principle of biology is evolutionary survival of the fittest. So if you want to argue against that, go a ahead and I would like to educated. And also thinking of ignoring Plansix because all he does is yell names.
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On September 21 2016 04:25 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 04:22 Mohdoo wrote:On September 21 2016 04:14 Plansix wrote:
This is going to bother me, I will need to travel back in time when I get home. It wasn’t as quality as the truther who believed Trump was going to make America safe for white people.(word for word) It subtle bait that lasted over a couple months and several bans. Bans? You don't mean Testie, right? Guy I was thinking of came before him. Nah, this is before Testie graced us with his presence. I’ll dig into the past after work, because it is right on the edge of my memory.
Ravianna26?
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On September 21 2016 04:28 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 04:25 Plansix wrote:On September 21 2016 04:22 Mohdoo wrote:On September 21 2016 04:14 Plansix wrote:
This is going to bother me, I will need to travel back in time when I get home. It wasn’t as quality as the truther who believed Trump was going to make America safe for white people.(word for word) It subtle bait that lasted over a couple months and several bans. Bans? You don't mean Testie, right? Guy I was thinking of came before him. Nah, this is before Testie graced us with his presence. I’ll dig into the past after work, because it is right on the edge of my memory. Ravianna26?
To be honest, it rhymes or has strong alliteration with “Stumps for Trump”. It is why it is bothering me so much.
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On September 21 2016 04:28 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 04:25 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 21 2016 03:44 Mohdoo wrote:
Did reality is king used to post here for a while? I feel like we've seen this exact same posting style before. Was the guy named cowboy or something? I forget. Either way, we've seen this exact same personality and posting style before. Walk into the thread replying to every liberal poster with baiting 1 liners and downright dismissing of science. Can't tell if it is a ban dodger or just s common archetype coming out of Reddit lately. Yeah let's not be reasonable and immediately go for the censorship. Please that's not how a free society should function. Every single points need to be argued and To that genetic science dude, you should've absolutely opened with that line and then you immediately went for the long wall of text subliminal insults. You could've saved A LOT of your time. You should've posted studies to prove that "No, people do not have survival instincts.". Because the basic funding principle of biology is evolutionary survival of the fittest. So if you want to argue against that, go a ahead and I would like to educated. And also thinking of ignoring Plansix because all he does is yell names. Please stop artificially making your post take up more of my screen than it needs to. This is what your post could have been: Show nested quote +Yeah let's not be reasonable and immediately go for the censorship. Please that's not how a free society should function. Every single points need to be argued and to that genetic science dude, you should've absolutely opened with that line and then you immediately went for the long wall of text subliminal insults. You could've saved A LOT of your time. You should've posted studies to prove that "No, people do not have survival instincts.". Because the basic funding principle of biology is evolutionary survival of the fittest. So if you want to argue against that, go a ahead and I would like to educated. And also thinking of ignoring Plansix because all he does is yell names.
Well that's harder to read for me at least. I thought that we weren't suppose to post in long paragraphs.
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On September 21 2016 04:30 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 04:28 KwarK wrote:On September 21 2016 04:25 Plansix wrote:On September 21 2016 04:22 Mohdoo wrote:On September 21 2016 04:14 Plansix wrote:
This is going to bother me, I will need to travel back in time when I get home. It wasn’t as quality as the truther who believed Trump was going to make America safe for white people.(word for word) It subtle bait that lasted over a couple months and several bans. Bans? You don't mean Testie, right? Guy I was thinking of came before him. Nah, this is before Testie graced us with his presence. I’ll dig into the past after work, because it is right on the edge of my memory. Ravianna26? To be honest, it rhymes or has strong alliteration with “Stumps for Trump”. It is why it is bothering me so much.
You can look through the banlist to see if you can find him, I guess.
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On September 21 2016 04:30 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 04:28 KwarK wrote:On September 21 2016 04:25 Plansix wrote:On September 21 2016 04:22 Mohdoo wrote:On September 21 2016 04:14 Plansix wrote:
This is going to bother me, I will need to travel back in time when I get home. It wasn’t as quality as the truther who believed Trump was going to make America safe for white people.(word for word) It subtle bait that lasted over a couple months and several bans. Bans? You don't mean Testie, right? Guy I was thinking of came before him. Nah, this is before Testie graced us with his presence. I’ll dig into the past after work, because it is right on the edge of my memory. Ravianna26? To be honest, it rhymes or has strong alliteration with “Stumps for Trump”. It is why it is bothering me so much.
No one will ever be as glorious as Aeragae (or something like this) was :p
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On September 21 2016 04:40 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 04:30 Plansix wrote:On September 21 2016 04:28 KwarK wrote:On September 21 2016 04:25 Plansix wrote:On September 21 2016 04:22 Mohdoo wrote:On September 21 2016 04:14 Plansix wrote:
This is going to bother me, I will need to travel back in time when I get home. It wasn’t as quality as the truther who believed Trump was going to make America safe for white people.(word for word) It subtle bait that lasted over a couple months and several bans. Bans? You don't mean Testie, right? Guy I was thinking of came before him. Nah, this is before Testie graced us with his presence. I’ll dig into the past after work, because it is right on the edge of my memory. Ravianna26? To be honest, it rhymes or has strong alliteration with “Stumps for Trump”. It is why it is bothering me so much. You can look through the banlist to see if you can find him, I guess.
Whatisthisasheep. Don't know why it made me thing of Stump for Trump.
