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United States42009 Posts
On August 27 2016 09:24 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 08:44 oBlade wrote:On August 27 2016 08:21 Doodsmack wrote:Wait is Trump asking Hillary to release her health records? When he released this? ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cq0StMFWcAAUxWb.jpg:large) What's wrong this time? Sums up my growing apathy. Oh, is it another real scandal/misstep or manufactured scandal/misstep?
The alt right claim Hillary is a corpse being propped up to secure the Presidency for her New World Order Jewish backers while Trump's health statement looks like a ten year old wrote it, right down to the made up website and the gmail address.
No scandal, just another comical aspect of the ongoing Trump circus.
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Yeah I'm not saying I know whether the doctor was ethical or not, and I wouldn't say this rises to the level of "scandal". But it's part of a pattern of incompetence and sloppiness in a candidate for president of the US.
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On August 27 2016 09:23 oBlade wrote:
This should never have been an issue and we're so deep I can't even remember which side is trying to distract from the other.
Entire election in a nutshell, tbh.
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On August 27 2016 08:57 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 08:56 Gorsameth wrote:On August 27 2016 08:48 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Yeah a physical along with labs etc. doesn't take 5 minutes...several hours along with EKG etc.
edit: Hell certain labs might take a few days if sent out. No one claimed the physical took 5 minutes. The letter took 5 minutes. yeah, but the doctor makes it sound like Trump is Superman. It really sounds like something a 10 year old faked lol
reads like the note dr. guy emdee wrote for a 10 year old to get out school, if you catch my drift
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United States42009 Posts
I thought the McCain pressure was because of Palin. It wasn't just that he was old, it was more due to how incredibly unqualified his replacement was in the event of his death. If either Trump or Clinton died in office we'd probably be fine. Trump dying would probably be an improvement.
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On August 27 2016 09:24 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 08:44 oBlade wrote:On August 27 2016 08:21 Doodsmack wrote:Wait is Trump asking Hillary to release her health records? When he released this? What's wrong this time? Sums up my growing apathy. Oh, is it another real scandal/misstep or manufactured scandal/misstep?
People attacked the info released by Clinton's doctor? The 1st time this letter showed up people just laughed at the over the top language and the typos. Now that people are throwing Clinton's health into the ring along with dismissing the statements her doctors have released it is just an interesting comparison to make.
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On August 27 2016 10:18 KwarK wrote:
I thought the McCain pressure was because of Palin. It wasn't just that he was old, it was more due to how incredibly unqualified his replacement was in the event of his death. If either Trump or Clinton died in office we'd probably be fine. Trump dying would probably be an improvement.
You're saying Pence might be better than Trump? I'd agree he's a better running mate than Palin was.
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The best part of the interview with Trump's doctor was him claiming that his mental health was excellent because "his brain is turned on 24 hours a day"
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On August 27 2016 10:37 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 10:18 KwarK wrote:
I thought the McCain pressure was because of Palin. It wasn't just that he was old, it was more due to how incredibly unqualified his replacement was in the event of his death. If either Trump or Clinton died in office we'd probably be fine. Trump dying would probably be an improvement. You're saying Pence might be better than Trump? I'd agree he's a better running mate than Palin was.
Pence is probably less likely to disband NATO and demand reparations from China.
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On August 27 2016 10:37 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 10:18 KwarK wrote:
I thought the McCain pressure was because of Palin. It wasn't just that he was old, it was more due to how incredibly unqualified his replacement was in the event of his death. If either Trump or Clinton died in office we'd probably be fine. Trump dying would probably be an improvement. You're saying Pence might be better than Trump? I'd agree he's a better running mate than Palin was.
Pence is terrible, but he's basically bog standard terrible. You know all his awful ideas and you know that while you may dislike him and all of those ideas he's not actually unhinged.
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Well if you believe the whole Trump offer to Kaisch thing then you would have to think Pence would be running a lot of things anyway.
Not that I would want a guy like him appointing Supreme Court justices.
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On August 27 2016 09:31 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 09:24 Danglars wrote:On August 27 2016 08:44 oBlade wrote:On August 27 2016 08:21 Doodsmack wrote:Wait is Trump asking Hillary to release her health records? When he released this? What's wrong this time? Sums up my growing apathy. Oh, is it another real scandal/misstep or manufactured scandal/misstep? The alt right claim Hillary is a corpse being propped up to secure the Presidency for her New World Order Jewish backers while Trump's health statement looks like a ten year old wrote it, right down to the made up website and the gmail address. No scandal, just another comical aspect of the ongoing Trump circus.
Felt like McCain was discussed as being too old and frail every week during that campaign! And here we have Hillary with a blood clot, those prism glasses, concussion. In politics anything weird is practically newsworthy and she made me look up post-concussive syndrome back in the day. So if we were to imagine Trump with his age, and same issues in last four years, no release of medical records I'd say media frenzy on the topic (ok for him media frenzy is permanent, but on this topic.) I'd put that to a noninterested observer expecting some agreement to the level of "not auto conspiracy to inquire."
If she looks fine and her usual shrill self in the debates, she'll be fine not releasing a goddamn thing.
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On August 27 2016 10:37 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 10:18 KwarK wrote:
I thought the McCain pressure was because of Palin. It wasn't just that he was old, it was more due to how incredibly unqualified his replacement was in the event of his death. If either Trump or Clinton died in office we'd probably be fine. Trump dying would probably be an improvement. You're saying Pence might be better than Trump? I'd agree he's a better running mate than Palin was.
Pence is one of the three final reasons myself and other area conservatives are voting for Trump (laying aside the lesser of two evils argument.)
I half expected Pence to be more opposed since he's in the Cruz-line of values and most of the thread hates Cruz worse than Trump. I bet deep down it's the same as Tim Caine ... Pence who?
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I believe the McCain health stuff was mostly about the prostate cancer. And it was almost entirely "alt-left" manufactured rubbish that never ended up near the debate stage or tweeted (or the equivalent) by major campaigns.
Obama never said "Gee, McCain's looking awful sickly" on his twitter.
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On August 27 2016 12:40 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I believe the McCain health stuff was mostly about the prostate cancer. And it was almost entirely "alt-left" manufactured rubbish that never ended up near the debate stage or tweeted (or the equivalent) by major campaigns.
Obama never said "Gee, McCain's looking awful sickly" on his twitter.
He would've said it in a teleprompter speech with 2,000 words and starting off "I don't want to bring my opponent's health into question," to spend the next quarter hour bringing his opponent's health into question. But he has no shortage of allies to do his dirty work ^.^
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Again McCain's health was more an issue because of Palin than because of his health. I'd rather a 50% chance of McCain dying with a strong replacement than a 1% chance with Palin.
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Norway28561 Posts
On August 26 2016 11:13 xDaunt wrote:
I still haven't seen anyone actually highlight a particular opinion that Milo holds that is worthy of the hate that he receives. All that I am seeing is general impeachment and character assassination (not to say that it's not all unwarranted).
C'mon, TL liberals. Stop being lame and say something interesting.
I thought part of the problem with the PK regime was that people weren't allowed to express their opinions without being branded as assholes because of them, yet you seem not to acknowledge that people's hatred of Milo stems from his personality rather than his opinions?
I'm totally willing to debate ideas, but this to me seemed like a debate about Milo, and what I am seeing is that most of us leftists are saying that his ideas are largely irrelevant in explaining why we 'hate' him. I think this is slightly off-base - I think his offensive personality is more offensive because we also disagree with his ideas (I think Michael Moore is an absolute clown, but I'll easily admit to being 'more riled up' by someone like Milo), but the point is still that his ideas are not the reason why people refuse to engage with him. If you want to debate his specific ideas, why not provide us with examples of his ideas that are not draped in asshole-skin?
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On August 27 2016 13:54 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2016 12:40 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I believe the McCain health stuff was mostly about the prostate cancer. And it was almost entirely "alt-left" manufactured rubbish that never ended up near the debate stage or tweeted (or the equivalent) by major campaigns.
Obama never said "Gee, McCain's looking awful sickly" on his twitter. He would've said it in a teleprompter speech with 2,000 words and starting off "I don't want to bring my opponent's health into question," to spend the next quarter hour bringing his opponent's health into question. But he has no shortage of allies to do his dirty work ^.^
I don't think there's any record of him doing that ever. If you can find something to that effect I'll believe you, but I don't remember it coming up via the campaign at all.
Besides that, I'd still rather have secret pillars of the campaigns pushing stupid non-narratives than the actual campaigns themselves. At least Bush didn't bring up Swiftboat Veterans for Truth publicly.
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Even as the partisan divide on gun rights widens in the US, an overwhelming majority of both Clinton and Trump supporters say they support several of the gun control reform proposals that have failed to pass Congress over the past few years, according to a new national survey from the Pew Research Center.
Seventy-five percent of Trump supporters said they favor background checks on private gun sales and sales at gun shows, as did 90% of Clinton supporters. And 82% of Trump supporters said they also favor barring people on federal no-fly or watchlists from buying guns.
Congressional Republicans blocked both of these policies from becoming law this June, in the wake of a terror attack at an Orlando nightclub that left 49 people dead and more than 50 wounded. The attack was the deadliest mass shooting in recent American history.
The strong support for background checks among Trump supporters mirrors the findings of earlier polls, which found that strong majorities of gun owners, Republicans and self-identified National Rifle Association members support expanded background checks.
The new survey results bolster arguments by Democrats and gun control advocates that there are some additional gun laws that most Americans do support, even as the broader debate on gun control remains polarizing, and congressional Republicans refuse to advance any gun control legislation. But the findings also highlight how Democrats’ anti-gun views are out of step with Americans’ generally favorable opinion of gun ownership.
Overall, 58% of the public believes that owning a gun does more to protect gun owners from crime than it might put them at risk, the Pew survey found. But only 32% of Clinton supporters agreed with the statement. Twice as many, 65%, said gun ownership does more to “put people’s safety at risk” than it does to protect them, the survey found.
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