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On September 21 2016 04:25 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 03:44 Mohdoo wrote:
Did reality is king used to post here for a while? I feel like we've seen this exact same posting style before. Was the guy named cowboy or something? I forget. Either way, we've seen this exact same personality and posting style before. Walk into the thread replying to every liberal poster with baiting 1 liners and downright dismissing of science. Can't tell if it is a ban dodger or just s common archetype coming out of Reddit lately. Yeah let's not be reasonable and immediately go for the censorship. Please that's not how a free society should function. Every single points need to be argued and To that genetic science dude, you should've absolutely opened with that line and then you immediately went for the long wall of text subliminal insults. You could've saved A LOT of your time. You should've posted studies to prove that "No, people do not have survival instincts.". Because the basic funding principle of biology is evolutionary survival of the fittest. So if you want to argue against that, go a ahead and I would like to educated. And also thinking of ignoring Plansix because all he does is yell names.
"lol the burden is on you to prove me wrong"
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On September 21 2016 04:52 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 04:25 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 21 2016 03:44 Mohdoo wrote:
Did reality is king used to post here for a while? I feel like we've seen this exact same posting style before. Was the guy named cowboy or something? I forget. Either way, we've seen this exact same personality and posting style before. Walk into the thread replying to every liberal poster with baiting 1 liners and downright dismissing of science. Can't tell if it is a ban dodger or just s common archetype coming out of Reddit lately. Yeah let's not be reasonable and immediately go for the censorship. Please that's not how a free society should function. Every single points need to be argued and To that genetic science dude, you should've absolutely opened with that line and then you immediately went for the long wall of text subliminal insults. You could've saved A LOT of your time. You should've posted studies to prove that "No, people do not have survival instincts.". Because the basic funding principle of biology is evolutionary survival of the fittest. So if you want to argue against that, go a ahead and I would like to educated. And also thinking of ignoring Plansix because all he does is yell names. "lol the burden is on you to prove me wrong"
Absolutely correct, the first lesson in biology people learn in middle school is that we have survival instincts ingrained in our genetics.
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On September 21 2016 04:58 RealityIsKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 04:52 Doodsmack wrote:On September 21 2016 04:25 RealityIsKing wrote:On September 21 2016 03:44 Mohdoo wrote:
Did reality is king used to post here for a while? I feel like we've seen this exact same posting style before. Was the guy named cowboy or something? I forget. Either way, we've seen this exact same personality and posting style before. Walk into the thread replying to every liberal poster with baiting 1 liners and downright dismissing of science. Can't tell if it is a ban dodger or just s common archetype coming out of Reddit lately. Yeah let's not be reasonable and immediately go for the censorship. Please that's not how a free society should function. Every single points need to be argued and To that genetic science dude, you should've absolutely opened with that line and then you immediately went for the long wall of text subliminal insults. You could've saved A LOT of your time. You should've posted studies to prove that "No, people do not have survival instincts.". Because the basic funding principle of biology is evolutionary survival of the fittest. So if you want to argue against that, go a ahead and I would like to educated. And also thinking of ignoring Plansix because all he does is yell names. "lol the burden is on you to prove me wrong" Absolutely correct, the first lesson in biology people learn in middle school is that we have survival instincts ingrained in our genetics.
Congratulations, you've made it to philosophy 101 with Ayn Rand. The glorification of the elegance associated with primal instincts is not something that stands up to much analytical rigor. No one is interested in explaining the problems with using the existence of genes as moral justification. As I alluded to earlier, we've been there and done that. I imagine most of us did it early in our college education when reviewing the surface of various schools of thought.
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Damn, such logic. The old, I took a class on this once, so your PhD, masters, doctorate is invalid. It’s a wonder why the guy who worked in genetics doesn’t feel the need to argue with you.
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On September 21 2016 04:26 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2016 04:23 Jaaaaasper wrote:On September 21 2016 02:11 farvacola wrote:On September 21 2016 02:08 Jaaaaasper wrote:On September 21 2016 02:03 farvacola wrote:Here's a controversial notion from this liberal: American schools don't do nearly enough indoctrination as it is Here's another one from a liberal. American schools are a fox news teir echo chamber with only left to far left wing opinions becoming wide spread. If American colleges weren't so left wing slanted, we wouldn't have Bernie Sanders or Jill Stein even close to relevant. What evidence is this opinion based on? Most of the people who make Facebook-ish references to the liberal echo chamber on college campuses have either A) never been to college or B) had a really bad time in college because they have terrible notions. This is not to say that the academy isn't liberally biased, it definitely is, but the idea that campuses are "liberal echo chambers" ignores the likelihood that the vast majority of college graduates come out of the system never having encountered this echo chamber being posited. I mean there is a fair amount of evidence that conservative professors get a lot less slack to talk politics than liberal ones,and safe spaces are defintly a liberal notion. Plus I've made the mistake of talking politics on campus a few times. I agree with the echo chamber, I just don't like being in one Again, there is actual evidence that the banking industry pays business schools to promote the deregulation of banking as economic orthodoxy. If you want to make the case that all the professors are working together to push a single position and indoctrinate their students, well, there is evidence for that. But they're not trying to indoctrinate their students into thinking that only white people can be racist or whatever.
Its not a intentional push of ideologies tbh, its much more that most universities have more liberal professors than conservative ones, which leads to a fairly one sided discussion of politcs in classes and thus on campus as a whole. A echochamber isn't necessarily a intentionally created thing, in fact it rarely is, but that doesn't mean it isn't a problem.
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